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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 8:27:32 AM

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in the original Greek .. was one of my proudest geeky moments

Oh woah... I'm not alone !

....there are times i am so envious of those with a facility for languages. My blind spot.

You and me both Philo,consider myself relatively intelligent but despite the best efforts of numerous teachers in H.S.could barely pass Spanish...a total inability to learn a foreign language..the only area in academics where I felt completely incapable of absorbing the material...

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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 10:32:20 AM

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I grew up Baptist and knew people like them...I think that's why it made such an impression on me. We had monthly services with the missionaries.

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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 10:45:47 AM

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enjoy your summer......and btw, Moby Dick was one of my least favorite books ever!

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Isn't it amazing how many 'classics' are out there that seem to be almost unreadable? lol I agree about Moby Dick. I picked up The Scarlett Letter awhile back to re-read in the winter, and wow .. impossible. lol

yep, but then some of those classics can throw a curve ball. picked up "Mrs. Dalloway" by Virginia Woolf and absolutely loved it! i certainly didn't enjoy it as much when i was younger and had to read it for school.

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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 11:05:22 AM

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yep, but then some of those classics can throw a curve ball. picked up "Mrs. Dalloway" by Virginia Woolf and absolutely loved it! i certainly didn't enjoy it as much when i was younger and had to read it for school.

Yeah, that's why I like to re-read ... sometimes they torture literature in school - I like to read it straight through and really absorb the book rather than picking it into little pieces. lol

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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 11:13:09 AM

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I couldn't agree more,it wasn' till re-reading for my own pleasure that Kafka,Dickens and even Shakespeare started to resonate....something abot being forced to I presume(though that would seem at odds with my orientation...go figure)

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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 11:27:26 AM

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if you really think about it, how many of the 'classics' were written for high school students?
most were written for adults to read who could, perhaps, understand the complex human interaction that takes place.

Shakespeare made very little sense to me, with the exception of "A Midsummer Night's Dream" (sort of), at that age. now, i love his plays and can appreciate "Hamlet" for the dark and disturbing story it is.

happy reading everyone!

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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 11:50:37 AM

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I couldn't agree more,it wasn' till re-reading for my own pleasure that Kafka,Dickens and even Shakespeare started to resonate....something abot being forced to I presume(though that would seem at odds with my orientation...go figure)

lol!

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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 12:03:25 PM

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Not sure if you have ever read any of Jacqueline Carey's series Kushiel's Legacy. The first book is Kushiel's Dart. VERY GOOD series. The heroine is an anguissette aka masochist. But she is also the equivalent of a geisha in this ficticious society. Not consisting of just alot of really good BDSM scenes, but the overall story arc is REALLY good and detailed.

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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 2:00:28 PM

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yep, but then some of those classics can throw a curve ball. picked up "Mrs. Dalloway" by Virginia Woolf and absolutely loved it! i certainly didn't enjoy it as much when i was younger and had to read it for school.

Yeah, that's why I like to re-read ... sometimes they torture literature in school - I like to read it straight through and really absorb the book rather than picking it into little pieces. lol

pipes up ... in our defense ... its chuffing impossible to "teach" the experience of a novel, or play in an hours lesson ... you ahve some hope with poetry but that is often so complex you end up having to sanitise it for the kids to understand

This is why I do the summer reading list each year.. you think its bad being taught a book that way ... imagine having to teach a book you love like that .. *shudders* .. old English Teacher's proverb ... never teach a book you love ... and never try to explain TS Eliot

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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 2:07:05 PM

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...to probably misquote Terry Pratchett, "all around her, the other pupils dissected the poets vision with inexpert tools"

.......speaking as a theatre professional, one of the problems with the way plays are taught is that they're treated as literature rather than instruction booklets. A play is only a play when it lives on stage, the script is just the starting point for a process that ends with performance......to ask students to count how many times Shakespeare uses the word 'nothing' in the first couple of scenes from King Lear does nothing for their understanding on the play, merely practises their basic arithametic.

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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 2:13:15 PM

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pipes up ... in our defense ... its chuffing impossible to "teach" the experience of a novel, or play in an hours lesson ... you ahve some hope with poetry but that is often so complex you end up having to sanitise it for the kids to understand

This is why I do the summer reading list each year.. you think its bad being taught a book that way ... imagine having to teach a book you love like that .. *shudders* .. old English Teacher's proverb ... never teach a book you love ... and never try to explain TS Eliot

Oh, ABSOLUTELY softness! :) I have nothing but the utmost respect for English teachers. I remember sitting in 9th grade and reading the Scarlett Letter aloud in class .. good Lord, I wanted to kill myself from boredom - just slide to the floor in a heap! lol . But the teacher plugged on, God bless her.

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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 3:20:42 PM

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yeah .. its cos she was getting all the high phallic references ...

we can find them anywhere ... *winks*

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RE: Summer reading list ... any suggestions - 7/24/2008 4:42:52 PM

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yep, but then some of those classics can throw a curve ball. picked up "Mrs. Dalloway" by Virginia Woolf and absolutely loved it! i certainly didn't enjoy it as much when i was younger and had to read it for school.

Yeah, that's why I like to re-read ... sometimes they torture literature in school - I like to read it straight through and really absorb the book rather than picking it into little pieces. lol

pipes up ... in our defense ... its chuffing impossible to "teach" the experience of a novel, or play in an hours lesson ... you ahve some hope with poetry but that is often so complex you end up having to sanitise it for the kids to understand

This is why I do the summer reading list each year.. you think its bad being taught a book that way ... imagine having to teach a book you love like that .. *shudders* .. old English Teacher's proverb ... never teach a book you love ... and never try to explain TS Eliot

i completely agree with you.
the "sanitizing" part has to be the most difficult.
funny moment while studying "A Midsummer Night's Dream" with an 8th grader this year.....when the teacher came to the line "methinks i was enamored of an ass" the teacher had to change it to change ass to donkey because parents had complained. the student said to her " that doesn't make sense...he was an ass and he acted like an ass. that's what was meant". it was frustrating for the student as well as the teacher.

respect to the teachers who have to do this......don't worry, some of the students understand just how frustrating it is.

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