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ORIGINAL: ProtagonistLily


I gotta agree with Lucky Albatross on this one.

I stopped thinking about whether I was going to be viewed as 'submissive' enough a long time ago. Really, the same rules of vanilla dating really apply here: Be yourself.

There was a girl once who tried to stuff all her personality, bite her tongue and try to be attractive to the Doms by showing how submissive she was. It didn't work for her because it was her personality, wit, charm, and even sometimes her indignation that made her stand out as interesting. Let me tell you, that was the hardest 5 minutes of my entire life ~grin~.

If you posture for the "Doms" what happens when you can't stuff your personality anymore and the real you comes out? You end up with a weird "Jeckle and Hyde" thing and no one wants that.

Just be who you are. You can be vivacious and full of personality AND still be polite and work within the social structure of WIIWD.

There's a Jack for every Jill. Just be yourself and find each other.

Lily

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ORIGINAL: girl4you2

to be submissive doesn't erase all traces of an intelligent, thoughtful, insightful, and conversant person. if it did, all submissives would have iq's of 6. done respectfully, you should hold onto you, else you will lose the person whom he was attracted to in the first place, and find yourself perhaps lost or worse, resentful at what you've become. we are not in this life to change people massively, we adjust to each other and learn to hear varying viewpoints. automatrons we are not...yet. we are all humans, dominants and submissives/slaves, and we fell, think, and respond to our environment. sad will be the day when we just act with no thought or caring for another human or the world.

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ORIGINAL: fastlane

Sarah
In a word "NO"
To be submissive to your Master is a gift to you both, to be independent and not a jellyfish, is even better.
There comes a difference when and if you top from the bottom, but that is a different category all together.
Speak your mind, stand up for what you want and know you can still submit to the right Master, who respects your strength and independence.

K? Peace, Kevin

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ORIGINAL: girl4you2

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ORIGINAL: girl4you2

to be submissive doesn't erase all traces of an intelligent, thoughtful, insightful, and conversant person. if it did, all submissives would have iq's of 6. done respectfully, you should hold onto you, else you will lose the person whom he was attracted to in the first place, and find yourself perhaps lost or worse, resentful at what you've become. we are not in this life to change people massively, we adjust to each other and learn to hear varying viewpoints. automatrons we are not...yet. we are all humans, dominants and submissives/slaves, and we fell, think, and respond to our environment. sad will be the day when we just act with no thought or caring for another human or the world.

of course, i could be wrong about all of this....feelings and automation seem to be at odds.

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ORIGINAL: MastersBabieGirl

personally when i have been neglected due to my master being over tired over worked etc i will start to disobey to get him back to himself
i dont think its being bratty in our case its something that he enjoys as well

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ORIGINAL: SweetSarijane

A conversation I had recently with a Dom friend sparked this curiosity. We have talked online for a few months, and I am comfortable enough with him to speak my mind quite openly on things, and generally ask his opinion on whatever comes to mind. I also am comfortable enough to "tweak the tiger's tail" so to speak and just be me. I asked him if he still saw me as submissive even at the times I'm being sassy, mouthy, or teasing him, or pushing his buttons, and the times when I bluntly voice my opinion or view of things, or if to him it made me less submissive. It made me curious to hear from other Doms their views on this. When a sub (your sub or a good friend who is sub) does this, does it change your perception of his/her level of submissiveness, make them seem less submissive? Is it offensive to you?