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Antipiracy Campaign Exasperates Colleges - 8/13/2008 3:29:59 PM

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http://chronicle.com/free/v54/i49/49a00104.htm

fascinating read. RIAA is clogging up staff time. it also is lobbying congress to filter all universty net. this is a strange but predicted turn of events.

as a result colleges might go to a no record of IP system. also it says by law it can not forward letter to students. that the riaa has bombarded them with pretrial lettters.
so if i wanted to contact john doe at abc university- all i gots to do is put a RIAA return adress?

lol
anyhow the brew thickens. clogging the university net would clog more important files then music. how dare they lobby congress for this. and yet the colleges assisted in this crackdown. had they refused.. hmmm what do you think? $3000-$5000 to "pre-settle"? Why pays the clerk to process. all the letter?

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RE: Antipiracy Campaign Exasperates Colleges - 8/13/2008 4:36:23 PM

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http://chronicle.com/free/v54/i49/49a00104.htm

fascinating read. RIAA is clogging up staff time. it also is lobbying congress to filter all universty net. this is a strange but predicted turn of events.

as a result colleges might go to a no record of IP system. also it says by law it can not forward letter to students. that the riaa has bombarded them with pretrial lettters.
so if i wanted to contact john doe at abc university- all i gots to do is put a RIAA return adress?

lol
anyhow the brew thickens. clogging the university net would clog more important files then music. how dare they lobby congress for this. and yet the colleges assisted in this crackdown. had they refused.. hmmm what do you think? $3000-$5000 to "pre-settle"? Why pays the clerk to process. all the letter?

Hilarious. They're wasting more and more money, while distribution methods start to bypass them entirely. People in general are also slowly getting more and more pissed off. Boycotting buying music in general sometimes. Which of course just increases piracy one would think. They're also funneling more money towards the scaremonger corporations designed to track down pirates. Without of course any real justification of how much money they're losing. When it comes down to it, if I download a song, would I have bought that music in the first place? Probably not. With the advent of myspace (bands putting up their music on their pages), net radio, youtube music videos, etc. I can pretty much access any song I want as long as I'm sitting at a computer with internet access. Without pirating it at all.

That they've tried to push all of this crap on the ISP's, raising the rates everyone has to pay for everything (including tuition probably seeing as it's becoming the full time staff jobs of people at universities). They're very very scared.

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RE: Antipiracy Campaign Exasperates Colleges - 8/13/2008 5:23:34 PM

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the "corporations" prefer that we isolate down to a household of 1. so an old household of 4 or 6, now they can sell 6 cable packages, 6 LPs, 6 cell plans.....so the idea is to keep us divided. even if it means fearmongering.

the industry screwed over some like Elvis -etc.

in general this is the commoditizatrion of public property. caveman beat on drums... indians did just fine before the europeans stepped up on shore.

the thing is- the industry wasnt content with a reasonable cut of the action for distrubuting.

the kicker is that as long as the people PAY for "services" --- the more it encourages THAT bussines model.

Look at cable websites. telecoms- they dont want to sell a bare bones package. it isnt even on the website. they want to sell a tripple play.

caller ID costs about a penny to offer.

text messages cost about a nickle. buy hurry and buy a "package" gosh- heavy forbid that I ask the person standing next to me to phone a tow truck per break down.

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RE: Antipiracy Campaign Exasperates Colleges - 8/13/2008 5:28:44 PM

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I did my final research project at college on music piracy (though I touched on movies, games and other content also). My conclusion: piracy benefits consumers and artists. Attempts to crack down on piracy harm consumers and artists. Piracy only hurts record companies. Record companies did not used to exist, they need not exist, and are in fact on their way out.

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RE: Antipiracy Campaign Exasperates Colleges - 8/13/2008 8:51:54 PM

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I did my final research project at college on music piracy (though I touched on movies, games and other content also). My conclusion: piracy benefits consumers and artists. Attempts to crack down on piracy harm consumers and artists. Piracy only hurts record companies. Record companies did not used to exist, they need not exist, and are in fact on their way out.

The flaw in that argument is that record companies also hurt artists.

When a record company feels that their bottom line is hurting because of piracy, do you think that the CEOs and boards of directors and shareholders all agree to take a hefty reduction in pay?

Or do you think that the companies slash funding for new artist development, niche music, and so forth?

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RE: Antipiracy Campaign Exasperates Colleges - 8/13/2008 10:28:11 PM

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Or do you think that the companies slash funding for new artist development, niche music, and so forth?

....this is true. However it is perfectly arguable that it is also becoming irrelevant. The rise of the new media, public access to it, the ways humans keep finding to use these technologies is tending to push the record companies out of the equation. The one thing they used to have going for them was an almost total monopoly on the means of distribution. That grip has been significently loosened, if not actually disengaged.

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RE: Antipiracy Campaign Exasperates Colleges - 8/13/2008 10:38:11 PM

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No easy answers... without the record companies serfdom, new artists are left to not only try to make a living at their art, but also become exceedingly proficient business persons, taking over marketing, publicity, bookkeeping, logistical and other duties(which some might argue dim the creative fires), while competing for customers against the millions of people out there with homemade CDs.
Yes those tasks can still be farmed out, but the A&R gatekeepers at least gave some people a leg up by putting them in front of the 'starmakers'.

No doubt that the RIAA dinosaur is dying before its brain realizes its legs are gone, but I'm not so sanguine about the future.

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RE: Antipiracy Campaign Exasperates Colleges - 8/14/2008 4:39:37 AM

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add in the Payola scandal.

the premise that they produce and distrirbute the best and most talent- trashed.

payola was bribing certain songs to play in the 80s. drugs were the "reward"

Il love to read your paper on piracy. Is it online?

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RE: Antipiracy Campaign Exasperates Colleges - 8/14/2008 4:44:12 AM

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The Payola scandal was the 1950's, and it involved radio stations shaking down the artist's reps. The 80s was club owners and PfP.
And nobody said anything about the best, just that some people were able to get picked out of the crowd.

The simple fact is that that talent is literally a dime a dozen, and people take advantageof that fact. I played last night on Beale Street, where the Merchant's Association has capped the amount they will pay a band, because they know they can get a dozen bands competing to play the same club on any given night, no matter how low the pay goes.

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RE: Antipiracy Campaign Exasperates Colleges - 8/14/2008 6:02:22 AM

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those same people insist to see your musician union card.

big biz wants smash cross selling. so they can sell all together.

talent is a dime a 12, then that in itself renders the RIAA obsolete. no longer are expensive studios need.

Lps and 45 rpm stores had to close in the name of progress. VHS tape rental is on its way out.

ya know= I hardly notice the TV service gone. $65 month not spent. A prepaid cell works so as to set up meetings to family out of state...no more $42 a month. I dropped the call pack, for landline. brings bill $6ish down from 9.

im getting away from as much "service plans" as possible.

I do enjoy the net- so I will pay that,

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RE: Antipiracy Campaign Exasperates Colleges - 8/14/2008 4:22:28 PM

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Nobody outside of maybe Vegas or NYC cares if you are union or not for club work...

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