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Which tastes better? - 8/17/2008 6:00:58 PM

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My master decided it's time to train me as a puppy and has asked me to choose a brand of dog food. So...... which tastes better? Kibbles 'n bits or Alpo??

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/17/2008 6:06:19 PM

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Most dog food is not safe for human consumption - just so you know. ^_^

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/17/2008 6:08:27 PM

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I was a puppy for a while. I tried some dog foods and couldn't keep any of them down. They're all disgusting in my opinion. We ended up using canned tuna, beef stew, corned beef hash, and cut up spam. They all look (and sometimes smell) like dog food but they're healthier for you and taste better. The spam is really salty though and the tuna is dry so make sure you have some water nearby. You could also make your own dog food that's safer to eat, has more nutrition, and tastes better by mixing pieces of cooked beef, rice, and veggies together. Hope that helps.

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/17/2008 6:17:28 PM

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I would be very careful eating dog food, my suggestion would be a nice dog bowl, and dry human cerel. (oh and the process of making wet dog food is even worse)

http://www.api4animals.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1
The Manufacturing Process: How Pet Food Is Made
Dry Food
The vast majority of dry food is made with a machine called an extruder. First, materials are blended in accordance with a recipe created with the help of computer programs that provide the nutrient content of each proposed ingredient. For instance, corn gluten meal has more protein than wheat flour. Because the extruder needs a consistent amount of starch and low moisture to work properly, dry ingredients — such as rendered meat-and-bone-meal, poultry by-product meal, grains, and flours — predominate.
The dough is fed into the screws of an extruder. It is subjected to steam and high pressure as it is pushed through dies that determine the shape of the final product, much like the nozzles used in cake decorating. As the hot, pressurized dough exits the extruder, it is cut by a set of rapidly whirling knives into tiny pieces. As the dough reaches normal air pressure, it expands or “puffs” into its final shape. The food is allowed to dry, and then is usually sprayed with fat, digests, or other compounds to make it more palatable. When it is cooled, it can be bagged.
Although the cooking process kills bacteria in the ingredients, the final product can pick up more bacteria during the subsequent drying, coating, and packaging process. Some experts warn that getting dry food wet can allow the bacteria on the surface to multiply and make pets sick. Do not mix dry food with water, milk, canned food, or other liquids

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/17/2008 6:17:32 PM

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/17/2008 6:25:20 PM

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quote:

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People other than the OP can learn from answers so I don't see any shame in answering.

As for the question: I know there are plenty of recipes for people who like to make their dog's food themselves. You might want to check out some of those out, both for taste and safety. It might not have a degrading aspect to it though, if that is important to you.

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/17/2008 6:29:56 PM

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You really wouldnt want to know whats in them. Now there might be a healthy brand out there but how are you really going to find it? They all claim to be healthy while there is tons of reports showing otherwise.

So you might try becoming a puppy who is kept healthy by her owner. He or you can search for home prepared puppy/dog food recepies and he can feed you on that.

If you really insist on eating packed dog food, keep it limited. Do not try to replace your diet with it nor turn it into a regular meal.

None of them has a much taste.

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/17/2008 6:38:52 PM

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Reese's Puff cereal. Looks like dog food, but it won't make puppy sick.

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/17/2008 6:59:24 PM

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Any people I know who are into puppy play don't use actual dog food but will create a mash which looks like it. Usually they'll mix together chopped canned meat, veggies, etc into a mush and then feed their pets in a dog dish. One pet owner I know will make a beef stew, cools it down, chops the meat veggies and potatoes into smaller pieces before serving it.

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/17/2008 8:58:46 PM

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Sounds better than my dinner tonight.

I understand Wellness pet food is made human-grade. Just going to pick up some charcoal biscuits myself

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/17/2008 10:18:40 PM

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Neither. Halo brand (click link here) has a food called Spots Stew which contains no "bi-products" (ick) and is fit for human consumption. You can get it at your local Petco.

Newman's Own has an organic dog food which, I believe, is fit for human consumption. There are several options out there. Don't buy the crappy stuff.

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/18/2008 5:20:06 AM

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I think a twuer test would be my ex-wifes cooking.

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/18/2008 9:48:49 AM

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My initial response was, you'll find out what they taste like when you're on all fours.

But I jumped to the conclusion that you'd only be eating a very small amount of it, and not regularly.

If you are looking at eating manufactured dog food regularly, do look in the ingredients and health issues. For example, many domestic animals get urinary tract blockage, due to the undigestible ash in their manufactured food, forming stones. Also, I believe that they can get irritated bowels, from eating dry food (or at least, dry food only), because their digestive systems are built for eating meat with raw fat, and other ingredients.

