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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 8:10:39 PM   
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The answer is 42.


But itsn't that the answer to everything?

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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 8:12:13 PM   
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The answer is 42.


But itsn't that the answer to everything?

No, that would be 69

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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 8:14:30 PM   
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with  inflation and  the  rising cost of eating out, 69 is now known as 96 

< Message edited by masterofdrkness2 -- 8/17/2008 8:15:03 PM >


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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 8:15:21 PM   
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with the cost of inflation and  the cost of eating out, 69 is now known as 96 

LMFAO

Dayum price increases

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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 8:16:37 PM   
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What?  I must have missed the official memo on this one.

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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 8:23:10 PM   
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I sincerely believe/feel you need to get past whatever social conditioning (brain washing) you have inside your head regarding this.   Expand your mind, your social circle of friends, and get to know more people.   Think you might see things in a different light.


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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 8:23:18 PM   
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with  inflation and  the  rising cost of eating out, 69 is now known as 96 


Inflation has offically gone too far...

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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 8:29:18 PM   
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I may be able to clarify this a bit. The OP is a young male sub looking for a Domme. My guess is that he is upset at either the lack of response, or the responses he is getting from the Dommes here..

To the OP- You are seeing things from one perspective. On the female sub/ male dom side, things are different.



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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 8:32:37 PM   
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The answer is 42.


But itsn't that the answer to everything?

No, that would be 69


I am absolutely positive that the answer is 42.  The solution, however is 69.  Now all we need is the where, when, and who and we are all set.

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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 8:51:17 PM   
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wow. a lot of posts already. yea, people trust doms to being who they say they are before subs.  why?  (atleast the people ive come across)  like a dom screwed me over and a bunch of other doms think im a wanker or w/e b/c shes been sayin stuff about me.  and shes the liar.    like, its not fair that shes trusted before me.  its seems to me like everyone thinks subs are horny and doms arent....

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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 8:53:22 PM   
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why do people trust doms before subs. and women before men?


Because you touch yourself at night.


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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 9:05:13 PM   
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wow. a lot of posts already. yea, people trust doms to being who they say they are before subs.  why?  (atleast the people ive come across)  like a dom screwed me over and a bunch of other doms think im a wanker or w/e b/c shes been sayin stuff about me.  and shes the liar.    like, its not fair that shes trusted before me.  its seems to me like everyone thinks subs are horny and doms arent....


That clarifies things, thank you. Now we know that this is a pissed-off, make generalizations thread.  Please re-read my post. You are seeing things from one perspective, but not the ONLY perspective. It might help if you would use the word "Domme", rather than "Dom", so people know who are are pissed-off at.
Jus sayin.



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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 9:07:11 PM   
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... like, its not fair...


One of life's many lessons: Life isn't always fair.


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RE: why? - 8/17/2008 11:19:54 PM   
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why do people trust doms before subs. and women before men?


It seems the real question is why do you trust doms before subs and women before men? It can be a touch question for you to answer, but it certainly an excellent one to ask yourself!

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RE: why? - 8/18/2008 12:46:48 AM   
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wow. a lot of posts already. yea, people trust doms to being who they say they are before subs.  why?  (atleast the people ive come across)  like a dom screwed me over and a bunch of other doms think im a wanker or w/e b/c shes been sayin stuff about me.  and shes the liar.    like, its not fair that shes trusted before me.  its seems to me like everyone thinks subs are horny and doms arent....


That clarifies things, thank you. Now we know that this is a pissed-off, make generalizations thread.  Please re-read my post. You are seeing things from one perspective, but not the ONLY perspective. It might help if you would use the word "Domme", rather than "Dom", so people know who are are pissed-off at.
Jus sayin.




First I dare say that most of the people here (and yes that is a generalization) normally DO look at things mainly from only one perspective.  After all, when was the last time you were a male sub or a male dom to really know their perspective, and perhaps you have never been a fem dom either.  So most of their generalizations will come from one main perspective. 

