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Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 7:07:53 AM   
LINY


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Status: offline 		Hearing this meaning in RT and in chatrooms,
1)what does it mean in BDSM?
2)what makes a person qualification to be called"Life Coach"?
3)would a Ex-Master, Mistress be consider?
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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 7:57:39 AM   
LordODiscipline


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Status: offline 		I have honestly never heard this expression used....

Sounds like someone is assuming a new mantle in the world of pervs.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 8:20:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		The ones I know about are certified by some credits per year, by shakey institutions of dubious reputation located in an office with virtual guest lecturers.

I think a few glib cliches to handout, a pretense of deep-thought, an overwhelming desire to be generally perky and to dress for sucess is all that is really needed. Probably wouldn't hurt to have a copy of Doc Phil or Tony Robbins for the insightful quick fixes that are too complex to handle without consultation.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 8:24:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		The first time I heard of "Life Coach" was on the tv show Nip/Tuck. Someone to help you muddle through your life, I guess. Sometimes we need a little help. I wonder if Life Coach is less expensive than Therapist?



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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 8:39:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
The ones I know about are certified by some credits per year, by shakey institutions of dubious reputation located in an office with virtual guest lecturers.

I think a few glib cliches to handout, a pretense of deep-thought, an overwhelming desire to be generally perky and to dress for sucess is all that is really needed. Probably wouldn't hurt to have a copy of Doc Phil or Tony Robbins for the insightful quick fixes that are too complex to handle without consultation.

Ron

Now, son, don't be discouraged you never knew this, your learning is a step in a new direction, a leaf floating on a river, a beginning to a journey to an unknown end. Cherish this thought and make it a guiding principle.

Thus endeth the lesson.

Please send your good check or money order to:

Life is for Living Coaching Systems, LLC.
Suite 1
Glourious, ND 00000
"Remember; if I am not part of the problem, I am the ultimate solution."

the check's in the mail, and i've bought every book "dr." phil has written (so what's with this thing about him not really being a doctor with any formal psych training? was he a scientologist, too? and who is tony robbins--any relation to tom robbins, or shall i have to find another roadside attraction at which to inquire if cowgirls truly get the blues?), so i think i'm good to go. i loved the leaf analogy, that alone was worth the fee! i wish everyone well.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 10:25:28 AM   
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what makes a person qualification to be called"Life Coach"?



I would have to say it would need to be someone with a LIFE.
After all if one did not have a LIFE....how could one coach another through it?
Now....as to where to get a LIFE should you desire to become a LIFE COACH?
Rumor has it that Wal-Mart has them on sale until Sunday....But be careful, i have
heard that they were assembled across the boarder by underage workers.



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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 10:54:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I actually have an online friend from a weightlifting site who has a business doing this. Her life coaching is mainly geared towards fitness, but she also gets into motivation, happiness, substance abuse, etc. I've never brought up the subject of D/s to her, but who knows, maybe she will throw some of that in, too, if the price is right. Know what she did before she got this gig? She was a circus performer. So you thought Dr. Phil not having real credentials meant something.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 11:58:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

The ones I know about are certified by some credits per year, by shakey institutions of dubious reputation located in an office with virtual guest lecturers.

I think a few glib cliches to handout, a pretense of deep-thought, an overwhelming desire to be generally perky and to dress for sucess is all that is really needed. Probably wouldn't hurt to have a copy of Doc Phil or Tony Robbins for the insightful quick fixes that are too complex to handle without consultation.



Spot on.

Except you forgot the Reiki certification.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 12:12:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would love to talk to her, if her fees are not too high, you see I feel that I have been a little lax on my substance abuse, and I feel I would be much happier if it was a bigger part of my life than it is.

LOL.

But I will also say, that those who are strictly life-coaching in this very narrow fashion, with proof of attained goals and so on, those are real and good people.

But I don't think the Women are from Mars, Men are from Venus should be hepping you to his wisdom about marraige and relationships, given his circumstance I think Mickey Rooney or Liz Taylor would offer more long term sustainability.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 12:21:30 PM   
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quote:

Hearing this meaning in RT and in chatrooms,
1)what does it mean in BDSM?
2)what makes a person qualification to be called"Life Coach"?
3)would a Ex-Master, Mistress be consider?


Hmmm. Why is a 'life coach' to be scorned when in business and competitive sports having a 'mentor' is often the difference between success and failure (assuming that the business person wants to go up the ladder and the sports person wants to win competitively)? Does a master take on this role for their submissive? I would hope. Would I pay someone an hourly rate to provide this service to me? No. I can't say someone else might not benefit from it.

Are there going to be practictioners that are dubious? The majority, but there is a large percentage of real (medical) doctors I don't trust either.

btw I once went on a foo-foo girly retreat to a 'spa' (because that's the kind of girl I was with 15 years ago; never again :-) I went to 3 things, massage, yoga and reiki. I was
-flying- after coming out of reiki (and no I don't do drugs). Massage and yoga were mere experiences. I was astounded that the reiki did anything at all (I was thinking what a lot of hogwash, I can go to the session and tell everyone what a croc it is because it doesn't do anything). There was no touch and hardly any conversation during the session (so I'm ruling out hypnosis). There are probably a lot of reiki practictioners that are coasting along on the certification that do nothing for their clients.

