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StrongSpirit -> How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 10:08:16 AM)

Feel free to add rules here.

1.   Understand your goals.  If you don't know what you are looking for, the only thing you should look for is new experiences.   Hopefully you will find what you desire by exploring new things.

2.  Describe what you want.  Specifically use good descriptions. The words "True", "Real", "Natural" are NOT helpful.  They mean different things to different people.  Instead try words like "Pain", "Roleplayer", "Foot", "Breast", "Oral", "Obedient", "Disobedient", "Pee", etc. etc.   Be specific. 

3. Put in NON-sexual things.  Unless you are just looking for a one-night stand, chances are you want more than a sex toy.  

4. Rank your requirements.  If the thing you care most about is personality, put that first.  Do not forget to include things like "Employed",  "Not a convict", etc.  Note, the ranking is very important, particularly if you are looking for something that every else is looking for (Hint:  80% of men want a thin female.  90% of women want a tall man.)  The higher on the list the 'mass desired' thing is, the hard it will be to find a person that fits your other desires.

5. Describe yourself.   You need to honestly describe who you are.  You can highlight the advantages, but don't lie about the disadvantages.  Specifically tell the truth about weight, age, height, gender.   Putting down what you wish you were only works if you never meet the person.   Yes, many men will ignore you if you are the wrong age, weight, gender.  Yes, many women will ignore you if you are the wrong age, height, gender.   It is unfortunate, but we all can't be 18 year old, tall, thin lesbian millionaires.   No, surgery can not really fix it. (Fake breasts are nice to look at, but they don't feel nice.  Weight comes back.)

6.  Put yourself out there and look.  If you don't contact other people, you have no one but yourself to blame.  This specifically means that dominant women should be contacting men.  Honestly, a smart submissive women would do better to seek out and contact men as well, but they at least have a better excuse.  If you wait for other people to contact you, then THEIR requirements will be met, but your's won't. Not even if a thousand men are contacting you, because obviously they are not the right man.

7.  If still having trouble, REDO your requirements.  Specifically, if you are repeating rejecting people for being too much of a  jerk, then move "NOT A JERK" higher on your list of requirements.  This means moving other things down.  As in, accept a woman/man that is uglier, shorter, older, fatter, etc.




RCdc -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 10:13:08 AM)

I never looked for the perfect master.  That would be a pointless objective.  I desired to be with a person who was willing to grow with me, as well as despite me.
 
Confine yourself to set rules and you risk missing out on something unique and probably something you never realised you needed.  The only thing you need is common sense, if you have that, lists and rules have no baring.
 
the.dark.




NeedingMore220 -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 10:13:15 AM)

How about .. be flexible.  Be willing to relax your requirements is you click with someone.  Rely on your instincts about a person as to whether you are compatible - be willing to chuck the list to discover if something that feels really right is right for you. 

Understanding your goals can be very difficult when starting out.  Lots of newbies don't have a clue what it is they're looking for, without the physical experiences and without talking with a lot of people, doms/subs/switches, etc.  Reading and researching can fill in some of the gaps, but little is a stand-in for RT experience.

I also agree with the.dark here - the word 'perfect' doesn't sit well with me.  Perfection is highly overrated and boring to boot.  [;)]




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 10:14:45 AM)

8. stop looking - looking never works.




azropedntied -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 11:31:52 AM)

step one - find domme step two interact with her , step three  it moves forward  or repeat step one . ^5 faery is better to be the one  found than to be lost in a search . 




mztresn0w -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 11:58:08 AM)

Why look for perfection? There are so many jewels in the rough that just need the right person to help them become the best they can be. That applies to both sides. As for myself, I havve found that when you stop looking someone walks into your life that was meant to be there. 




Lockit -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 12:07:51 PM)

Think outside the box, even your own.  Be positive, gaining personal strength in knowing who you are and living true to that and never accept anything that prevents living true to who you are.  Look for the fun in life, without denying the more serious.  Don't be afraid to break rules.




Thadius -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 1:22:58 PM)

9. Remember to use the right bait for the trap... chocolate and cheesecake help when hunting the female types..




DomDolf -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 1:40:41 PM)

Recognize, there are different views and there may be valid reasons for those views. Be open minded enough to listen.

