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OrionTheWolf -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/9/2008 10:03:11 PM)
A discussion board is often a place to exchange ideas. Your objective seems to me, to define for everyone else what things are. Your posts come across as if you have a severe need to be "right". Your question seemed more self serving than actual exchange of ideas. I recommend some meditation and self reflection on these issues. It will likely help you in many of the areas you have questions in. quote: ORIGINAL: Philosopher13 Funny thing is that I asked this same question at Fetlife and got an answer that had something to do with the relationship dynamics, power exchange, etc. Makes me beg the question if I had asked this first before posting my opinions in the other post would I have gotten a different answer. Gregory "One man with courage is a majority" Thomas Jefferson

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/9/2008 10:19:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Philosopher13 Funny thing is that I asked this same question at Fetlife and got an answer that had something to do with the relationship dynamics, power exchange, etc. Makes me beg the question if I had asked this first before posting my opinions in the other post would I have gotten a different answer. Gregory "One man with courage is a majority" Thomas Jefferson Can you send the link? The only thread I see you starting on Fetlife was the one about Ms vs Ds, not this one about goals.

Nitefalls1000 -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/10/2008 8:01:18 AM)
ownership vs. control

Philosopher13 -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/10/2008 8:19:35 AM)
http://fetlife.com/groups/219/group_posts/11128

RedMagic1 -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/10/2008 8:37:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nitefalls1000 ownership vs. control Those are characteristics, not goals.

Mercnbeth -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/10/2008 8:59:11 AM)
~ Fast Reply ~ Our goals are for world peace, the end of hunger, nuclear disarmament, the end of all organized religions, emotional catharsis, mental nirvana, and mind blowing full body orgasms. Trying to figure out if we fall under the definition of the OP's label "M/s" or "D/s". We just want to conform to 'standards' and find our niche.

antipode -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/10/2008 9:12:00 AM)
It is jargon. I'll say it again: there isn't a rulebook, one fills it in the way one wants to.

Philosopher13 -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/10/2008 10:31:26 AM)
Try playing a sport like golf without rules or flying an aircraft without rules. There are hundreds or examples and golf for example wouldn't be worth playing without rules and flying an aircraft without rules would lead to a crash. There always should be basic rules so people with compatibility can find each other. What the two or so people do after that is all fine and dandy as my extrapolation on M/s is most definitely different than others but I do adhere to a basic set of constraints and rules to create that relationship from. My theory on why people don't like the idea of any rules placed on them is it is about ego. They like to use the word slave to describe themselves for ego purposes and so even if they don't fit the any basic criteria of what a slave is they feel like it validates them and gives them more worth. Gregory "One man with courage is a majority" Thomas Jefferson

AllietheKitten -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/10/2008 9:10:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Philosopher13 quote: ORIGINAL: bipolarber I actually think the fallacy is in the language of the OP's question. What makes you think that being M/s, or D/s is a "goal" oriented behavior? It just *is.* This approach of yours is about as wrong as thinking that the whole point to sex in general is nothing more than to give yourself and your partner multiple orgasms. (Nice when it happens, but it certainly shouldn't be the standard of measure to your relationship.) I practice this sort of thing because it's what I need in order to feel happy, and satisfied. My partner(s) over the years, I hope, have felt pretty much the same way. We relate to each other as Dom and sub, because we both find it enjoyable. It gets us off. What more do you really need? It is obvious my friend you have not been in a M/s relationship. There are goals, regiment, rules, it isn't just about feeding you or yours sado/maso desires and pleasures and play. It involves work and its about learning, training, growing with the result a dedicated slave who earns a collar at the end of a needle and ink and/or hot iron. Gregory "One man with courage is a majority" Thomas Jefferson Yeah yeah, we are all not as HARDCORE as you are...blah blah. No one knows anything but you...Seriously, Philo, why do you even ask questions? To get the pleasure of hearing yourself answer? And I'm sure you'll now act like a martyr and say I'm totally misunderstanding you...really, I've had enough of you trolling these boards. Why don't you start your bullshit someplace else, hmmm?

OrionTheWolf -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/11/2008 4:21:48 AM)
Someone with imagination could play golf, have a good time, and never follow the rules. The airplane analogy does not fit. It seems that it is more important to you to have rules and clear definitions, than just to enjoy for yourself what you create. If they use the word slave and it does not fit your definition, but someone else comes along and finds it okay, then why does it bother you so much? quote: ORIGINAL: Philosopher13 Try playing a sport like golf without rules or flying an aircraft without rules. There are hundreds or examples and golf for example wouldn't be worth playing without rules and flying an aircraft without rules would lead to a crash. There always should be basic rules so people with compatibility can find each other. What the two or so people do after that is all fine and dandy as my extrapolation on M/s is most definitely different than others but I do adhere to a basic set of constraints and rules to create that relationship from. My theory on why people don't like the idea of any rules placed on them is it is about ego. They like to use the word slave to describe themselves for ego purposes and so even if they don't fit the any basic criteria of what a slave is they feel like it validates them and gives them more worth. Gregory "One man with courage is a majority" Thomas Jefferson

Missokyst -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/11/2008 5:20:54 AM)
Yep. Not quite what he meant, but it fits. Kyst quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf then why does it bother you so much? quote: ORIGINAL: Philosopher13 it is about ego.

