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Would activated charcoal help control the nasty freezer... - 8/7/2008 10:48:18 AM

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I know it'll help control oder in fridges but what about freezers.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 10:50:58 AM

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I don't know... I tend to hide my dead bodies elsewhere... and haven't noticed that smell. Good luck with that!

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 10:53:27 AM

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lockit lol, I am smart I don't kill anybody and then no dead bodies. I just HATE the smell freezers get, and it's a pain in the ass to unplug un pack haul out and monkey with. if you could lesson that smell from happening to a degree woohoo.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 11:01:50 AM

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Nope.

You need elbow grease.

You gotta get rid of all open containers,even frozen ones.Get rid of the old ice and frost.Empty the thing and scrub the innerds with bleach.

All new and old items being put back should be covered in good tupperwear or those high end freezer bags,the thick ones.

IMO,it`s garlic smell/flavor that affects the taste of other foods and cube ice.

If you`re careful to seal things well before frezzing,it`s shouldn`t come back.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 11:05:57 AM

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I don't know... I tend to hide my dead bodies elsewhere... and haven't noticed that smell. Good luck with that!

havent you learned from watching texas chainsaw that these bodies in freezers may actually not be dead???

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 11:10:15 AM

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Like I said, I hide my dead bodies elsewhere and stopped watching texas chainsaw like after the first one and I just remember that friggin meat hook!

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 11:11:52 AM

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I know it'll help control oder in fridges but what about freezers.

I keep a box of baking soda in the freezer and it works but I tend not to store anything in the freezer that isn't in airtight containers.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 11:14:19 AM

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Maybe that's the problem, people around here, just throw things in willy nilly after they been opend. They seem to have no concept that you can't throw open packages poorly wrapped into the freezer an expect anything less than gross freezer burned crap to come out.

And no amount of explaining will correct that.

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I know it'll help control oder in fridges but what about freezers.

I keep a box of baking soda in the freezer and it works but I tend not to store anything in the freezer that isn't in airtight containers.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 11:15:57 AM

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This smell isn't a garlic one it's a very bad freezer burn oder and it flavors the ice and anything else in the freezer.

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IMO,it`s garlic smell/flavor that affects the taste of other foods and cube ice.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 11:18:13 AM

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Maybe that's the problem, people around here, just throw things in willy nilly after they been opend. They seem to have no concept that you can't throw open packages poorly wrapped into the freezer an expect anything less than gross freezer burned crap to come out.

And no amount of explaining will correct that.

I know some techniques that will make an impression.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 12:00:57 PM

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1. The odor usually isn't there until you open the door. Really, whatever has been outgassing in there, it's output doesn't do much, and if it did you wouldn't be able to smell it. When you open the door it brings in ambient air which is full of moisture, that is what carries the odor to your olfactories.

2. If flavors are mixing and screwing up how the food tastes, it is not wrapped right. There are no exceptions. Those smells are the flavor of your food evaporating. Really the only solution is good quality bags or containers with lids.

Containers with lids are a better solution economically because you can wash and reuse them. But a freezer is not some kind of time warp stasis chamber. If freezer burn happens, it was not packaged correctly for freezing. And that is also precisely where the smell comes from.

Also, in time it can be absorbed into the walls of the freezer if they are plastic. The solubility of a gas into a solid goes up at lower temperatures. Therefore when you decide to wrap or package everything well, at least one time you should shut it down completely. Let it get warm and use warm or hot water solution to clean it. This will draw as much as possible out of it.

Afterwards, plug it back in and let it get cold. If you smell anything then it is from the ducts and whatever. In that case sell it and get a new one. But the point is, you don't have to, just package the food properly and the smell should not affect it. Remember the smell came from food that was not packaged properly. If it couldn't get out the problem would not exist, and really, if it can't get in who cares ? A minor smell in there isn't the end of the world, as long as it doesn't affect the food. So package it correctly and what can't get out, also can't get in.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 12:24:30 PM

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I don't know... I tend to hide my dead bodies elsewhere... and haven't noticed that smell. Good luck with that!

havent you learned from watching texas chainsaw that these bodies in freezers may actually not be dead???

Hell it's not just happening in the movies these days...

