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Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/21/2008 8:06:56 AM   
Anarcheum


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Status: offline 		Good morning!

Anal training have occupied my thoughts alot the last couple of days and I wanted someone elses view on it. I'm sure there's plenty of topics on the subject but skimming through them has left out some things I've wanted to know.

I realise that buttplugs and dialators is probably the way to go, start small and gradually progress to wider and bigger. But..

¤ How long sessions should you start doing? An hour, a couple or more? How long is enough for your sphincter to get a good stretch and have time to adjust without putting too much stress on it too quickly.

¤ How often? Every day? Every other day? How long is "too long" to go without it? I assume that your rectum works like any other muscle in the way that if you don't stretch it or work on it it will gradually get smaller again.

¤ What other little tricks is out there? I've heard loose rumours about there being some kind of light antiseptic/numbing creams to ease penetration and make your rectum relaxe more? The reason I ask is cause I've found that I have more trouble with penetration and in/out action than plugs or just objects that sit still and stretch you.

Of course this is all subject to personal experience and preferences though I'm hoping to find some subs/slaves or even Masters/Mistresses(who I assume might peek in here) that has experience to advice what might be good or what works for them.

Thank you for your time!
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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/21/2008 8:08:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Get a copy of Jack Morin's Anal Pleasure and Health.

It has excellent information!

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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/21/2008 11:19:17 AM   
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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/21/2008 11:58:20 AM   
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Waves hello. i know what has worked for me. Starting small and working up. i have progressed in the length of time. Start with a small amount of time, and gradually increase the time spent with the plug inserted.i try to extend the time a few minutes every day.  Never go long enough for it to "hurt".  Insertion daily..(well most days) has really helped. Lots of lube, lots of it...oh and have heard..crisco works wonders..giggles. Also bear down when inserting, helps lots.


Smile bunches,

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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/21/2008 5:33:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		hmmm. crisco...never tried that....a lot cheaper than KY too.  :)..  I agree, start small..daily insertions, work your way up to larger
dildo's..."Plenty of lube"  at all times....keep moving around with the dildo inside you...making circles on a chair I've found opens up the entry....  Most important, make sure your partner knows where you are in training....  Too big..too fast, too rough,  could do damage and turn you off....

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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/21/2008 5:37:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		crisco might damage your toys and give you infections, I don't know for sure, but I wouldn't risk it. They have lube for ass play specifically it's called boy butter, I believe, or gun oil brand name. And do not use silicone based on silicone toys, it'll ruin the toy. You really need to make sure the lube will not harm the toy.

Also use a flared based dildo.  The flared base keeps it from accidently going inside the ass past the end of the toy.  There's a cream called analeez, or something like that, but I wouldn't recomend desensitizing lubes and creams because you need to be able to feel what's going on in your ass, and if you numb it all up you won't be able to feel if you're being hurt, in a serious way.

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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/21/2008 5:57:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		  You don't say what the end goal of your training is. Are you just trying to get prepared for when a mistress wants to take your cherry? Do you have a mistress who wants to prepared you to take a baseball bat? Do you just want to have fun on your own?

  If you just want to have fun, or prepare yourself for eventual anal sex, I don't think that you really need to "train" at all. Although the body isn't built to take stuff up there-it does, and it's not that big a deal. You don't need six weeks of anal bootcamp to take something the size of a regular penis or toy. If it's just for fun, or to acclaimate yourself to the sensation, start with something small. Vibrations help ease the painful sensation and make you a bit numb-plus, they're exciting!

Lube, lube, and more lube. It's really can't hurt. I strongly, strongly advise against numbing agents. For one: they numb sensations that you want to be feeling. If you accidently cause yourself damage because you can't feel it, you could have to explain it in an ER. For two: They are not intended to be inserted into your anus- they are VCR HEAD CLEANERS (at least the ones I've seen are). I don't know who decided sticking VCR head cleaner up their ass was a good idea...

  If you're just doing it for play or accustomization, there's no set regiment. If you do it every day, you'll be very used to it. If you do it once a week, you'll be used to it. If you do it monthly, you'll know the sensation and won't be freaked out when your mistress pulls out the strap-on (or you get a master). To be honest, I don't think any training is really nessecary at all. Unless you're looking to fit a baseball bat up there.