Their digestive juices are equipped to handle certain food and bacteria in ways that ours are not.

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/18/2008 10:47:09 AM

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quote:

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My master decided it's time to train me as a puppy and has asked me to choose a brand of dog food. So...... which tastes better? Kibbles 'n bits or Alpo??

I wouldn't feed either to my dogs, I sure as hell would not feed it to a human. My dogs get Sojos (made with only human quality products) with meat I've had butchered for human consumption and veggies, added. If I was to feed it to a human the only difference I would make would be to cook the meat or add a protein substitute rather than the raw meat.

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/18/2008 12:08:26 PM

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quote:

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Reese's Puff cereal. Looks like dog food, but it won't make puppy sick.

But....if there is no milk in it, you won't get ANY of the chocolate milk goodness.

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/18/2008 1:37:23 PM

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My dog is crazy about Beneful with Salmon. Although she does spit out the green chunks.

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/18/2008 2:31:44 PM

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Okay.. funny story. (By the way.. Alpo sucks dishwater - go with the Kibbles N Bits.

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Himself thought Hobo's Beggin Strips looked pretty tasty so he tried one. I asked him how he liked it and he said he wasn't sure.. so.. he ate another one.

He was sure after that. We're saving the Beggin Strips for the dog and Himself is sticking with Doggie Donuts which he swears are really good! He wasn't willing to try the Milk Bones because he was afraid of breaking a tooth!

I love cooking for a man who will eat anything!

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/18/2008 2:40:31 PM

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I just remembered when my son was in high school on the swim team they used to eat Milkbones during meets, I have no idea why.

I also have a little sister that used to eat catfood with the cats when she was a toddler. Yes, my mother fed us.

I much prefer this awsome tray of deer summer sausage, cheeses and crackers that my boss just brought me, yummmm. What a guy!

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/18/2008 2:47:24 PM

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I would be very careful eating dog food, my suggestion would be a nice dog bowl, and dry human cerel. (oh and the process of making wet dog food is even worse)

http://www.api4animals.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1
The Manufacturing Process: How Pet Food Is Made
Dry Food
The vast majority of dry food is made with a machine called an extruder. First, materials are blended in accordance with a recipe created with the help of computer programs that provide the nutrient content of each proposed ingredient. For instance, corn gluten meal has more protein than wheat flour. Because the extruder needs a consistent amount of starch and low moisture to work properly, dry ingredients — such as rendered meat-and-bone-meal, poultry by-product meal, grains, and flours — predominate.
The dough is fed into the screws of an extruder. It is subjected to steam and high pressure as it is pushed through dies that determine the shape of the final product, much like the nozzles used in cake decorating. As the hot, pressurized dough exits the extruder, it is cut by a set of rapidly whirling knives into tiny pieces. As the dough reaches normal air pressure, it expands or “puffs” into its final shape. The food is allowed to dry, and then is usually sprayed with fat, digests, or other compounds to make it more palatable. When it is cooled, it can be bagged.
Although the cooking process kills bacteria in the ingredients, the final product can pick up more bacteria during the subsequent drying, coating, and packaging process. Some experts warn that getting dry food wet can allow the bacteria on the surface to multiply and make pets sick. Do not mix dry food with water, milk, canned food, or other liquids

By your phrase 'I would be a little bit careful about eating dog food' do you mean 'unsafe for human consumtion'? The process you describes looks pretty much like one I saw on an episode of 'Modern Marvels'.

The show was explaing how a potato becomes a potato chip. By they time they were finished explaining how Pringles are made, this is pretty much the way the process worked.

In reply both you and MasterHermes, what is wrong with dog food such that it's safe for a dog but dangerous to a human? I'm having trouble imagining what it could possibly be.

(Just incurably nosey I guess, LOL.)

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RE: Which tastes better? - 8/18/2008 2:52:53 PM

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I honestly wouldn't say it is dangerous. Less than healthy yes. I know the standards for pet foods are considerably lower. Things like bug parts and rat feces, the ppm allowed, is much higher. Also, with most pet foods the grains are substandard and the "meat by-products" is pretty much open for interpretation. I as understand it, it can even be rancid animal parts. Still, it is so processed that the end result would not be harmful.

The only problem I would see is perhaps some time of allergic reaction or maybe a person that has a really poor immune system and there was some sort of pest contamination after the product was completed but during the bagging/shipping/in the store, process.

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