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Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 2:24:29 AM   
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I am getting ready to talk to a Dominant about negotiating a 2-3 day interrogation scene. I have never done an interrogation scene...i have never seen an interrogation scene. Although this Dominant is very well known and respected in the community, She and i have never played together. Like myself, i believe her to be an edge player.

I have no idea what to expect...and this is a great cause of excitement for me.

Due to this recent development i have been talking to different folks about interrogation scenes. I want to be as prepared as possible. I want to do everything in my power to last as long as possible for this 2-3 day period....to enjoy (maybe that's the wrong word) every minute of it. She will have at least one other, possibly more, to assist her...so i see where sleep depervation will most likely be something i have to contend with.

If i could ask those of you who are familiar with interrogation scenes to please share your wisdom with me....ways in which i can prepare and ready myself, things to look out for....any advice at all that you can give would be greatly appreciated....thanks so much,


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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 2:53:22 AM   
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Ive seen real interrogations.

If its anything like that, prepare for no sleep, loud music all the time, threats against you, your family.

All sorts of mindfuckery.

Really, breaking people isnt hard. You just dont let them sleep for four days. That will break almost anyone.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 6:38:07 AM   
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YOu gotta have something to hold onto. You gotta believe.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 6:55:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wipmebeetme100

I am getting ready to talk to a Dominant about negotiating a 2-3 day interrogation scene. I have never done an interrogation scene...i have never seen an interrogation scene. Although this Dominant is very well known and respected in the community, She and i have never played together. Like myself, i believe her to be an edge player.

I have no idea what to expect...and this is a great cause of excitement for me.

Due to this recent development i have been talking to different folks about interrogation scenes. I want to be as prepared as possible. I want to do everything in my power to last as long as possible for this 2-3 day period....to enjoy (maybe that's the wrong word) every minute of it. She will have at least one other, possibly more, to assist her...so i see where sleep depervation will most likely be something i have to contend with.

If i could ask those of you who are familiar with interrogation scenes to please share your wisdom with me....ways in which i can prepare and ready myself, things to look out for....any advice at all that you can give would be greatly appreciated....thanks so much,


cathy


While I'm sure I'd never convince the National Command Authority, long term torture as a tool for information gathering isn't effective. At best, it can be used to elicit or confirm a single fact and that can be done fairly rapidly.

That said, I've done interrogation scenes which were mostly disorientation and intense pain scenes where the safeword was the information required.

At Inner Exporations, we offered a "double or nothing deal. The usual fee was $200. If a client really wanted an interrogation scene we had him bring $400 in cash. The dungeon had a programmable safe. He would put the cash in the safe and set the combination. The domme's job was to get the combination in an hour. I don't recall how many we did in two years but I do remember we didn't get the cash in only one case.

As for what you might face, I can't address that. The range of particulars is so large that it would take a book to cover them.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 7:56:22 AM   
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I have no experience in 'interrogation play' however I can tell you a few things I learned about interrogation in the military.

The first thing they teach you is focus. You have to have something outside the interrogation to hold onto. One man tells of rebuilding the engine in his car. During each interrogation session he would mentally work on that engine. He pictured himself removing each and every bolt. He inspected the parts in his mind and spent time cleaning and arranging them. Then he carefully, piece by piece reassembled that engine and installed it. He did all of this in his mind from something like 'subspace' while the interrogation went on. Do you knit? Or sew? Maybe something like that to focus on.

Just remember that anyone can and will break under interrogation if the right procedures are applied. These procedures are different for each individual but a real pro interrogator will find your personal weaknesses and build on them.

Good luck and please let us know how this turns out.


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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 8:18:31 AM   
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I think you might be setting yourself up for failure simply by trying to anticipate what's going to happen. Go with the flow...as things described by people in this forum will most likely differ from whatever it is this dominant has in mind for you.

Even so, my advice:

Hydrate.
Go to the bathroom before the scene starts.
Stretch.

Good luck.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 8:36:15 AM   
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quote:

Just remember that anyone can and will break under interrogation if the right procedures are applied. These procedures are different for each individual but a real pro interrogator will find your personal weaknesses and build on them.


