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LadyCompassion -> Privacy (11/19/2005 1:03:23 PM)
I was wondering how this issue is handled by others. What type of privacy would you give a sub or slave? Any at all? If you knew he/she was doing something online that you absolutely forbid, would you go into personal accounts to find proof for a proper confrontation? Or would you not even care about proof and confront him/her anyway?

fastlane -> RE: Privacy (11/19/2005 1:06:12 PM)
If I did not trust her, she would not be my slave.

jamesthehumanrug -> RE: Privacy (11/19/2005 1:14:06 PM)
what?lady compassion... "dismissed" you are always right maybe awarning to say this is a nono -period -, then dismissed if not corrected if it were me doing ,that, with a mistress ;which it would'nt ;im under the table shes at the computer or her accountant slaves ,or upgraders touch her computer. i'd be drop kicked ,into an installation -mostly there ,as a 24 /7 slave so what computer?! id be jumped on or locked in under someplace ,if valued ,so i can't answer ... i never touched a computer ,unless it was ,for ,or, to her ....or i was ,with a hostage, to be snufed mistress(snuf is a reality what could any of us ever really do) ,and, tried, to get communications ,out...only ,in a life ,or death situation. sorry never heard of it

mnottertail -> RE: Privacy (11/19/2005 2:23:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyCompassion What type of privacy would you give a sub or slave? Any at all? If you knew he/she was doing something online that you absolutely forbid, would you go into personal accounts to find proof for a proper confrontation? Or would you not even care about proof and confront him/her anyway? All the privacy they need. *NB: NEED not want. The stuff after the question marks. They bought the assumption and therefore the deal. Hence, the next part-- I forbid......forbid mind you.. I am your Master... You accept my governance....... Proof? What am I talking to a fucking lawyer? Unglue yourself..... They will need the proof that they did not. And god bless em if they dont get it right at that point. Forbid is a word that is generally understood. From there it is can't or won't. Can't is something to deal with........ Won't is a different deal. Dear LadyCompassion... I hope this makes sense. Ron (but that is my take)

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Privacy (11/19/2005 2:24:20 PM)
I am not a micromanager, and honestly, I am not interested in being anyone's mom, so being the internet police is just a trifle more than I am interested in doing. However, that method has come back to bite me in the past, and how did I find out? Femdom networking, of course! Why do so few men seem to understand that women talk to each other? Anyway, I found out that my boy was a seriously loose cannon, and I shut him down. Major rage on his part. Oh well. I don't think it's practical to keep tabs on someone's internet access, since the internet is everywhere now. What you can do, is announce yourself and who you own, so that others will see it, and act accordingly. A slave really doesn't have the right to privacy, according to my definition of slave---any privacy that person has is because I choose to give it. A submissive, especially one that is your mate, will have different restrictions, IMO. As Fastlane said, a person not trusted would not be in that position. I would not read a submissive's mail without permission, for instance. Ms Francine

Carameldomme -> RE: Privacy (11/19/2005 3:12:07 PM)
a submissive has a right to privacy, but in submitting to me has 'waived' that right. I wouldn't search for proof, I would confront him with what I know, or simply dismiss him. If he has lied already, I'm sure that in confronting him, he'd lie again- which would be more disappointing. I would never respect him again, and I can't be bothered with liars.

FelinePersuasion -> RE: Privacy (11/19/2005 4:15:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jamesthehumanrug Your writing style makes your posts incredibly difficult to read and as well comma's after every word is not nessisary. Word,word,word, just makes it messy

