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TieNTeas -> Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/1/2008 8:21:00 PM)

From http://www.t-g.com/story/1449487.html

Workers at Tyson Foods' poultry processing plant in Shelbyville will no longer have a paid day off on Labor Day, but will instead take the Muslim holiday of Eid al-Fitr in the fall.

A recent press release from the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union (RWDSU) stated that a new contract at the Shelbyville facility "implements a new holiday to accommodate the ... Muslim workers at the plant."
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An American union giving up an American holiday dedicated to the American worker.  What next?



hisannabelle -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/1/2008 9:10:46 PM)

-fr-

if the union is happy with it, they're the ones making the decisions. according to the article, it's questionable as to whether the plant is staffed by a majority of muslims, but the union can ask for whatever holidays they want. i know where my previous dominant lives, there is a huge population of somali muslims that work in the factories there (nearly the only non-southern baptists), so it would make sense in that factory. whether it makes sense in this one is up to the company and the union, and this is what they've chosen to push for. since eid IS so important to a large number of their workers (and isn't too far off now! yay!), to me it's no worse than having christmas day off (which is offered as well), although i think it would be neat to keep labor day and then let workers choose to use their extra day for eid or christmas. that way the factory isn't losing an entire day of work, and is still keeping with public holidays as well as providing religious accomodation.

that said, i don't know what it's like to have a holiday other than christmas off, and sometimes not that. so...i've never really thought about even having that option.

a'ishah.



hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/1/2008 9:17:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TieNTeas
An American union giving up an American holiday dedicated to the American worker.  What next?


Get  used to kowtowing towards the East, and buy your wife a headscarf - that's what's coming next.



hisannabelle -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/1/2008 9:21:10 PM)

may i recommend http://hijabgirl.com/ ? great quality, low prices, and they even sell comfy niqabs for those who get that insatiable urge to be oppressed :)



hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/1/2008 9:29:26 PM)

While it's amusing in an odd sort of way - it's the same way that a fatal carcrash on the highway is fascinating and sometimes morbidly amusing....
 
if I want oppression - I'll go back to considering "power exchange" relationships.



TheHeretic -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/1/2008 9:34:59 PM)

        Well, I'd don't think "Farter," or whatever it is, automatically comes with a three-day weekend, but I'm tolerant enough to be flexible about when I grill pork, and drink lots of alcohol with friends.



Gwynvyd -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/2/2008 6:14:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: hisannabelle

may i recommend http://hijabgirl.com/ ? great quality, low prices, and they even sell comfy niqabs for those who get that insatiable urge to be oppressed :)



I think I love you now.

Perfect response.

Xenophobic people just bug the ever living crap out of me.

I am Cherrokee, and I feel like saying to them, "That is not a native language you are speaking.. kindly get off my land.. oh yeah.. we are supposed to share arn't we? So get over yourselves."

Ignorance breeds fear.

Gwyn,
sick unto death of her Muslim cousins getting the short end of the stick.
( for those who do not know.. I am Hindu ~ minus the crappy caste stuff)



Evility -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/2/2008 10:00:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TieNTeas
Workers at Tyson Foods' poultry processing plant in Shelbyville will no longer have a paid day off on Labor Day.


It only applies to union members according to the article. Our contract applies to all employees who are eligible to be union members whether they are union members or not - so we'd all have those holiday selections. That's gonna be a scheduling bitch on those two days depending on how the union/non-union employee breakdown occurs.

In my previous job they took away our one optional holiday that we could choose individually for ourselves to give us MLK Day. That did not sit well with much of the rank and file. I don't think there was any anti-MLK sentiment but the decision to give us a day off in the middle of January after we had just had a holiday break really chapped a lot of asses - mine included. My current employer offers six standard holidays and 4 optional holidays. I prefer this much more. I take them all together as another (almost complete) week of vacation.





xBullx -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/2/2008 2:57:16 PM)

Wow........let's evaluate the irony in this article...

I am not certain, but I know we used to like to throw our pork MRE's to the Arabs because they didn't eat pork.

Tyson has pork plants, I wonder if these plants with also celebrate this holiday? If not that seems rather hypocritical or discriminatory. Perhaps they better just give both holidays as paid vactions to be fair. Damn do any others out their have holidays we could press to get paid for?  Europe has thousands of Holidays, let's take those off with pay too.



thornhappy -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/2/2008 2:59:40 PM)

I'm wondering if someone spoofed the paper.  It's not in any news releases for either Tyson or the union.  The Islamic workers were a minority at the plant; it doesn't seem like there would be enough of a majority for the holiday.

The comments in the paper are fairly obnoxious.

thornhappy



slaveboyforyou -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/2/2008 3:06:33 PM)

Well I live in the home state of Tyson, and I haven't seen too many Muslims working at their plants.  It's mostly hispanics; the county north of mine has one of the largest Nicaugran populations in the country.  It's a rural county, and there isn't anything there but chicken farms owned by Tyson. 



hisannabelle -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/2/2008 3:10:20 PM)

-fr-

as far as pork plants go, the only plant in question it seems (according to the article) is a poultry processing plant.

i've personally worked in restaurants that serve pork when i really needed the money, and there are plenty of different opinions on taking jobs that involve contact with non-zabiha meat, whether it's just not slaughtered halal or it IS pork, or with jobs in places that serve or use alcohol. so it's not out of the question that muslims might be working at a pork plant. but the one in question is a poultry processing plant, so it's unrelated.

eta: somalis were a minority, but muslim workers in general made up 700 of the 1200 people employed at the plant according to the article, so they were (by a small margin) the majority. the question of whether they are a majority in the union is still up, though, but it's up to the union what they choose to push for. still, i do think it would make more sense to allow people to choose to have eid or christmas off and keep labor day.

and thornhappy...i can't find anything else about it either, except equally obnoxious blog posts. i didn't even think of it being a spoof before but now i'm wondering.



Alumbrado -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/2/2008 3:34:21 PM)

http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search;_ylt=A0WTTksm4JRIOSUALx6y87UF;_ylu=X3oDMTBhNjRqazhxBHNlYwNzZWFyY2g-?fr=sfp&ei=UTF-8&p=tyson+muslim+holiday




TribeTziyon -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/2/2008 4:40:58 PM)

Hey, if its a day off or bonus pay.....



thornhappy -> RE: Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Eid al-Fitr (8/2/2008 5:23:04 PM)

(quick reply)

I wuz wrong, it's looking legit.  What's kind of depressing is seeing most of the comments, whether they're from the newspaper or the TV stations covering the story. 

thornhappy



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