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NuevaVida -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (8/13/2008 11:21:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Cuffkinks

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

I did not fear my former owner (except on two brief occasions which don't relate to your question).  However, when playing with knives, my fear - at first - came from my extreme phobia of knives.  Sure I trusted him, but the knife itself had terrifying effects on me, and to feel its blade up against my throat had me nearly hyperventillating.  When it was all over with, I was hot as hell, BECAUSE it was my Master who did it.  It made me feel his power and strength and I loved that he could terrify me like that, using my vulnerability to do so.

There were also times when what he was doing with the knife scared me, because accidents do happen, even to the best of us.  What if I flinched and...well...there goes a nipple?  When he would press its tip into sensitive areas, it HURT and I never did like pain, so that put fear into me.  And then there was the time he inserted it, blade first.  Yeah, that was kinda scary, even in his hands.

Other times he would put me in such physically painful situations and then, while in incredible pain, have me crawl across the floor, or jump up and down, or do any other sort of excruciatingly painful movement.  In those cases, I would be afraid to move.  It wasn't a fear of him, it was a fear of what my body would feel.

Finally, he put me through some other exercises that were mentally anguishing to me, and I would seriously believe my mind was about to crack.  Those were frightening because, while HE knew how much I could endure, I didn't have such faith in myself.  And sure, while I did trust that if he knew I could handle it then I could handle it, human instinct - survival tendancies, I suppose - would kick in and leave me trembling from the inside out.

I hope those examples help...?


Certainly helped Me.
(Had to do it.)


Yay! Thanks! [:D]



chiaThePet -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (8/13/2008 12:19:24 PM)

 
I've eaten at Taco Bell and survived.

Not much to fear after that.

chia* (the pet)



sirsholly -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (8/13/2008 12:22:26 PM)

i could never submit to someone i feared.



LittleWench -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (8/13/2008 4:29:14 PM)

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It’s a very good question; a bit unfair though for those of us who do not plan scenes and yet can relate to what you are asking.


I did consider that when I formulated the parameters to my question, that impromptu scenes occur which adds a little more of a wildcard into the mix.  What I was specifically looking for though was planned scenes, where the Dom/me was under complete control of his faculties, no anger, no emotional turmoil, if it was punishment then they had moved past any emotions that they had and were performing the play in a controlled environment.

The questioned originally stemmed from a post where Dom/mes described doing public scenes that involved activities that were potentially fatal, and expecting the sub to have a geniune fear reaction, however I didn't want to limit my question to just that scenario.



IrishMist -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (8/14/2008 6:13:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LittleWench

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It’s a very good question; a bit unfair though for those of us who do not plan scenes and yet can relate to what you are asking.


I did consider that when I formulated the parameters to my question, that impromptu scenes occur which adds a little more of a wildcard into the mix.  What I was specifically looking for though was planned scenes, where the Dom/me was under complete control of his faculties, no anger, no emotional turmoil, if it was punishment then they had moved past any emotions that they had and were performing the play in a controlled environment.

The questioned originally stemmed from a post where Dom/mes described doing public scenes that involved activities that were potentially fatal, and expecting the sub to have a geniune fear reaction, however I didn't want to limit my question to just that scenario.


I did not want you to think that I did not see your response here. I was going to answer with another question but that would have completely derailed the thread; it's an interesting one and I did not want to do that. Either way, thanks for the response.



sillyslaveboy -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (8/14/2008 7:16:16 AM)

At the OP
First off, i can't recall when a Miss did something really bad or non-consensual to me. But most of time there was fear, yet of another sort.

As a part of life, i had to play a girl servant that's scared of her Mistress or failing Her, and does not try to hide that. The most important part of the play was to make this imaginary fear looks real in everyday life, which for me also turned out to be also 'feels real', whether rational or not. With the time i ceased to distinguish real fear (sometimes there was reason) from the imaginary one. Conversations like:

- "Why you are so trembling before me?"
- "Because Your might crush me with Your feet, Miss."

Became totally natural. i believed fully in what i was speaking. And i do enjoy thinking of how nicely reeducated i was. :)



lizcgirl -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (8/14/2008 12:52:44 PM)

I'm not afraid of my Master at all on a physical level. At one point in time He ordered me to put my hands on the arm of a chair and not move them, no matter what He did to me. He played around, spanking me with various items, and then He felt a little more diabolical and pulled out His lighter. I heard Him light it and I didn't flinch or move in the slightest. He was amused and a little shocked that I didn't flinch, so He asked me why. There are a lot of reasons it didn't phase me, the one He found the most amusing was when I told Him he enjoyed my body as it is too much to cause damage to His possession. Since then He'll attempt to be 'scary' by telling me to give Him my hand when he has a knife or something like that but my response is always the same- a grin and I do as I'm told. But when I'm in trouble and about to be punished, I am a little afraid because even though I know He won't do anything that will harm me on a permenant basis, He WILL punish me to the point of pain. I wouldn't hesitate to do knife play or anything like that, but I don't think it would be fear that would make my heart race, more just excitement really. I know the how far He'll go and I'm comfortable with that totally.  



porcelain26 -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (8/15/2008 1:55:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: softness

I am terrified of what He might make me live through.



