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bipolarber -> Iraq government sides with Obama (7/21/2008 3:29:39 PM)

The big news of today is that primeminister Malaki (sp?) has officially sided with presumtive Democratic nominee, Barack Obama, over his proposed withdrawl of US forces from the region within 16 months. This pretty much leaves John "we'll stay there for 100 years" McCain in damage control mode.

Bush is setting a "time horizion" for getting out. (Sometime AFTER he's run out the clock on his presidency, of course.)

The Iraqis want us gone.

The people of the US want it to end.

Certainly the troops wouldn't mind coming home after all these years and god knows how many tours of duty...

I guess this just leaves Haliburton wanting to stay there and continue to line their pockets.





popeye1250 -> RE: Iraq government sides with Obama (7/21/2008 4:26:36 PM)

Bi Polar,...I want it to *END* too.
Everytime I go to the V.A. Hospital Hospital  in Charleston, S.C. and talk with guys who are missing limbs or are horribly burned  because my shoulders, hips or back are fucked I don't think I'm that bad off!
So,...........where do we disagree?




Thadius -> RE: Iraq government sides with Obama (7/21/2008 4:42:20 PM)

Keep up the faith... they won't be coming home.  Obama has already laid out the basics for redeploying them to Afghanistan.

quote:

From Obama's Op-Ed before he went on his concert tour.

Ending the war is essential to meeting our broader strategic goals, starting in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the Taliban is resurgent and Al Qaeda has a safe haven. Iraq is not the central front in the war on terrorism... and would redeploy our troops out of Iraq and focus on the broader security challenges that we face.

As president, I would pursue a new strategy, and begin by providing at least two additional combat brigades to support our effort in Afghanistan. We need more troops, more helicopters, better intelligence-gathering and more nonmilitary assistance to accomplish the mission there. I would not hold our military, our resources and our foreign policy hostage to a misguided desire to maintain permanent bases in Iraq.



Oh and how could anybody miss the tap dancing he did today... When asked if after seeing the successes would he still oppose the surge...

quote:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5417331&page=1 
"These kinds of hypotheticals are very difficult," he said. "Hindsight is 20/20. But I think that what I am absolutely convinced of is at that time we had to change the political debate because the view of the Bush administration at that time was one that I just disagreed with, and one that I continue to disagree with is to look narrowly at Iraq and not focus on these broader issues."


So basicly he is saying, that who cares whether it worked or not, it was more important to oppose the Bush administration, oh and we shouldn't look at the success on the ground there.  Because it is clear to anybody with half a brain that Afghanistan is much more important strategically than Iraq.  Who cares if there is a functioning young democracy in the region?

Just my thoughts,
Thadius




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