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RE: Troops give 6 times as much money to Obama - 8/14/2008 1:28:45 PM   
Thadius


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Middle class?

Most of us.

I hope he taxes the rich,as Clinton did.

They, for the most part,are responsible for the financially ruinous adventure in Iraq.They should pay for it.

It certainly shouldn`t be passed on to our kids,as McCorporatewellfare wants to do.



What income bracket is middle class??  What do you define as rich?

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RE: Troops give 6 times as much money to Obama - 8/14/2008 1:44:02 PM   
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Here,I`ll throw ya`ll a bone.

You can always say that this is because Obama is soooooo popular and so then,discount this as meaningless.

It might help you sleep better and might improve the stuck BMs in your guts.

No need to thank me.My pleasure.


Owner, I think it's funny as hell that you now "like" Obama seeing as three or four months ago you were bad-mouthing him and singing Hillary's praises! lol!
What was it, the "doubling" of foreign aid or the chance at "World Citizenship" that pushed you over the edge?

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RE: Troops give 6 times as much money to Obama - 8/14/2008 3:01:09 PM   
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"Tell me what part you disagree with:
1. The stats show that troops abroad far prefer candidates who want peace in Iraq.
2. Obama is generally regarded as the candidate who is more likely to bring peace to Iraq.
3. Troops abroad give 6 times as much to Barack Obama as to John "100 years" McCain"


1. Well, first of all, every "American" wants peace in Iraq.  No one "wants" war.  That's silly.  Of
course the soldiers over there want peace in Iraq, that's their mission..to bring some measure
of stability between factions that have been at each other since 1540!  Is it going to be peace like
in the USA...of course not.   The suo ccess of our troops that we have seen, despite all the undermining
of efforts from Pelosi, Murth, and the idiot Majority Leader for over a year, makes it possible....difficult
but possible.  No one is in a dream world here.  This is a difficult task and the "I want an instant solution"
gang is gonna be disappointed.

2.  Obama is preferred as the candidate who is naieve and inexperienced enough to believe that we can extricate
ourselves from one of the most important strategic areas in the world, go home, and sing songs with a flower stuck
in the barrel of a weapon.  Give me a break!  He is the preferred candidate of defeatists that have no clue as to the
meaning and danger to the USA from world wide expansion of Jihad over the past two decades. Even 9/11 when for
the first time our country was hit direcetly, has not been a call to wake up for these folk.

3.  Troops abroad give six times yada yada yada..  Really silly time here.  You have to understand that we have a very
large number of black men serving our country in the military.  I would love to see the breakdown of money given along
ethnic lines.  If I was black I would probably be sending money to Obama myself.  Even if I disagreed, as I do, with the
qualifications of Obama to take on the responsibility for my family and my country given his lack of experience, I would
probably send him money in support.  The major good thing I see in the Obama candidacy is that we should all be proud
of the fact that a black man can win the nomination of a major political party.  It truly is a historic and  positive moment for the country.  On the other hand, he is not qualified for the job, and that would be true if he was white, brown, yellow or red.
Ms. Ferrara was correct.  He was made by the press who fell all over him and won him the nominatio.  The liberal media made no attempt to vet Obama..how do you vet a black guy, ..and they are lucky that Jermiah, and Ayeres and the criminal
in Chicago, along with that lunatic priest all occured not before Iowa, and after he had a lock on the votes.
 Obama is not Colin Powell in terms of experience.  He has never written anything profound legislatively, has not sponsored in writing any important legislation, has never run anything...even his household budget I am sure Michelle runs.  It's like making the mail boy Chairman of General Electric.  If it would never happen in the corporate world, why should it make sense in government? Oh..and how about that guy who was convicted. Another close friend.  Birds of a feather..ya know!
I won't even dwell on Michelle...enough will be said about her over the next two months to fill a library.  A truly bitter person she..and those aren't my words...just read her speeches.

Anyway...those are my thoughts...and hey, I could be wrong...   LOL


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RE: Troops give 6 times as much money to Obama - 8/14/2008 3:19:05 PM   
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Guys, you are arguing with brick walls. Believe me, I've tried. These guys still think that Bush was a good idea! They are 23%ers. No amount of evidence, no scandal of criminal activity, no rape of the Constitution of these United States of America, will sway them from thinking that McCain is the Son of God. (Actually he is, but of which God is the unasked question. I'm betting Loki, or possibly Vishnu.)

As they say, you are wrestling with pigs. And it's no use. You get dirty, and the pigs like it.

The really horrible thing is, we'll have to put up with four to eight years of them bitching at every little decision Obama makes as President.

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RE: Troops give 6 times as much money to Obama - 8/14/2008 3:24:03 PM   
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The chief reason that troops are giving 6x more to Obama is that they are working at (albeit treacherous) very steady, well paying jobs.

I wouldn't read too much more than that into it.

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RE: Troops give 6 times as much money to Obama - 8/14/2008 3:41:27 PM   
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Um... okay...
So why aren't they spending more of that combat pay on McCain then? If your logic were true, 6, wouldn't they be supporting the candidate that would keep them so well employed for the rest of thier lives... and their childrens lives...and their grandchildrens lives... and....

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RE: Troops give 6 times as much money to Obama - 8/14/2008 3:44:14 PM   
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Did you miss that we are talking about only 330 ish contributions?  Hardly a sampling to draw any conclussions either way.

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RE: Troops give 6 times as much money to Obama - 8/14/2008 3:55:58 PM   
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Interesting numbers...

In a poll listed in the Military Times- "60 percent of the respondents identified themselves as Republicans, which is about double the population as a whole. But in this year’s poll, only 46 percent of the military respondents said they were Republicans. However, there was not a big gain in those identifying themselves as Democrats — a figure that consistently hovers around 16 percent. The big gain came among people who said they were independents.

Similarly, when asked to describe their political views on a scale from very conservative to very liberal, there was a slight shift from the conservative end of the spectrum to the middle or moderate range. Liberals within the military are still a rare breed, with less than 10 percent of respondents describing themselves that way.”

I'm ex-military and am still very closely associated with the military. Those that believe our military is ready to jump on board with Obama are very under-informed in this area. The Republicans have a very strong record of supporting troops in ways that a civilian couldn't possibly wrap their minds around unless they have experienced it in the most personal of ways. Most military members I know that are  registered independents are because they do not like the partisan BS. Most still place themselves on the conservative side of the range. There are plenty of Bush  whackers out there that may get Obama in but those numbers do not include high numbers from our troops.

Dolf

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RE: Troops give 6 times as much money to Obama - 8/14/2008 4:23:15 PM   
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RE: Troops give 6 times as much money to Obama - 8/14/2008 5:00:34 PM   
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I couldn't agree with you more Dorf.   And me and my family appreciate your service and the service today of so many wonderful men and woman in our voluntary service.  Frankly, I hope the draft does come back.  There was a draft when I
was a kid and it made adults out of boys.  I was in during Nam but did not go overseas.  It was the liberal, ill informed media propaganda that cost us victory in that war...and the children of those people are now leading the way towards defeat in Iraq.  We had that war won after Tet...and the media destroyed the will of the american public to fight. 
Heck.. I'm getting too serious here..going back to "Ask a Mistress" and "Ask a slave" forums....LOL

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