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role reversed - 11/16/2005 10:41:14 PM

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hi i have this fantasy that id like to reverse the role were the women penetrates me with her toy, is there any guys who have experienced this and wot wud be a womens view on it if a guy brought up the subject?

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RE: role reversed - 11/16/2005 10:44:18 PM

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Not my scene personally, however I have helped a Mistress to do this by restraining her submissive husband and watched as they both asked me to.

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RE: role reversed - 11/16/2005 10:54:33 PM

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I'm not into that but it seems like it should be the same as any other subject; communication is the key. If it's important to you then bring it up. If she wants a relationship then she should be willing to listen and discuss it. 'Nuff said.

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RE: role reversed - 11/17/2005 12:08:15 AM

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wot wud be a womens view on it if a guy brought up the subject?

I think it is a fairly common fantasy and if my partner brought it up as a fantasy that they had, well i would fulfill that fantasy for them.

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RE: role reversed - 11/17/2005 4:03:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: smb3480

hi i have this fantasy that id like to reverse the role were the women penetrates me with her toy, is there any guys who have experienced this and wot wud be a womens view on it if a guy brought up the subject?

let me break out my big 10 inch-----------

sir must be able to have the option if he wants to watch

or give permissions...........but i have no problem w/ it. i'm quite good at it actually

< Message edited by fyreredsub -- 11/17/2005 4:05:34 AM >

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RE: role reversed - 11/17/2005 4:06:28 AM

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I hate the term "role reversal" when it comes to a Femdom/malesub relationship. To me, it implies that it's "natural" for the male to be dominant in a relationship rather than the female.

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RE: role reversed - 11/17/2005 6:58:59 AM

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I hate the term "role reversal" when it comes to a Femdom/malesub relationship. To me, it implies that it's "natural" for the male to be dominant in a relationship rather than the female.

I dislike it too but I think (as a historian) it reflections a cultural situation for centuries and centuries and that such a long history cannot be easily brushed aside.

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RE: role reversed - 11/17/2005 7:05:14 AM

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I dislike it too but I think (as a historian) it reflections a cultural situation for centuries and centuries and that such a long history cannot be easily brushed aside.

I see both Sonnets and your perspectives, however I just took "role reversal" to mean that almost universally the female is penetrated by the male (which is true), not that the role reversal was dominant vs submissive.

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RE: role reversed - 11/17/2005 10:09:20 AM

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i have in the past had women penetrate me with there finger during intercourse which i found a huge turn on.

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RE: role reversed - 11/17/2005 10:49:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: thetammyj
I dislike it too but I think (as a historian) it reflections a cultural situation for centuries and centuries and that such a long history cannot be easily brushed aside.

I see both Sonnets and your perspectives, however I just took "role reversal" to mean that almost universally the female is penetrated by the male (which is true), not that the role reversal was dominant vs submissive.

And reproductively almost necessary (though technology has changed this). I see that as more biology though, not role -- my radical feminist definitions of terms showing I suspect.

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RE: role reversed - 11/17/2005 2:40:30 PM

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I hate the term "role reversal" when it comes to a Femdom/malesub relationship. To me, it implies that it's "natural" for the male to be dominant in a relationship rather than the female.

But MsSonnet, we all KNOW that's the natural order of things. Don't we? (evil fucking grin)

Before any jumps on me, I've known MsSonnet for years. I'm just yanking her chain because, well, she's jerked mine enough times. Hell, I left her alone with my slave more than once, so I guess I know her well enough to tease her on here.

Seriously, I do believe there are differences between man and women, and some of those differences do lie in areas of men being more likely to be competitive, aggressive, and inclined to want to dominate others. But these are generalities at best, and individuals rarely fit into the mold we try to create with averages and stereotypes.

Also, everything here is relative. Even if the average giraffe is taller than the average elephant, that doesn't mean some elephants won't be taller than some giraffes. Human beings are even more complex than elephants and giraffes, so we don't just have biology to consider. We are also affected by culture, environment, and personal experience. And let's not forget the wonderful world of psychology.

No, I don't think men and women are "equal." People are far too complex for a blanket statement such as that.

Yes, I do think they're entitled to equal protection and equal rights under the law.

And equal pay, as long as the slave hands her paycheck to her Master at the end of the week. (wink)

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RE: role reversed - 11/17/2005 5:57:27 PM

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hi i have this fantasy that id like to reverse the role were the women penetrates me with her toy, is there any guys who have experienced this and wot wud be a womens view on it if a guy brought up the subject?

Like Ironbear, not my thing but it's not at all uncommon. Guys just don't talk about it in the vanilla world because "it means you're gay!". I've found most women are at least amenable to playing with a finger in the ass, so that might be the easiest way to start and then just respond well and suggest "more".

I should note that one of my vanilla friends asked his EXTREMELY vanilla and conservative southern wife about this, and much to the surprise of everyone she happily accepted and last time anyone mentioned it was practically a daily occurrence.

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RE: role reversed - 11/17/2005 9:02:58 PM

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I don't really see this as anything more than a form of kinky sex. I know more than f few vanilla women who's major fantasy is to watch their men either being screwed annally by another guy or by a woman with a strap on. I don't know how many actually want to be the one wearing the strapon but I have an idea it may be some sort of balancing the books for being taken at their partners will (well almost) with annal sex.

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RE: role reversed - 11/18/2005 12:33:27 AM

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hi i have this fantasy that id like to reverse the role were the women penetrates me with her toy, is there any guys who have experienced this and wot wud be a womens view on it if a guy brought up the subject?

It's not terribly uncommon as has been said, and what would help you is if you found a lady who already expresses enjoying that activity, since some women/dominas don't.
If it is a compelling desire for you, you should talk to your lady, as honest communication is the best way to get your needs/wants met, especially if you are in a relationship with one who is not averse to most things. M

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