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http://www.befreetech.com/techpage.htm
Don't even read the whole thing. Those who remember the "Can't be done" thread might like to have a look. I had an in depth conversation last night with the guy who told me about that machine, the generator that apparently runs on nothing. I analysed everything he said, and shot him down a couple of times with "You can't say that, you couldn't possibly know that". In a way I set him straight, even though he is the one involved in building the things.
However he does not have the scientific knowledge, and being a reasonable Man accepted what I said. We moved forward. I had been thinking about how this might be accomplished since I heard about it.
Well I figured it out, not how to do it exactly, but the principle involved. What they have is a bunch of strong permanent magnets either on the stator or the rotor, and have found a way to effectively control the naturally produced magnetism, or in a sense rectify it. In other words the force that would impel motion is allowed and that which would inhibit it (which are why it is deemed impossible) is somehow blocked or diverted.
It is not free energy nor anything magical at all, it is simply a new technology. When you have seen the shit I have seen at work, you keep an open mind. The first part of that webpage cited at the top says it in another way, "finessed". But I described it to him before I saw the page. That is the ONLY way to accomplish what they claim.
The link at the top was produced by a Google search for "hummingbird motor" and was performed at his behest. This morning the page is still there minmized so I decide to read it. It seems they do get into some fluff, about Tesla and all that.
The reason I call it fluff is because transmitting power through the air is not all that practical, because if it is not visible I think people would be harmed by getting in it's way. So that much I don't care about. Maybe it can be done, but should it ? What would we have to build bridges over these airborne "power conduits" ? It could be useful in remote areas, out in the desert and such, but for everyday people I just don't see it as something that would work.
But the site states that a hummingbird motor was tested in 1999 in front of a bunch of witnesses and produced five times it's input power in horsepower. There is only one natural force other than gravity that can do that - magnetism.
Force is power if it induces motion. Regular motors do it every day, from the starter motor in your car to the compressor in your refigerator. But that magnetism is produced by electricity. Well if you find a way to somehow modulate the magnetism produced by permanent magnets, why wouldn't you be able to do the same thing ? Induce motion.
I must admit that now that I know more about it I am more intrigued than ever, and as our discussion progressed I found that these were prototypes and kinda hillbillied together. We discussed some of the problems they are having in the newer and larger unit they are currently building. I might have given the guy an idea, because I know machining somewhat and maybe a thing or three, after the problem was described to me in detail, I reasoned that they were welding something that should be bolted down instead because it is impossible to get a perfect weld. He is going to tell Chuck about that today I think.
But that site claims that Alexander Graham Bell was arrested for selling telephones. Like a grifter or a con-man. They provide a link to an article about it. I also went to wiki and took a look at what they have in the way of a bio. As is the case with many US inventors, I found that he emmigrated here from another country, in Bell's case it was Scotland.
You know I am into the other side of the story, so I will say this. If he was selling phones on the streetcorner, and there were no phone wires, he was indeed selling something the people could not use------yet. Now is THAT fraud ?
What would someone do with a telephone without wires going to the house ? Set it on top of their radio ? Wait, there were no radios, I might as well said plasma TV.
Yup, Bell's work was required even before Marconi or whoever came along and said you can transmit voice over the air without wires. I'm sure everyone said he was full of shit as well. But think about that when you talk on your cellphone. All these people were full of shit but it works.
So here is where I'm at. I really hope these generators work. I have now seen pictures, and I see things. They use belts and pulleys and whatever. The guy, Chuck, apparently is not familiar with certain aspects of modern machine building. Forget belts and pulleys, use planetary gears and stuff like that. How do you think they built the transmission in your Lexus ?
My optimism is self based. By that I mean I hope it works, and I told the guy last night to hook me up, because I do have something to add. They are doing it, but doing it wrong. That might be OK for the prototypes, but to be commecially viable the thing has to be reliable. If this can be made to work as they say, it would put every energy company on their butt in notime at all.
Electric cars would sell like hotcakes, charging them would be basically free, once the generator is paid for. Foreign oil would be a thing of the past and those who couldn't afford to switch over would have lower energy costs, because of reduced demand.
There might be a time when investors will shun oil futures, saying something like "I would rather invest in dog shit". Electric companies would have alot fewer customers, and if electricity is basically free, keep your natural gas too.
But free is not the word, what would one of these things cost ? You would have to figure out what you pay for electric, and there would be a cost to convert to all electric. An electric car is not cheap right now, but then demand is not supporting mass production. That could change.
I am still skeptical about the whole thing, but I am optimistic because of what it would mean to the human race.
T
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