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Just a dom? - 8/1/2008 10:27:51 PM

chenDawg

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Since there really isn't a section of the forums for it..
Do any of you consider yourselves to be just doms instead of Masters?

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/1/2008 10:36:18 PM

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Good question chenDawg. I am one who does, however, I feel it fair to warn you that some don't consider Me a Dom because I have no sub at my feet this moment.

I feel 'Master' is something that is reserved for those who practice Gorean or close to Gorean philosophies. Where the Master owns the slave.

I feel I have much more to learn about life before I even would consider myself a 'Master'. And even then, I would question if I would be up to that task of owning someone fully.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/1/2008 11:16:41 PM

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Naw,we need an "ask a pervert" forum.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/1/2008 11:25:34 PM

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Naw,we need an "ask a pervert" forum.

Mmm, yes indeed. "ask a pervert with ambitions" forum. *chuckles*

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/1/2008 11:27:46 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirWAX

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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

Naw,we need an "ask a pervert" forum.

Mmm, yes indeed. "ask a pervert with ambitions" forum. *chuckles*

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 1:34:45 AM

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There is no "just" to being a Dominant. Masters are not somehow magically higher in rank or worthiness.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 2:19:53 AM

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*fr*

Indeed, I agree with You Master Fire. Here is something that someone wiser than I said to me recently for the three definitions, as they are not "rankings", but more to do with what you do in regards to the type of relationship to whom you share:

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Master, Dom, Top... I can be all three at the same time, just not to the same girl.

I Own "her", mind, body and soul, she is My possession, she has no rights other than what I choose to allow her except the one choice to remove consent and walk away. she is My responsibility, her well being is entirely in My hands. she is My slave, I am her Master.

With a playpartner, I have authority over a part of the whole but there are areas I can't touch even should I wish to or see a need to. There are parts of herself that will never be Mine. Whether the authority is only a little or most of her it is not ALL of her. she is My sub, I am her Dominant.

If I meet some playbunny in a club and she requests a caning... I don't much know her, definitely have no authority over her, she co-operates for the scene which We mutually enjoy. she is bottom to My Top.

This resonates very much to how I see it too, though some definitions may vary from person to person, this seems to be a common consensus. I hope this helps you chenDawg and others.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 2:23:41 AM

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 2:41:44 AM

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Top enjoys playbunny so much he gets her phone number and they begin to date. That goes so well their relationship transitions into Dom/sub. After a few months/years this develops into Master/slave.

You can be top, dom, and master to one girl, just not all at the same time...and it's going to take longer than one night.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 2:50:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: chenDawg

Since there really isn't a section of the forums for it..
Do any of you consider yourselves to be just doms instead of Masters?

Well, yes - anytime I'm unattached I'm a "mere" Dom.... lol Dom is like "man" (I'm always that) whereas to call myself a 'Master' (or husband, for eg) requires a committment and the validation of a second party to be true.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 7:13:32 AM

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I consider the term Master appropriate to people that dominate slaves.
I always felt Master-Slave are a paired set of terms. So to my mind, the question is, are you looking for a slave, a bottom, a masochist, or a submissive?

But that gets a bit weird because people argue about what those terms means. In the end, I think you call yourself a Master if you think the word Master is in someone way 'stronger' or more dominant than Dominant.

People tend to be a bit too obsessed with words and categories. Like I said before:

I'm just the guy my sub obeys.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 7:50:57 AM

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I personally do not believe that there is such a thing as a Master. You are either a dominant person or a submissive person. Period. That you have learned and risen to the point of having the title Master bestowed upon you is nonsense. My submissive sometimes refers to me as Master - but it is more a term of endearment or a title just between us.

Just my opinion.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 7:52:16 AM

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Words mean very little to me, actions-much.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 8:55:13 AM

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There is no "just" to being a Dominant. Masters are not somehow magically higher in rank or worthiness.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 9:02:36 AM

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Master, Dom, Top... I can be all three at the same time, just not to the same girl.

She will do anything I ask knowing that I would never actually ask anything that would cause her to break a sweat. She gives everything to me but has nothing worth giving, dogs are more independent than she is. There are people attending their first Al-Anon meeting who are less co-dependent than we are. I am her Master.

I don't negotiate, you want to play with me, you better know what the fuck you are doing. I play at a level few dare approach, I can fuck with your mind in ways you have never before experienced. I will tear you down into nothingness and leave you a crying bleeding lump at the end of a scene. Later you and I can split a pint, shake hands and be equals. You are bottom to My Top.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 10:07:23 AM

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I agree with what both Focus and Evility stated.

For me, I call him Master because he asked what I would like to call him. I felt it fit and it is a term of endearment and a validation of Our commitment to each other and how we define the terms Master/slave to our commitment/relationship.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 10:25:55 AM

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All Masters are Dominant. but not all Dominants are Masters if that helps........ When I get into a TPE. I first start as a friend. then if all goes well. I will be your Top....... Leading to if all goes well being your Dom........ After awhile of learning each other then and only then could I be a Master to you.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 10:33:55 AM

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It is because of this debate that I have labled myself a Zooble and Cuffkinks is the only Other Zooble in Existence. They are the Highest Form of Dominant, they are above all other Dominants and cannot be defeated, unless you have a +3 Throwing Dagger and a Bag of Plenty.

Then we can Trade Titles for the Bag of Plenty and the Dagger, But know that the title is enchanted and will make you a dark elf with a Chrasima of 1 and you lose light foot.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 11:12:55 AM

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Actually, zoobles are a recent phenomonon. I trace my origins back the most ancient bdsm house in Europe and it can trace its origins back far enough to be lost in the mysts of time before the Greeks. Our training as dominants begins in the womb as we are required to learn so much, no time can be wasted.

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RE: Just a dom? - 8/2/2008 4:48:30 PM

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