Isn't that the whole idea? Also, this isn't the military. It is a person playing a game. So torture will be involved. Lots of yelling and screaming. Maybe bondage.
We have a guy here who gloats over his effective skills at interrogation scenes.
Its laughable to me.

The person has to present some sort of power over you. Address some sore of fear. If you have none it will not work.
It is still a scene no matter what you want to call it. You still have limits that must be obeyed. Otherwise you should not play. So, first thing you need to do is communicate with this woman.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 8:44:39 AM   
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If you get a chance, watch the movie, The Marathon Man with Dustin Hoffman and Sir Laurence Olivier........

Sometimes interrrogations are done, and you have no idea what information they are soliciting.....therefore; as others have posted here, there is little you can do to prepare; what will occur is you will find your inner self, your breaking point (everyone has one, even if that point is death)

What's the frequency Kenneth?

That was my favorite.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 9:30:33 AM   
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Like Darkslife, I've seen interrogations, I've also been the interogator (With no "nice" parlomentary rules to follow) and I've been "hard" interogated by professionals. In real life, nothing can prepare you for interogation but I, of course refer to the real deal. From personal preference, I've stayed well away from Interrogation scenes in BDSM (Too many bad memories) but as sub4hire commented, this after all is a scene and your safe word and limits must be respected. I would immagine thay you could prepare just as you would for any new edgy scene, expect the worst and enjoy the wold ride. I'd love to hear a report from you after the event, it would be quite educational.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 9:32:02 AM   
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quote:

I think you might be setting yourself up for failure simply by trying to anticipate what's going to happen.



I am not so much trying to anticipate what is going to happen....not knowing what is going to happen is a big attraction for me. The whole scene would not be anticipated as much if it were scripted out. I am wanting advice from others on what has helped them to stay focused, any tricks they know of either from experience or training.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 9:39:38 AM   
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There is no real way to "prepare" for an interogation scene if you are the one that is being interogated...

The experience is what to expect sa everyone's means and ,manner of approaching it is different.

If the person involved (the interogator) is skilled - then they will be able to see what sort of "defence" you are using and work to overcome it by taking the entire thing in a differnet direction.

Standard techniques (that are not torture by international law, by the way) is sleep deprivation, long and extensive (attempted) discussion, misdirection, lies to illicit a verbal response, lies to illicit a physical reaction, assumption about intent, observation of person, observation of surroundings, verbal threat, verbal bloster, minor repetetive physical discomfort, increased illumination, informants, electronic easedropping, shock methods (this refers to sudden awakenings, rough handling and brusque mannerisms directed towards the subject), etc.

But - as mentioned - we are not talking about international laws and these are only the tip of the iceberg on things that are utilized outside of them.

Jack McGeorge gives a fantastic seminar on this (as a former military interogator) - and, mentions that some of the things that have broken people in his experience have usually been issues that (to many others) would be absolutely nonsensical, but are exceptionally signficant for the person who was 'broken'....

Everyone has a key.

The interogator's job is to find it and open a few doors that they want to.

Extra reading for thoise who are interested are the "KGB Manual of Interogation and Informational Gathering" (it was in print a few years ago - and, offers some interesting incites that are otherwise lacking into the personal psychology of a prisoner).

Hope this helps.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 9:46:40 AM   
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The person has to present some sort of power over you. Address some sore of fear. If you have none it will not work.
It is still a scene no matter what you want to call it. You still have limits that must be obeyed. Otherwise you should not play. So, first thing you need to do is communicate with this woman.



I have communicated my limits to her and there is no problem there. She has also stated that the scene will not result in a trip to the emergency room, or death....darn good thing there.
She represents an authority figure to me....so she does have power over me. I DO have a few fears. I was thinking that i was not going to volunteer that information to her, that would be something she would have to work on figuring out...any thoughts on that????

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 10:34:45 AM   
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yeah, simple.....how long do you want the interrogation to go on? If you spill the guts of the matter right outta the chute, then it becomes fait accompli.....