Open mind or closed mind (and I'm not talking mysticism here, I am talking scientific method ;-)

D (owner of j)


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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 1:18:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wolfie, you know I had a superficial brush with Reiki, too, one time. I'm a skeptic, also, but I have to tell you that the experience left me thinking about the whole thing for a long time.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 1:56:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		A good friend of mine works as a life coach now. She has nearly thirty years' experience working in the field of psychotherapy, with the credentials to back it up.

While making this career change (from therapist to life coach) she found that many coaches are purely in it for the quick-fix cash, which is very off putting. Essentially, her definition of a life coach is a person who helps you through a particular problem area, and gets you on the right track, providing encouragement and new techniques for improving your personal situation. A good example would be a couple who is planning to marry and blend families----she would help them with parenting techniques, etc.

A therapist would try to find out what the person's core issues are, what started them, etc. Therapy is an open-ended process, while life-coaching is not.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 2:31:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		A TV show with a bunch of women. I think its all sillly.
we need life coachs now? make a mistake learn from it move on and try it another way next time.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 3:19:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I use the term "Life Coach" in my counselling practice as part of the courses I periodically run. Under my definitation, The Life Coach is coaching a person to learn life skills and mentoring them for a predetermined period. This is different to other skill courses such as marketing skill or dealing with low self esteme.


Edited to add: You can all put up with my typos today, I'm in a shit load of pain but hey aint Morphine Sulphate a wonderfull thing.......

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 4:09:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have been using a life couch for about 7 years. It is easy to dismiss and attempt to negate something you don’t understand, nor taken the time to research before forming an opinion. In my case, I was having a discussion with the founder of the company I worked for about assuming his role. During this conversation I expressed not wanting to compromise some things I hold important in order to take the job.

He asked me if I would meet him that afternoon for lunch. When I arrived at the restaurant I was introduced to a guest he had with him. To make a long story short this man was the founder’s life couch and also became mine. Over the years we have formed an alliance that allows me to be highly effective in my career, which allows me to the financial freedom to not ever compromise and allows me to better understand my interpersonal relationships.

Life is nothing but a series of choices. Sometimes a third party can help us make decisions that keep our career choices, moral values, financial desires and personal relationships in balance while remaining highly effective in all areas. We meet every 4-6 weeks and do a reality check to see if what I say I want and who I am is really the way things are going.

Or, we could just make mistakes (big and small), learn from them and keep on truckin. I would rather not make them to begin with if possible. But that is just me…..

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 4:20:12 PM   
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which allows me to the financial freedom to not ever compromise and allows me to better understand my interpersonal relationships.


This person advises you financially? Yeah, buddy.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 4:36:39 PM   
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This person advises you financially? Yeah, buddy.


He has a degree in economics as well as a law degree. He doesn't advise in particular investments, I have a broker to make those recommendations. What he does do is pose the question 'does this help you realize the freedom you want?' Since I began my net worth has grown from not knowing if I would ever retire, to now beginning the search for where I want to live in 2-3 years when I leave the work force.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 5:28:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Life Coach sounds like another word for Guru to me...just more politically correct *grin*..not saying this is a good or bad thing..we so get off on words huh *grin*

Seriously tho, there are always gonna be people wiser and more experienced than ourselves in different areas of our lives...thats kewl huh..if we have the ability to learn.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 6:01:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am a life coach, although I have no special "certification"

I have experiences in psychology, sociology, development (both physical and mental, and yes, that is important for the age gourp that I work with).

I can work with adults, but I prefer young adults (6th grade through high school). I help them decide what they want to do and how to get there. It's enjoyable and I love to see their pride when they reach their goals and set higher ones.

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RE: Define"Life Coach" syndrome - 11/15/2005 6:07:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lets look at this from another perspective. You have coaches for footlab, base ball and basket ball. You all know what these coaches do and how they opperate. As a professional counsellor, part of my task is to get together with clients and with their input and agreement help to design a Game Plan with the end goal being the resolution in an agreeable and positive way of the problem/s which they have asked for counselling for. Once the game plan is in place (allowing for it to be flexable to deal with changing situations) my job is not to micro manage the client but to encourage him or her and in fact coach him or her alonmg the way and to help him or her remain focused using a number of stratagies. This is in fact a micro version of Life Coaching. The skills learned during the resoltion of specific problems may be adapted to deal with other areas and certainly similar situations. There are many people who just dont have all the skills or even experience to deal with the shyt that life dishes up. There are numerous reasons for this but it boil;d down to the fact that if these people want help to deal with situations and more importantly, to learn not just to cope but to meet the world head on and increase their standard of life, they probably need some coaching and a game plan. When i ah workibng in this area, I try to put together a coaching team which will include a financial managemant person, a health management person, a legal advisor and if we are doing a one on one or a program for a specific ethnic group the team will include people who are recognised and respected in their culture and religious areas. Such programs can be done as a series of public seminars or as individual programs (my individual ones are pro bono with the help of some really good and big hearted people). Niot all programs are inexpensive but there are good programs for even those who have limited finances. Every multi-millionare I know personally, has at one stage had a Life Coach. They knew the value of having competenmt help in areas of which they were not hands on.

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