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protocol - 11/18/2005 2:04:04 PM   
cravinspankin


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I realize this is probably a question that will not generate much convo, but could really use an answer.
When at a lifestyle party/event, and introductions are being made, who should be introduced first?
I am a sub, and will be accompanied to some events in the very near future with a Dom that i am getting to know and perhaps may one day become His sub.
As i introduce him to my friends, some sub some Dom/Domme, who should be introduced first?
Or does it matter at all???
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RE: protocol - 11/18/2005 2:31:13 PM   
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Well, that's a good question. I guess, it would depend on where you were meeting with your friends at? Is it at someone's home, your home, a club, a restaurant? Everyone has different views on "proper etiquette".

If I was in your shoes, I would introduce him to the Doms/Dommes first, and their subs/slaves second. But as I stated, that is just me, and everyone has their own system for such things.

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RE: protocol - 11/18/2005 2:46:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cravinspankin

I realize this is probably a question that will not generate much convo, but could really use an answer.
When at a lifestyle party/event, and introductions are being made, who should be introduced first?
I am a sub, and will be accompanied to some events in the very near future with a Dom that i am getting to know and perhaps may one day become His sub.
As i introduce him to my friends, some sub some Dom/Domme, who should be introduced first?
Or does it matter at all???

The person who already knows the other party should introduce the other party to the escort.

Thus you would say "Ellen, please meet John, he's just in this weekend from Mexico."

This avoids anyone feeling like THEY should somehow know the other person, which they obviously shouldn't, lets the new person feel welcomed and important and keeps everyone informed.

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RE: protocol - 11/18/2005 2:51:00 PM   
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Well put !

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RE: protocol - 11/18/2005 3:33:12 PM   
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I think unless it is people that you will play with then I would introduce them to the male first then the female.

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RE: protocol - 11/18/2005 3:41:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: imtempting

I think unless it is people that you will play with then I would introduce them to the male first then the female.

*furrowed brow*

What does being male or female have to do with anything?

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RE: protocol - 11/18/2005 3:48:26 PM   
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When I am introducing someone to my friends, I always introduce him/her to the dominant person first, whether it be a man or a woman.

example, a male Master and his fem slave. "Sue, I would like you to meet John and LuLu" Simple as that.


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RE: protocol - 11/18/2005 3:49:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Synocense
example, a male Master and his fem slave. "Sue, I would like you to meet John and LuLu" Simple as that.

What is they are switches or you aren't sure who is being dominant that night?

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RE: protocol - 11/18/2005 4:13:18 PM   
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you can't go wrong deferring to YOUR Dominant first, unless you are acknowledging that someone is more "senior" than your Dominant. your friends will know you're in service, so introducing your Dominant first will not be a problem as they should understand, right?

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RE: protocol - 11/18/2005 5:29:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressFire70

you can't go wrong deferring to YOUR Dominant first, unless you are acknowledging that someone is more "senior" than your Dominant. your friends will know you're in service, so introducing your Dominant first will not be a problem as they should understand, right?

Fire




the other thought is not to worry if one is Dominant or sub or switch.... introduce first that who is the most significant to you first!

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RE: protocol - 11/18/2005 6:49:26 PM   
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In my mind it's the same..the senior that is introduced to the junior (as in Master i'd like to introduce my friend sue). If one is much older then they're introduced first (Grandmother i'd like you to meet Master). While i know there are certain protocols that come into play within a D/s relationship, i think the usual "standard" rules apply -- when it doubt, however, my Master always came first..lol...

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RE: protocol - 11/19/2005 11:26:00 AM   
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It was stated right, introduce Master to the Dom/mes first then the sub/slaves. If they are a pair, then the most important Dom/me first with their other/s. Then proceed down the line. i.ee - this is Master John and his slave jane from .....(include other discriptives for your Master to refer back to... jogs the memory) This is Mistress Mary and slave joe who own... This is my best friend slave sally.

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RE: protocol - 11/19/2005 11:47:16 AM   
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dear cravinA

spankin,
picture this: crude extreme example:
do you walk in a room, with no special knowledge ,and, intro princes and kings to plebian barnyard slaves....
on the other end of the spectrum do you disrespect a slave, to an important mistress or top?
personally ;as the bottom of bottoms :i would never go mixing top ,with bottoms ,or subs, if i was interested ,in a top
and a top really notices it ,too
one on one a top might ask you later in confidence "why did you, intro me to, that person for ....
they are a slave are'nt they?" and restate to you"well; im a top."..(like you cant tell the difference, when it makes a difference,to them)
its, probably ,rare ,for a sub or bottom ,to do any intros ,unless its screening or intimately personal .its up, to a top ,to do any intros

if the new tops ,with you;of course , introduce ,that top person first,to all the tops ,in the room; tops ,to be honored first.
even, if you say ok this is (,intro your newest ) ,to the royal queen marty or diana ,(a better -known top ,waiting ,to meet your new top ,into the party circuit)which ever it may be
the new top one with you always is first and greet or meet all the tops waitng for the new entry ,to be introduced...

and, leave the subs out unless,specially requested ,by the newest top with you ,to be introduced...
as a sub your whole world is dom ,and ,tops .what's the intro ,to the rug season all ,about?
...you say ,to ,that new top person ,on the sly ok this person im gonna introduce you ,to is a bottom,(specially say it too),or
this is a sub.(last ,on the list,if at all ,or, by request ,only)

switchs third ,in the intro line;its less confusing.make it look fun; like this special ones into who she/he is top and bottom!

