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Owner4SexSlave -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (8/20/2008 11:09:48 AM)

I want to be forcefully captured and Taken by a Group of Beautiful Amazon women.   However, it's not really a very submissive fantasy of mine.  Because I'd be thinking about how I would escape from my bonds then extract sexual revenge upon them one by one.  There's no way in Hell, they'd ever be able to convert me over to becoming their slave.   What would be hot, is the idea of conflict.  The whole fight and rough sex thing.

What gets me off is having some women force herself and her ways upon me, then turning around and returning the favor.  hahahah...

Damn.... this is as close as I get to submissive in my twisted fantasies.




subtee -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (8/20/2008 2:13:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

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ORIGINAL: subtee

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

(not me; I'm all DOM), 
Focus Uberious.


Thank god [;)]

Talk's cheap, girl - if you really meant it, you'd be flying over here to give me a back rub and cook dinner.    [;)] back atcha....
 
Focus.


But...that's very expensive




MizSexyVixen -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (8/20/2008 3:09:16 PM)

Great topic!

I see it this way: no one is 100% dominant or 100% submissive (anymore than they are 100% male or 100% female), we are all somewhere on a continuum. Switches tend to hover around the middle or pendulum back and forth. I don't believe it is necessary to track where you are on that continuum as much as it is necessary to understand how you perceive and relate to the other individuals you encounter.

For instance, I am a mostly dominant switch (I am capable of dominating most people I encouter; I submit to a rare few). Although there are some who can't understand that, -I- understand that I am a highly complex, dual natured individual who has a deep understanding of both roles.  

Personally, I find that many people who have been in this lifestyle for awhile evolve to a point where they become interested in the other side as it were. Some just like to top or bottom on ocassion. Others find that need goes a little deeper.  I see that willingness to evolve as a big positive step in self awareness. We don't all spring from the womb knowing "I'm a Dom."

For the OP: I -do- understand this period of transition can be scary. But you have enough self assurance to post on this board, use that to explore and find out who you are -now-  and attempt to embrace your submissive fantasies.

Do all Doms have these fantasies?....um no, but MOST do (and I would know).




MasterKalif -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (8/20/2008 8:45:55 PM)

well, in my personal experience I have never questioned my Dominant tendencies nor will it ever happen its a deep part of me...

In any case, it seems you need to explore yourself some more and not limit yourself...perhaps you are fighting your own urges due to a distorted self image of what you thought you were? Only you know this. human beings are many things, not everything is black and white..




MasterKalif -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (8/20/2008 8:48:22 PM)

MizSexyVixen,

Not sure what you mean one cannot be 100% male or female...you are either male or female, not 40% female and 60% male..(I make an exception for those born with both sexes but its not a common ocurrency)




E2Sweet -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (8/20/2008 8:57:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MizSexyVixen

....Personally, I find that many people who have been in this lifestyle for awhile evolve to a point where they become interested in the other side as it were. Some just like to top or bottom on ocassion. Others find that need goes a little deeper....


Exactly! [:)]




NovelApproach -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (8/21/2008 2:08:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterKalif

MizSexyVixen,

Not sure what you mean one cannot be 100% male or female...you are either male or female, not 40% female and 60% male..(I make an exception for those born with both sexes but its not a common ocurrency)


Gender is way more complex than just a binary value, as is sexuality.  The concepts of "gay," "straight," "masculine," and "feminine" aren't as absolute as people think.  Most of us fall somewhere on a spectrum, rather than only at one extreme or the other.  Ever hear of the Kinsey scale?




Focus50 -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (8/21/2008 3:23:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subtee

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

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ORIGINAL: subtee

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

(not me; I'm all DOM), 
Focus Uberious.


Thank god [;)]

Talk's cheap, girl - if you really meant it, you'd be flying over here to give me a back rub and cook dinner.    [;)] back atcha....
 
Focus.


But...that's very expensive

Well obviously I'm worth the sacrifice ([8D]) and, since you're a cutie (I checked your big pics), everbody wins - 'specially you....  lol
 
Focus.




Dnomyar -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (8/21/2008 4:07:26 AM)

Subtee come see me and it will cut your expenses in half. Am I a bargin or what.




MasterKalif -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (8/21/2008 7:29:30 PM)

NovelApproach,

I think "people" are complex, not gender...people are either male or female, who they are. People can muse and pretend to be what they were not born as, however that does not make them what they wish to be or what they see themselves as. Call me old fashioned, but was not big on gender studies. I disagree people can be put on a  spectrum, so could I surmise that you fall 90% on the woman spectrum and 10% on the male one? See what I mean?




NovelApproach -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (8/24/2008 9:47:59 AM)

I'd prefer not to hijack this thread with a discussion on gender, so I think we'll just have to agree to disagree.  What I will say is this - gender, while tied to sex, is not equivalent to sex.  And even if it were, there are (technically speaking) four sexes.  Gender is a mental construct, which is why many cultures have entirely different ideas of what "male" and "female" mean..  I grew up in Hawaii, where we have what are known as "Mahuwahine" and "Mahukane," which sociologists and anthropologists would refer to as third and fourth genders, and because there's such a large Samoan community, I was also exposed to the idea of the "fa'afine" which is also a very distinct third gender.  The fluidity of gender is a fact of life where I live. 

People *are* complex, and this is just one of the many ways in which that complexity manifests.




Worldly1 -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (9/6/2008 3:00:43 PM)

Over the years, I have had several Dom friends who enjoyed bottoming for specific scenes that they enjoyed, such as a flogging, single tail, violet wand, etc.

This does not necessarily make them a submissive or a switch, it simply means that they enjoy receiving a specific type of stimulation from time to time. In most cases, it helped them to release pent-up stress.

So...please understand that bottoming and submitting are two different things.

Although I have not read every one of the replies to your post, I suggest that you need to decide if you are feeling the need to actually submit to someone (serve them), or else you just want to be the occasional receiver of stimulation instead of the giver.

With respect,
W1




DomDolf -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (9/6/2008 8:07:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MizSexyVixen

Do all Doms have these fantasies?....um no, but MOST do (and I would know).


I'm more rare than I thought. I have not even once had this cross my mind. Of course I have been asked if I would, if I've considered it and if I have. The answer is and always will be a very confident NO to all of the above.

Dolf




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (9/6/2008 8:23:43 PM)

Submissive fantasies arent uncommon.Until you find someone you connect with well enough to actually play them out, though, you will never know if you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Finding a partner to test these things with is difficult. AS others said, you might be more interested in bottoming that submitting.

DV




FangsNfeet -> RE: Dominants with submissive fantasies (9/7/2008 4:35:26 PM)

There are many cases where fantasies are best kept as fantasies. After giving it a try, you either love it or realize that it was something seems like a good idea but dosen't really work for you.




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