Lynnxz -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/11/2008 5:25:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Philosopher13 Try playing a sport like golf without rules or flying an aircraft without rules. There are hundreds or examples and golf for example wouldn't be worth playing without rules and flying an aircraft without rules would lead to a crash. There always should be basic rules so people with compatibility can find each other. What the two or so people do after that is all fine and dandy as my extrapolation on M/s is most definitely different than others but I do adhere to a basic set of constraints and rules to create that relationship from. My theory on why people don't like the idea of any rules placed on them is it is about ego. They like to use the word slave to describe themselves for ego purposes and so even if they don't fit the any basic criteria of what a slave is they feel like it validates them and gives them more worth. Gregory "One man with courage is a majority" Thomas Jefferson I've yet to see a sub flying at 4000 feet suddenly crash to the ground and burst into flames because she suddenly realized she was a slave.

Owner4SexSlave -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/11/2008 5:48:36 AM)
Well since in my personal view of D/s vs. M/s is based on the The Level of Authority. I would say, the goals would be no damn different really. For instance every slave in my personal opinion is a submissive, just the level of submission is higher. Dude, this is like asking... is Bud Light a real beer compared to Bud. Is Coors Light a real Beer compared to Coors? It's all one in the same friggen beer!! You can drink either! Also you question here is on par with somebody coming on to the message board, and asking WHAT SHOULD I TRAIN my sub/slave to be of service to me. One would have to figure out, things such as Service use, S&M play use, Sexual Use, Personal Assistent use. Some people have their sub/slave assisting them in their business. Some are sub/slaves stay at home and keep the house clean. Some Masters have the sub/slave out in the work force... Goals being varied from different people relationships. For instance I have no idea what the Goals of Philosopher13 are in life and for his relationships. Nobody here has any idea about your expectations, needs, wants and wishes out a slave are at all. I've expressed my opinion and view in terms of what defines D/s and M/s for me personally. I've also expressed on another threat that TPE (total authority transfer) does not happen over night. TPE is like anything else in life, it's a goal you set for the relationship and both people work on it. Also, not everybody wants nor seeks full and complete TPE either. Whew....

akisha -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/11/2008 10:58:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Philosopher13 quote: ORIGINAL: bipolarber I actually think the fallacy is in the language of the OP's question. What makes you think that being M/s, or D/s is a "goal" oriented behavior? It just *is.* This approach of yours is about as wrong as thinking that the whole point to sex in general is nothing more than to give yourself and your partner multiple orgasms. (Nice when it happens, but it certainly shouldn't be the standard of measure to your relationship.) I practice this sort of thing because it's what I need in order to feel happy, and satisfied. My partner(s) over the years, I hope, have felt pretty much the same way. We relate to each other as Dom and sub, because we both find it enjoyable. It gets us off. What more do you really need? It is obvious my friend you have not been in a M/s relationship. There are goals, regiment, rules, it isn't just about feeding you or yours sado/maso desires and pleasures and play. It involves work and its about learning, training, growing with the result a dedicated slave who earns a collar at the end of a needle and ink and/or hot iron. Gregory "One man with courage is a majority" Thomas Jefferson Wow. All I can say is I'm very happy Master and I do not have the same ideas as to what a relationship entails as you do. To each there own and all the best to what you seek, i am thankful diversity is so abundant in the world for if there was only one way to do things I'd be soo screwed lol

lally3 -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/11/2008 11:49:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AllietheKitten Gregory "One man with courage is a majority" Thomas Jefferson Yeah yeah, we are all not as HARDCORE as you are...blah blah. No one knows anything but you...Seriously, Philo, why do you even ask questions? To get the pleasure of hearing yourself answer? And I'm sure you'll now act like a martyr and say I'm totally misunderstanding you...really, I've had enough of you trolling these boards. Why don't you start your bullshit someplace else, hmmm? probably he did, which is why he's ended up here.... our luck that we're the someplace else.

akisha -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/11/2008 1:30:59 PM)
For Master and i our goals in our life together are to live the life we both desire, to learn from each other and enhance each others lives with in the dymanic that suits us. Our other goals... to buy a house, make a good home for our children and to have a dog and a cat S well ok my lil bit and i want that cat, and Master wants the dog lol Basically we want to be happy and be good people. What more is there?

subtee -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/11/2008 2:18:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Philosopher13 golf for example wouldn't be worth playing without rules That is complete bullshit. ~ten-putt Tee, whose game is called "Inconsistency."

OrionTheWolf -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/11/2008 4:04:22 PM)
I was just remembered going to a driving range at night with some friends. We were drinking beer, and I noticed just to the side a building, about 30 yards off the range. Upon closer inspection we realized it was a bank. We started hooking the ball to see which of us could hit it, and bonus points if the alarm went off. The manager of the range came up to us after a couple of times hitting it, and told us that we were not supposed to play like that. We laughed and said we were having a good time, but understood why he wanted to stay within the lines. quote: ORIGINAL: subtee quote: ORIGINAL: Philosopher13 golf for example wouldn't be worth playing without rules That is complete bullshit. ~ten-putt Tee, whose game is called "Inconsistency."

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/11/2008 4:07:20 PM)
The link posted was the "Ms vs Ds" thread I already mentioned, nothing about the goal of Ms vs Ds.

IrishMist -> RE: What is the goal of M/s vs. D/s? (8/11/2008 4:17:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross The link posted was the "Ms vs Ds" thread I already mentioned, nothing about the goal of Ms vs Ds. Come on LA; have you not figured out yet that he will not support/back up his own words here. [8D]

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