,unless you are requested ,by the top, to be specially ,introduced ,to a sub....then you better be pretty g.d. friendly,to if this is a request.

with all no switch well known bottoms ,no intros needed ;seen ,not heard;
,if ,at all
you say this is a sub,or
we can do this one intro later ....and ,you always intro yourself last ,if necessary ,with all doms
all the time
whats the guess work?
what,s your PRIORITY?
SUBS KNOW THEIR PLACE ,AND ,HAVE NO TROUBLE ASKING WHO'S THIS ,EITHER....THAT'S ,only RESPECT(if you treated me like i was'nt a sub dutifully ,in my place and, made everyone bow 'to me ,in special primary intros - there's no respect ,for my image' or my top ,if you don't respect me' as a bottom ,nor ,for who i say i am' ,or who i am,supposed ,to be ,to everyone' in thier respective places)


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RE: protocol - 11/19/2005 11:58:05 AM   
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I am still very old fashion, however the following is the protocols I use under differing situations.

Vanilla ~ Western Society

Lady/s then Men unless it is a formal/state function then in order of precidence with the most Senior Titled Person and his partner first and then in decending order (being sure to give the correst mode of address and the correct titles in their order or precidence)

Vanilla ~ Western Business

Most senior person First then on decending order of importance

Vanilla ~ Military

By order of rank, highest rank first

Vanilla ~ Asian

Senior male then other males followed by Senior Female then other females.

BDSM ~

Dominant first then their sub/slaves (I prefer to go Ladies First), then uncollared sub/slaves. Switches should be asked if they wish to be included with the Dominants or sub/slaves.

Gorean ~

Free Men (with their slaves)
Free Women (with their slaves)
Slaves (without their owners if they are not present)

It is always good to give a short bio on the people you are introducing as it helps to break the ice, gives others something to kick start a conversation and helps fix each person in the mind of the person they are being introduced too.

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RE: protocol - 11/20/2005 1:51:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cravinspankin

I realize this is probably a question that will not generate much convo, but could really use an answer.
When at a lifestyle party/event, and introductions are being made, who should be introduced first?
I am a sub, and will be accompanied to some events in the very near future with a Dom that i am getting to know and perhaps may one day become His sub.
As i introduce him to my friends, some sub some Dom/Domme, who should be introduced first?
Or does it matter at all???



When I am introducing Sir around, I do it by how *I* perceive the seniority in the bunch.

If it's a well-known and well-respected (by me) person, it's "X, may I present my Sir, J-. Sir, this is X"

If it's just your average Joe, it's "Sir, may I present X. X, this is my Sir, J-"

As far as who in a group I introduce Sir to first? Really, whomever I encounter first. If they all come up at once, I do it the easy way. "Everyone, this is my Sir, J-. Sir, this is X, Y, Z...", etc.


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RE: protocol - 11/20/2005 2:22:51 PM   
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as owned property, i make no introductions at events, and do not even speak to another without my Master's permission. as a single submissive being accompanied by a Dominant, imo you should allow him to make all introductions (including introducing himself to your friends, and introducing you to others), unless told otherwise by him.

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RE: protocol - 11/20/2005 2:43:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists




the other thought is not to worry if one is Dominant or sub or switch.... introduce first that who is the most significant to you first!


thank you... with not "knowing" ...... i will at least myself know the proper protocol should te situation arise before me.

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RE: protocol - 11/20/2005 3:08:58 PM   
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what does being male or female have to do with it?

in SOME circles it is called..........male privilege!
males are normally THEE head honcho in the vanilla world and often times ALSO in the s/m world TOO!
"I" experienced this in calif.....



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RE: protocol - 11/20/2005 4:15:15 PM   
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quote:

males are normally THEE head honcho in the vanilla world and often times ALSO in the s/m world TOO!


I know many successful women as well as female dominants that would disagree with this statement. As do I.

In fact, I know an awful lot of men that would disagree as well.

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RE: protocol - 11/20/2005 8:15:34 PM   
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I do not see how anyone could argue with her statement. She said "normally" and "often". You may not like it or agree with those two words but they are correct assessments. Now if you feel she was saying normally and it means it is normal for the men to be head and unnormal for a women then you could have some issue. It seems clear she is using normal in this context to indicate the norm or the average or mean the most likely.

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