This is a perfect explanation for my own feelings as well.

I trust my Owner without reservation; and I've said before (and will continue to say) that because I trust Him the way I do, I have no limits whatsoever with Him. I know He has no interest in damaging me - afterall, broken toys are no fun to play with. That being said, I'm still terrified of the Man. Not because I think He will cause me actual harm, but because He knows me so well. He knows just exactly how far He can push me and just exactly what He can do to me before I will actually break, and He loves taking me 'sky diving' around those boundries.

Oh yeah, and I second whoever said they're toast if someone introduces a spider *shudders* I HATE SPIDERS!



AnakaSilk -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (9/5/2008 9:14:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Quivver

I dont fear guns, knives, or power tools. 
But let some bastard come at me with a flippin spider and I'm TOAST. 



Thank you so much for that comment. I have been sitting here giggling for, well, quite some time now.[sm=applause.gif]

I am so TOTALLY in agreement with you. (Although in my case, you could probably substitute just about any insect - not just spiders.) I really enjoy knife play, as it happens. But I have ultimate trust in my M, and knowing he will not *intentionally* hurt me keeps me from panicking.

Never considered power tools though... which is only ironic since my M is a general contractor.



OsideGirl -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (9/6/2008 8:31:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LittleWench


If you are not afraid of your Dom/me, where does the fear in knife/gun play come from for you?  Is it fear of death?  If so, why?  Is it fear of pain?  Is it fear of something accidentally going wrong?  If it is neither of these... where does the fear stem from?
A lot of shootings happen by accident. The person that pulls the trigger is someone that the victim trusted. Accidents happen, why tempt fate?

I treat dangerous items with respect and don't toy with them. This keeps me safe.

We actually do knife play, just no cutting because I'm a bleeder and I don't feel like replacing the couch, the carpets, the bedding, etc.



favesclava -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (9/7/2008 6:23:43 AM)

i trust Him with my life. i do get scared i dont know how far He will go. but thats what makes the play so yummy



SirLordspet -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (9/14/2008 3:47:59 PM)

i am not at all afraid of my Master.. However i most certainly do have phobias that some would find quite silly.. i am TERRIFIED of being tied up.... whereas there are many out there that love that... so to me being tied up is a kind of edge play because it terrifies me so much.  Knives.. i really don't think i would find them terrifying as i trust my Sir.. guns.. well that is a different story.. just the site of one makes me want to run.



RCdc -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (9/14/2008 3:51:43 PM)

Yes you are misunderstanding.
The search function is your friend.  A bit like google, only kinkier.
 
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secretsubnova -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (9/15/2008 8:19:57 PM)

I'm not afraid of him as a person... but he knows how to scare me out of my mind.  He does so with the utmost regard for my safety but I assure you I am not thinking about that while he's beating me to (what seems like) within an inch of my life. When it's all done I know he was looking out for me the whole time and I'll smile and ask him when we can do it again. :-) We play fairly rough (probably a little too rough for most people but I can't seem to get enough of it).  And best of all he'll choke me until I'm sure I'm within seconds of death.  I never am but it sure feels that way when you keep trying to breathe and are completely unable to do so... panic sets in and I'll try anything I can to get away from him but it never works, he easily over powers me and when he's ready I'll get air again, and while it may not seem so to me, in a state of oxygen deprived panic, he's keeping close watch on my safety the whole time.  So really, it's the great illusion he manages to create, an illusion that I should be in fear of serious bodily harm or fear for my life... the logical side of me has no such worry, I know he would never let anything happen to me but that logic seems to disappear with enough pain and overpowering.  As far as gun or knife play, he doesn't need either to instill in fear into me but in my opinion both are great props for a fun scene as long as you're capable and competent in handling them and they are used with everyone's safety in mind.  I'm well aware some of what I have described is not acceptable to everyone here but it works great for me and those involved are consenting, educated adults who enjoy playing on the edge.