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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/21/2008 7:09:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		... J Lube.  Its the most inert lube so it won't cause stinging like some lubes and you can mix it to the thickness that you would like.  I know playing with it keeps me calm, breathing and relaxed during training.  Plus it is extremely sanitary because its primary purpose is as a powdered hand soap for veterinarians, and it is safe for human use.

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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/22/2008 10:33:42 AM   
Anarcheum


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Status: offline 		Thanks for the responses, everything more or less confirms my own thoughts. Which wasn't really the point of the post but anyway.. Haha.

I probably expressed myself abit clumsy regarding the numbing cream, since english isn't my first language the term became quite crude. It is not some kind of anastesia or something really strong we're talking about. Not needed as many have said, was mostly just curious.

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katie978; You don't need six weeks of anal bootcamp to take something the size of a regular penis or toy.

You might not katie but everyone isn't like that. There was a purpose and thought behind my questions even though it wasn't a baseball bat. A normal sized dildo pistoning in and out for example is nothing I can or been able to enjoy from scratch, and even though I've been around anal play for many years now going without any sort of stretching for some time seem to revert me back to scratch. As far as goal goes it's simply to be able to enjoy strapon-play physically not only mentally, and not bare through it with clenched teeth.

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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/22/2008 12:13:18 PM   
standardG


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ORIGINAL: corysub

hmmm. crisco...never tried that....a lot cheaper than KY too.  :)..  I agree, start small..daily insertions, work your way up to larger
dildo's..."Plenty of lube"  at all times....keep moving around with the dildo inside you...making circles on a chair I've found opens up the entry....  Most important, make sure your partner knows where you are in training....  Too big..too fast, too rough,  could do damage and turn you off....


Ok... I'm all curious now... Will this work to be penetrated by a real thick uncircumsized penis, whose owner tends to be a bit of a brut? and... Could you give me a more detailed explanation on the chair technique?  I do need to train my virgin butt...

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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/22/2008 1:16:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		dont forget the enemas before you play  my mistress loves my ass clean when she fucks me with her strapons and then she fists me that first time she slides in with her fist is amazing i must say  lots of lube  yes crisco works good  go slow and communicate with each other how it feels ..took her like 6 or 7 times for her to finally fist me ..love being fisted by her we usually do it once or twice a week .she knows my ass and prostate well  have fun mal

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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/22/2008 1:19:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		enema's are not nessisary to enjoy anal sex. It's up to personal preferance.

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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/22/2008 7:05:56 PM   
corysub


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Status: offline 		hey standardG...as far as the "chair"...it's really simple..i put the flat end of a 7" dildo on a chair and just sit on it..  It's not
a new idea...lots of people do that and it opens up the passage way.   If  it has some sort of suction created between the chair and the rubber of the dildo it's really great...

As far as an "enema" being personal preference...yep...it would be mine and about 99% of any partners I have been with...



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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/23/2008 9:40:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: corysub

hey standardG...as far as the "chair"...it's really simple..i put the flat end of a 7" dildo on a chair and just sit on it..  It's not
a new idea...lots of people do that and it opens up the passage way.   If  it has some sort of suction created between the chair and the rubber of the dildo it's really great...



Oh sheesh... I'm a complete ignorant on the issue, since my last Master was not into ass play... Funny though, now I have a vanilla boyfriend who has the kink and I need to learn 

Thanks a bunch!

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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/23/2008 9:52:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

enema's are not nessisary to enjoy anal sex. It's up to personal preferance.


Maybe not necessary, but I highly recommend an enema an hour or two before anal play.  If you do your enema too far in advance, the colon can fill up again. 

Without an enema, especially if you are using a lot of lube, you can get a disgusting, foul-smelling, frothy brown mess on your cock during ass-fucking.  And that ruins the moment for me, my cock deflates, scene over, clean-up begins.

Dan

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RE: Anal Training: time, regularity and progress? - 7/23/2008 10:57:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Viridana

Use lube and lots of it. When you've put enough lube on, put some more. Empty the freakin bottle if necessary. 


Vouch for that advice. Also, you'll think i'm crazy, Orajel if they're having alot of trouble relaxing. If the Dominant has alot of experience and knows their submissive's body really well, you'd be surprised what you can take the first time... i sure as hell was.
Progressive training is, of course, the safest and most comfortable route.

-david

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