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 1:51:57 PM

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Clean everything out of it, scrub it down, rinse it out, start over with fresh food, everything in sealed, air tight containers. Baking soda works well for absorbing any lingering smells.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 2:31:58 PM

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Back in the day when I was in retail selling frig's, we used newspaper's to asborb oders from re-conditioned freezers, leave it in for a day or two and replace when needed

If you are getting freezer burn (all the frost build up) that is from the freezer, 1) has a bad seal, 2) temp needs adjusting, or 3) you never defrost the thing (should be done once a year)

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 2:36:52 PM

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Skip the bleach -- that stuff is toxic as all get-out!

My mom always used baking soda water to wipe out the freezer after it was defrosted, and it would go six months without that funky freezer smell (ok, it probably went longer than that, but she insisted on taking the damned thing apart every six months).

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Nope.

You need elbow grease.

You gotta get rid of all open containers,even frozen ones.Get rid of the old ice and frost.Empty the thing and scrub the innerds with bleach.

All new and old items being put back should be covered in good tupperwear or those high end freezer bags,the thick ones.

IMO,it`s garlic smell/flavor that affects the taste of other foods and cube ice.

If you`re careful to seal things well before frezzing,it`s shouldn`t come back.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 7:16:45 PM

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Our fridge is frostless it doesn't ever frost and ice up. I suppose though they still need a chance to "defrost" even though no ice forms.

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Back in the day when I was in retail selling frig's, we used newspaper's to asborb oders from re-conditioned freezers, leave it in for a day or two and replace when needed

If you are getting freezer burn (all the frost build up) that is from the freezer, 1) has a bad seal, 2) temp needs adjusting, or 3) you never defrost the thing (should be done once a year)

ahhh spell checking after posting, when will I learn

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 7:51:15 PM

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I have a frost free freezer and it never smells of anything. I even place meats in there directly from the grocery store in the original packaging but I don't keep it forever. Things I am not going to use right away and/or sauces and things I make go into freezer bags. Things that come in plastic bags like frozen veggies I always use a chip clip or clothes pins to roll up and reseal. Anything roughly 3 months old goes, except homemade sauces and soups, as I figure if I didn't use it by then I am not going to.

I have never had to scrub it or use anything in it for odors. Keeping the food well maintained will keep the freezer well maintained.

Newspaper is also a great idea when either fridge or freezer isn't full. They keep things colder and control odor. Partially empty, they use more electricity. Just ball them up and place in the open spaces.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 8:15:54 PM

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1. The odor usually isn't there until you open the door. Really, whatever has been outgassing in there, it's output doesn't do much, and if it did you wouldn't be able to smell it. When you open the door it brings in ambient air which is full of moisture, that is what carries the odor to your olfactories.

2. If flavors are mixing and screwing up how the food tastes, it is not wrapped right. There are no exceptions. Those smells are the flavor of your food evaporating. Really the only solution is good quality bags or containers with lids.

Containers with lids are a better solution economically because you can wash and reuse them. But a freezer is not some kind of time warp stasis chamber. If freezer burn happens, it was not packaged correctly for freezing. And that is also precisely where the smell comes from.

Also, in time it can be absorbed into the walls of the freezer if they are plastic. The solubility of a gas into a solid goes up at lower temperatures.

Freezer burn cannot be avoided unless a food is cryovac'ed; only delayed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freezer_burn Ice sublimes under the right conditions, just like solid CO2. Also, the two sentences I bolded, well, they are just flat-out wrong.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 8:19:44 PM

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Skip the bleach -- that stuff is toxic as all get-out!

My mom always used baking soda water to wipe out the freezer after it was defrosted, and it would go six months without that funky freezer smell (ok, it probably went longer than that, but she insisted on taking the damned thing apart every six months).

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Nope.

You need elbow grease.

You gotta get rid of all open containers,even frozen ones.Get rid of the old ice and frost.Empty the thing and scrub the innerds with bleach.

All new and old items being put back should be covered in good tupperwear or those high end freezer bags,the thick ones.

IMO,it`s garlic smell/flavor that affects the taste of other foods and cube ice.

If you`re careful to seal things well before frezzing,it`s shouldn`t come back.

Bleach - sodium hypochlorite - is exceptionaly safe as long as one doesn't drink it or inject it.

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RE: Would activated charcoal help control the nasty fre... - 8/7/2008 8:58:20 PM

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I use vinegar to de-smell everything, especially that awful wet cat smell our washer gets, because of my stupid roomie leaving her stuff in there overnight. I've never tired in in the freezer, but I think it would probably have the same deoderizing effect.

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