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 11:37:30 AM   
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yeah, simple.....how long do you want the interrogation to go on? If you spill the guts of the matter right outta the chute, then it becomes fait accompli.....

Ron


Otherthan giving your limits and other essential information pertaining to your health and safety; say Nothing.... You Nothing! You See/Saw Nothing! You Know Nothing!

Every other piece of information you give ESPECIALLY regarding fears, likes, dislikes loves and hates etc is giving your interrogator/s ammunition to use against you, leavers to manouver/mindfuck you and keys with which to open you. If they do their job well, at the end of the scene you may well find a love/dependency emotional feeling towards them. This is quite common and one which is in itself a powerful tiool. One of the manifestations is the fear-yet-longing for the next session to begin. The Good Cop/Bad Cop routine came from the Arc but by golly it is an excelent one if used properly.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 11:47:41 AM   
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quote:

She represents an authority figure to me....so she does have power over me. I DO have a few fears. I was thinking that i was not going to volunteer that information to her, that would be something she would have to work on figuring out...any thoughts on that????


Don't tell her anything (other than hard limits). Everything else should be discovered in-scene, that's the fun for the interrogator. Does the victim respond to pain, humiliation, threats, fatigue, isolation, nausea? Trying all the combinations is the point.

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Its laughable to me.
The person has to present some sort of power over you. Address some sore of fear. If you have none it will not work.
It is still a scene no matter what you want to call it.


Anyone who thinks they have no fear or buttons to push is kidding themselves. Yes, you can end the whole thing rather than give in if you want, but then you're quitting. You didn't beat the interrogation, you gave up. There's a huge difference.

I think John's idea, as usual, is brilliantly simple. Double-or-nothing for a bank combination is an ingenious way to measure success, by putting a genuine value on the information being extracted.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 5:16:17 PM   
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quote:

While I'm sure I'd never convince the National Command Authority, long term torture as a tool for information gathering isn't effective. At best, it can be used to elicit or confirm a single fact and that can be done fairly rapidly.

That said, I've done interrogation scenes which were mostly disorientation and intense pain scenes where the safeword was the information required.


I've only dabbled in interrogation scenes but it's most definitely a kink I want to explore more. The idea of having the safeword as the information required is a good one. I actually have only played with safewords a few times before I realised I didn't really need one (I know, not very SSC but I never claimed to be). But I can see how a safeword can become useful as part of the play here.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 5:21:39 PM   
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Anyone who thinks they have no fear or buttons to push is kidding themselves. Yes, you can end the whole thing rather than give in if you want, but then you're quitting. You didn't beat the interrogation, you gave up. There's a huge difference.



I know i have fears...and buttons, plenty of them. I have never been a quitter, and i don't see myself quitting. At the same time i can not picture myself "beating" the interrogation....although that is my goal.

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/19/2005 6:04:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear
say Nothing.... You Nothing! You See/Saw Nothing! You Know Nothing!


As IronBear said, Be the Sergeant Schultz.......become the Sergeant Schultz.

Really,
Ron

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/20/2005 8:03:38 AM   
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G'day Ron, I have a question for you mate...

If I were to restrain you and chain you to a suitabler post set in the ground, and right before you I fired up the BBQ and tossed a kilo of tiger prawns on to cook, making sure the wind was blowing the aroma toward you , and again right in front of you, cracked open a can of Fosters, besided you calling me for being a MFSOB, wouldn't that test your resolve? If in due course I passed a cooked prawn over you lips so you got the tast and even allowed a drop of the frothy stuff drip onto your parched lips, how much resolve whould you have left????????? (Being a really evil bastard that I am, I just had to ask).

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RE: Interrogation scene - 11/20/2005 9:40:04 AM   
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The idea of having the safeword as the information required is a good one. I actually have only played with safewords a few times before I realised I didn't really need one (I know, not very SSC but I never claimed to be). But I can see how a safeword can become useful as part of the play here.


I don't play with safewords....and i have not yet been involved in a scene that was more than i could take. I have a feeling that this scene will change all that.

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