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OrionTheWolf -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 9:46:51 AM)

But those tears they shed are so genuine, they must be accurate in their feelings.




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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

It's not always the dom.

Sometimes it's just a sub making mountains out of mole hills.




Leatherist -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 9:49:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

But those tears they shed are so genuine, they must be accurate in their feelings.




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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

It's not always the dom.

Sometimes it's just a sub making mountains out of mole hills.



[:o] He didn't buy me twenty new pairs of shoes-I am SO ABUSED!!!!!!!!!!




UmbraDomina -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 11:20:18 AM)

I do a hell of alot more to my beloved slave then I would ever do to a dog or cat, I would never strap my dog to a cross and beat the holy hell out of them, so I guess I do treat my slave worse then my animals. In fact before our wonderful dog passed away it was a running joke, that she was MY mistress, and that I served her, I promise you noone has ever thought I might be submitting to my beloved slave.  BTW it was a joke, NO before any one writes me, animals in play are a hard limit.
As for family, ect. my beloved slave never met my son, or family members until we had been together a good year and a half. I was never one of those people who's child met ever tom dick and harry, and had "uncles" running in and out of his life. I protect my family, I don't introduce them to everyone I have sex with.... why would I?
As for service slaves, and such.... they never met my family, they have no need to, I also don't introduce my family to the vacuam cleaner, broom, or when I had a nilla housekeeper, I didn't introduce them to her either.
People should get over themselves with this entitlement crap if you enter a releationship it is your job to know where it is going and what is expected of you, if you don't or you have some fantasy about where it will go, it's your fault.
I did tell my beloved slave, "oh by the way, your abused, and treated poorly according to some of the boards", his answer was "Please don't stop Mistress"

Alexandra ~




Mercnbeth -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 12:20:52 PM)

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Why is it ok for a Dom to treat someone who worships the ground they walk on worse than an animal?


because, in our society, animals "belong" to someone, as in "property".  they can be bought and sold and some are even slaughtered and served for dinner. we, as a society, therefore, have set up rights, responsibilities and guidelines for how they can be treated, which ones can be slaughtered and in what manner, timelines and specially trained doctors to perform medical procedures that are allowed and/or required by local law to be performed on them, including, but not limited to, castration and euthanasia.  some animals even have a special designation of "threatened" or "protected", and there are even more rules and regulations regarding any possible encounter you might have with them or their habitat.
 
our society doesn't allow for people to be "owned", so therefore, there are no rules in place for how a sub or slave who considers themselves "owned" should be treated, cared for or disposed of.  it is up to the folks involved and their own personal integrity, to work those details out.
 
owning an animal comes with a set of expected responsibilities---you can't treat them however you want---just ask Michael Vick.[;)]




IrishMist -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 12:38:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Disclaimer:

This is in no way directed at or meant to offend anyone into animal play.

I've lost count of the number of times I've seen comments on here like "He's your Dom not your boyfriend" and "You're a slave, so he doesn't have to acknowledge your birthday or introduce you to his family or friends" in response to complaints of being treated like a dirty lil secret. How many of you who have made such comments have friendly pets? Do you hide your pets from friends and family when they visit? Why would you hide a person you're seeing on a regular basis? Why is it ok for a Dom to treat someone who worships the ground they walk on worse than an animal? Obviously, it's not consentual in these cases or the sub/slave wouldn't be complaining. I think far too many forget that emotional sadism needs to be consentual too.

When I was in a relationship; it was not EXPECTED/demanded that he remember my birthday, get/give me gifts or encouragement. If he never introduced me to his family; that was ok because I was PROPERTY. He was not required to introduce me to his family. He was not required to introduce me to his friends ( and quite often, we would go to his friends houses, and he would leave me in the car only to introduce me right before we went home ).

Personally, I don't see what the big fucking deal is to you how he treated me. Nor do I understand why you would be concerned about how others treat their property. It's not your relationship; you are not privvy to the inner workings; which makes you unqualified to state that its right or wrong.

As an after thought...we had pets...and the pets had senority over me...that's the way our relationship worked...and it worked very well for us for more than 15 years. Not everyone objects to such behavior just because you do.




UmbraDomina -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 12:50:28 PM)

P.S - I have owned my slave for 8 years, and he has been my husband for 2 years, and I still can't remember when his birthday is.... it's some where in jan. As he has said," it's not important Mistress, my birthday is when you say it is."




Owner4SexSlave -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 2:03:59 PM)

Please don't take this post too serious!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some people take and lock their pets away when company shows up for a visit. Because they don't want their animals Drooling and Slobbering all over thier guests.

Some animals, well just don't like strangers showing up at the house.  Some animals just want to play play play.. and become a distration to the visit.

Nothing more embrassing then having a Dog trying to hump (fuck) your family and friends legs..

Not to mention those infamous crotch sniffing and licking pets.

The kitty cat that wants to claw and climb all over somebody, leave scratch marks on your guests arms, legs and neck.

The Dog that wants to chew on the shoe laces.    That Damn Cat in heat that is running around Meowing and acting crazier then bat shit.

LOL.......  thought I'd just post some reasons why people keep their pet's away from family and friends.





MstrTiger -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 2:09:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: softness

[Obviously it is consensual for as long as that person is staying in the relationship. Its called tacit consent. Just because they are not jumping around waving a glittery spangled magic consent flag doesn't mean consent isn't present.



I want a glittery spangled magic concent flag!




tingedpurple -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 2:37:52 PM)

I'd like to add the possibility that the Dom/me hasn't yet come to terms with his passion for BDSM, still considers it something wrong or awkward enough to want to hide it, and as such avoids any situation where the topic of BDSM may arise in a vanilla setting.  The same can also be said of the submissive.

In my first DS relationship I still hadn't come to terms with myself, and in a sense, I confess, I still haven't because I'd rather keep such relationships discreet, and would rarely see my Domme in any social setting unless it was just the two of us.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 4:12:18 PM)

Well what I say is "How is the structure of your relationship set up?" and "What are the expectations you have given to eachother?"

It's not "because he's your master" It's "because this is the relationship you created together and said you were fulfilled by"




barelynangel -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 7:25:27 PM)

chuckles

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  First of all, I wouldn't fuck anybody I considered a buddy


One of my best friends has a very true and realistic response to this lol.... if you can't fuck your friends, who can you fuck? 

just saying,  angel




IrishMist -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 9:08:16 PM)

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One of my best friends has a very true and realistic response to this lol.... if you can't fuck your friends, who can you fuck? 

just saying,  angel

LMFAO

So true...so very true




AquaticSub -> RE: treating subs/slaves worse than animals (8/7/2008 9:45:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Why is it ok for a Dom to treat someone who worships the ground they walk on worse than an animal? Obviously, it's not consentual in these cases or the sub/slave wouldn't be complaining. I think far too many forget that emotional sadism needs to be consentual too.


Because, in theory, they were open and upfront about what kind of dom they are and what they expect so that the submissive/slave consented to that treatment happily.

If not, it's just another miscommunication issue.




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