Listen to your heart and mind more than your hormones, no matter how loud they scream.

Be prepared to be challenged intellectually.

If a person cannot intellectually challenge you decide how important it is.

A dominant is not always perfect. Accept that before you begin looking.

If you are a dominant... Be a leader. Accept that you have faults and admit them to yourself, change them as you can.

My thought on 'perfect': Perfection will never be achieved, the desire to achieve it should never be abandoned, the perfect person will have flaws and you should embrace them as an artist embraces a blank canvas. While your canvas may present challenges it should not be TRYING to challenge you.

Dolf.




E2Sweet -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 2:29:34 PM)

#. Describe what you have to offer or can bring to the table.

#. Follow through when you make an online connection that is about to turn into a first r/l meeting.




azropedntied -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 2:37:45 PM)

no such thing as perfection ,you can come close . besides that i would not wish to wait to see if perfection is ever found , better  luck  finding a yetti VS perfection .





faerytattoodgirl -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 2:51:06 PM)

quote:

chocolate and cheesecake


wrong...

chocolate
pizza
diet pepsi
diamonds
gold
wear leather






pyrobabe -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 3:10:52 PM)

There is always perfectly fine. Your imperfections make you perfect. If you didn't have them you'd be somebody else... and what fun would that be?

Also most well trained slaves are a reflection of their Master/Mistress so it stands to reason if they have a perfect Master/Mistress they are a perfect slave.




stella41b -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 3:42:21 PM)

1. The biggest single barrier preventing you from success and happiness in relationships is desire for perfection.

2. Relationships aren't covered in insurance policies or come with money back guarantees for a reason.

3. Don't be a slave to your heart. Love invites, enslavement to the heart begs.

4. You cannot find love. All you can find is the opportunity to love, love is what develops afterwards.

5. Kindness comes before kink in both the dictionary and the relationship.




GreedyTop -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 4:02:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Thadius

9. Remember to use the right bait for the trap... chocolate and cheesecake help when hunting the female types..


unless the female doesnt LIKE chocolate... then find a suitable substitute (motorcycles or beer work for me, for instance..LOL)




GreedyTop -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 4:05:21 PM)

Stella.. as always... YOU ROCK!!




Vendaval -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 4:16:18 PM)

Throw down the pedestals and the doctrine of infallibility and the immaculate Dom/me perfection.  Remember that you are fallible, flawed human beings first and foremost.  Have an awareness both of humility and a sense of humor about yourselves.  Be willing and able to admit mistakes, ask forgiveness and to right your wrongs. 
Go from talking the talk to walking the walk.


Aerosmith - Run/DMC
"Walk this Way"
 
"So I took a big chance at the high school dance
With a missy who was ready to play
Was it me she was foolin
cause she knew what she was doin
When she told me how to walk this way
She told me to

Walk this way, talk this way
Walk this way, walk this way
Walk this way, walk this way
Walk this way, talk this way
Just give me a kiss - like this!"



(grammar edit)




Thadius -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 4:21:38 PM)

Now, for a random zen moment.

The individual flaws are what make each of us perfect.  Just like a snowflake, or cherry blossom.




Vendaval -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 5:26:09 PM)

Precisely, Thadius.  Our flaws are what make us interesting, in a way, our flaws define and shape us. 
I am accutely aware that flaws present challenges and obstacles to overcome, whether in myself or others.  

(Now if someone keeps hiding the remote or stealing the covers or snoring too loud...the "overcoming" of certain "imperfections" can well be adjusted with a bit of discipline.  My house, my rules, no negotiation! ) [8D]



quote:

ORIGINAL: Thadius

Now, for a random zen moment.

The individual flaws are what make each of us perfect.  Just like a snowflake, or cherry blossom.




shivermetimbers -> RE: How to find the perfect master, sub, switch (8/16/2008 6:12:58 PM)

Sometimes, the perfect one for you is found by chance.  It's not always search and send, wait for a reply, then repeat.  You never know who you may find quite accidentally, so never casually cast away anyone that you find an interest in, even if on the surface, you don't think you would be a match. Take a chance, you may find they are the perfect one.




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