BrownCocoaBBW -> RE: Privacy (11/19/2005 5:25:58 PM)
That seems to be a complicated question. I agree with other's opinions that if you don't trust the slave then what's the point. I would not be interested in finding proof. I would confront the slave just to see the response. While I don't feel that a slave needs to have privacy, searching for evidence seems like a misuse of energy. Trust your instincts. If something is not right - move on. ~Ms Cherice

girl4you2 -> RE: Privacy (11/19/2005 10:50:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail All the privacy they need. *NB: NEED not want. The stuff after the question marks. They bought the assumption and therefore the deal. Hence, the next part-- I forbid......forbid mind you.. I am your Master... You accept my governance....... Proof? What am I talking to a fucking lawyer? Unglue yourself..... They will need the proof that they did not. And god bless em if they dont get it right at that point. Forbid is a word that is generally understood. From there it is can't or won't. Can't is something to deal with........ Won't is a different deal. Dear LadyCompassion... I hope this makes sense. Ron (but that is my take) wisdom in understood words. it's all in the subtleties.

theRose4U -> RE: Privacy (11/20/2005 12:20:54 PM)
He actually tattled on himself. He lost all of those personal accounts and almost me all in the same night. Lesson learned.A quarter in this instance made a better punishment than I ever imagined. He had to hold the quarter with his nose against a door support only 4" wide at a 45 degree angle for 15 minutes. If they drop the quarter time starts over but BE CAREFUL if they lock their knees for any long period passing out is an option. The whole time he had to explain himself and actions without dropping the coin. I agree that if trust is not there neither am I. With a novice unfortunatly the first time sometimes needs to set the instructional standard.

Cloudz -> RE: Privacy (11/20/2005 1:42:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fastlane If I did not trust her, she would not be my slave. In total agreement.

MsIce -> RE: Privacy (11/20/2005 6:17:59 PM)
Well I believe the idea is to keep them busy. I guess a lot of slaves and submissives have an ongoing fetish and fantasy type of personality, and if they are not gainfully employed this can grow bigger and bigger I have my slave completely focused, working for me, when he is not at his regular work. He is doing all sorts of things in the building and making arena that he has always wanted to do but was never motivated enough. I have no qualms about going into his email in front of him and checking out anything I like. He is after all my slave. Trust is a 2 way street

LadyAngelika -> RE: Privacy (11/20/2005 6:47:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyCompassion I was wondering how this issue is handled by others. What type of privacy would you give a sub or slave? Any at all? If you knew he/she was doing something online that you absolutely forbid, would you go into personal accounts to find proof for a proper confrontation? Or would you not even care about proof and confront him/her anyway? I trust my boy implicitly 100%. I don't need him to prove anything to me. If there is something that is unsettling to me, I talk to him about it. I make sure not to use accusatory words. I ask open-ended questions. It’s really all about communication. If he ever needed privacy on something, I would give him the space he needed to come around to discussing it with me. Though I have to say openness and honesty is a two-way street. I don’t keep anything from him neither. And to paraphrase Fastlane, if I didn’t trust him, he wouldn’t be my boy. And furthermore, if he didn’t trust me, I wouldn’t be his Lady. - LA

orfunboi -> RE: Privacy (11/22/2005 7:55:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jamesthehumanrug ;which it would'nt ;im under the table shes at the computer or her accountant slaves ,or upgraders touch her computer. i'd be drop kicked ,into an installation -mostly there ,as a 24 /7 slave so what computer?! id be jumped on or locked in under someplace ,if valued ,so i can't answer ... i never touched a computer ,unless it was ,for ,or, to her Never touch the computer, then why do i see your posts on here all the time....makes me wonder if your really being honest with us.

arione12 -> RE: Privacy (11/22/2005 8:26:58 AM)
I do like the answer "needed, not wanted"..even if my first thought was that no trust - no bdsm. Still, to feel that ones Owner CONTROLS you, make sure you know you are being watched and not able to get out. Sounds very scary and not sane at all, but done right, I can assure you it works like a dream. Very interesting indeed..smiles and dreams away

veronicaofML -> RE: Privacy (11/22/2005 5:34:07 PM)
Lady C======= "I" have zero privacy...She even has access to my bank......bathroom door shuts ONLY coz of the nose que..... but everything else in my life........including that i sleep on the floor....no closed doors..... i have NO privacy...at all. take care

LadyCompassion -> RE: Privacy (11/23/2005 10:25:16 AM)
Thank you all for the replies. I appreciate your advice and time.

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