Deliena -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (9/16/2008 10:43:27 AM)

i am not scared of Master, but i do enjoy 'mind fuck' games that cause me to be frightened of what He might do next.  It's a nice balance between having an amazing man and a sadistic bastard <grins happily>



BumbleBee2MsP -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (9/16/2008 11:13:30 AM)

As long as the trust level was present, the fear was good. The fear of pain both emotional and extreme physical was always present. and produced a level of adrenaline and endorphins that is as addictive as any other drug.  And the fact that my Mistress was in control of the release of those substances in my body was another part of my submission to Her Power.  Even after reading that She should never have used electricity above the waist (because of heart stoppages)) after She had already used Her P.E.S. on my nipples, i still longed for more. She also has some strap-ons that are very scary to look at, (huge ugly things) And even after feeling the pain of Her entering me in anger, She always left me wanting it again.  As long as i trusted Her, the fear only added to the excitement of submitting to Her will.  But after the trust was lost, i lost the desire to serve in any way.  The fear just added to the mistrust until i finally told Her that i chose not to be Her slave, i was done serving Her.  If there is no way to rebuild the trust there can be no real relationship of any kind.



Shylahgirl -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (9/16/2008 12:46:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LittleWench

I have a question about fear for subs who are into edge play, specifically knife/gun play, where the implication with play is that your death could be the final outcome.

For the purpose of this question a Dom/me is someone you have been in a long term relationship with, know intimate details about their personality (including past) and trust implicitly.  I am not interested in the tales of subs who take risks with unknown Dom/mes, because the fear there is obvious.  Likewise, for the purpose of this question, a scene is a set activity conducted under the normal "rules" of scening, that is your Dom/me is not intoxicated with either drugs or alcohol, they do not have a mental illness, nor are they scening while angry.

Are you afraid of your Dom/me?  Has your Dom/me proven that they are capable of causing cold and calculated grevious bodily (fatal) harm to another individual, perhaps in past actions that you have been witness to, or know to be proven that they are capable of such actions (ie a jail record or professional occupation).

If you are not afraid of your Dom/me, where does the fear in knife/gun play come from for you?  Is it fear of death?  If so, why?  Is it fear of pain?  Is it fear of something accidentally going wrong?  If it is neither of these... where does the fear stem from?

I am incredibly curious about this.  I do not fear my Owner.  He does not have the potential to cause me grevious bodily harm whilst under the control of his faculties (the normal rules of scening).  He could take out a knife and run it over my body, threaten me with it, and whilst I might be a bit apprehensive about being cut, there is no fear to be felt, he will not harm me.

I am truly at a loss to understand this reaction, so I am grateful for any replies to help me do so :)



I love terror play... especially fear of loosing my life. I love giving over that power to my Master, both my former and current Masters have played with me in this intense form. I do not fear the person them selves. The play actually gives me more trust and more love for them when it's all over.

When we are engaged in a terror scene I am afraid of the thoughts and instinctual reactions going through my own mind.

If you fear the person them self.. if you are afraid that your Master/Mistress will cause you real harm then you should not play with or serve them.

There is one person who I played with, terror pay, and continued to fear after the scene was over... I have issues with looking this person in the eye, being alone in a room with him, and doing anything with this person when instructed to. I would never serve this person due to my fear of him. I should note that everything this person did to me was psychological I was in no way physically harmed.

Fear of the person indicates a sever lack of trust. You must have trust for the person you serve.

Shylah



servantheart -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (9/17/2008 1:06:41 PM)

Sir is very capable of inflicting fatal harm on someone (those details must necessarily come from Him alone).  We occasionally engage in knife play.  The odd thing is that, while I'm terrified of knives (I've had recurring nightmares over the years in which I am stabbed to death in my home by an unknown intruder), I am unafraid when He uses them on me during play.  I know that He could easily kill me with His knife, but I have no fear that He would do so.  I do get a thrill when I consider that the decision whether I live or die is utterly His.  The only thing I fear of Sir is His displeasure.  
 
 



xFreakOnALeashx -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (9/18/2008 2:33:16 AM)

I tried knifeplay for the first time with my new partner recentley and I must admit I was a little scared. I have had knives used before so this wasn't necessarily a new experince for me.
As to why I was scared I'm not sure. I trusted him enough to suggest doing it, so I had every confidence that he was capable, pain isn't something that fears me in the slightest so I wasn't scared of it hurting, nor was I scared of him cutting too deep or in an obvious place, I wasn't scared that the play could be fatal or anything along the lines of that.
I think maybe my fear came from it being a new experince with him, rather than fear of the play itself.
Come to think about it, it may have been more nerves than fear.
Plus the knife used wasn't massively dangerous... although I am eager to experiment more



boytoyinatlanta -> RE: Are you afraid of your Dom/me? (9/30/2008 8:14:50 PM)

i was afraid when  i first started doing edgeplay...i don't feel that way anymore..but it would be nice to feel that fear again...makes you feel so alive



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