And in all honesty the OP actually does have a fairly legitmate complaint, though it could have been worded better.  I sometimes find myself getting more than a little irritated as well and I've been around a lot longer than he has.

Although this does not happen ALL the time, here is a pretty good GENERALIZATION of what does frequently happen...probably considerably more frequently than people that are not male-subs realize.

First contact is made by one or the other...a male/sub, or a fem/dom.  In the very early correspondance here is what happens:

Domme:  "Since there are so many phony and insincere male subs out there my method of weeding them out is for the sub to send me a "tribute" to prove his sincerity to me."  (This does indicate that the Domme does not trust the male sub to be what he says.  Either that, or this particular "Domme" is actually a woman or man that has created a profile with stolen pictures in order to scam the male subs.}
Male sub:  "I will happily send you a tribute if you will confirm on cam, on the phone, or with a digital photo of you holding a copy of todays paper, that you are indeed the person who's picture is on your profile."  (This is simply the sub conveying the same concerns as the Domme, and what he asks in confirmation is usually considerably less than what the "Domme" requires for "tribute".)
Domme:  You're nothing but a damn wanker.  If you can't trust me to be who I say I am you can just get lost!"

So yes, Dommes EXPECT to be trusted and accepted at face value, and that is what the scammers are banking on!  And the male subs are automatically considered to be just a wanker or a wanna-be that can't be trusted unless he "proves" himself some way, usually through money or gifts.

No, it isn't right.  And no, it isn't fair.  But, it is what it is and all of us just have to deal with it.  My way to deal with it is to simply go the other way any time something like "tribute" or "proof" is mentioned.  And it really is a shame that it is that way because people on both sides are probably missing a lot of good contacts in an area where it is difficult enough making good contacts anyway.

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RE: why? - 8/18/2008 3:22:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: APoinephilicLife

why do people trust doms before subs. and women before men?


Coming from a male submissive, given the sweeting statement is entirely wrong one must look at the question in a different light.

He is saying people trust Doms before subs, when he is sub.... he is saying people trust women before men, when he is male...... in short he is telling us that people don't trust HIM.

Rather clear that is isn't because he is male nor because he is submissive, so it must be down to WHO HE IS!

Nope I don't know him, but it is the logical conclusion to him posting such a question.


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RE: why? - 8/18/2008 4:11:40 AM   
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OMG here we go again.

There's a lot of people on here, just as there's a lot of people out there.. And you know, there's a lot of relationships and friendships out there too. Actually when you stop and think about it, there's more than enough to go round.

But how do you find it? How do you find anything, you look for it, but when you look for it you do so with an open mind.

I have a problem. In fact it's a bad habit of mine. I never put my keys down in the same place. Therefore, ergo I often lose my keys. Now the problem is, as I'm sure quite a few people are aware if they have the same problem, is that you're usually very close to your front door or about to go out when you realise you don't have your keys, and so you look for them and they're not there where I expect them to be.

So what do I do? I look for them. But knowing that I cannot remember where I put them, I start looking for them with an open mind. I don't sit down and whine that I can't find my keys.

I don't sit down by the computer and start a thread in Off Topic asking 'why' and demanding to know from everyone else on CM why I can't find my keys. The answer why I've lost my keys is pretty damn obvious to me, and you know silly questions get silly answers.

You see I lost the keys in the first place, I am responsible, but you know it doesn't matter whether it's a set of keys whether it's a Domme or whatever else you are responsible. Now I guess that's quite a concept, isn't it?

Yes, you are responsible, everything you say, everything you do, everything you feel, everything you think, all the way from when you were born right up until today you are responsible.

Everything you have to find what you have in life is there inside you. If it isn't or if something's missing you go out and you either learn it or find it.

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RE: why? - 8/18/2008 4:24:52 AM   
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wow. a lot of posts already. yea, people trust doms to being who they say they are before subs.  why?  (atleast the people ive come across)  like a dom screwed me over and a bunch of other doms think im a wanker or w/e b/c shes been sayin stuff about me.  and shes the liar.    like, its not fair that shes trusted before me.  its seems to me like everyone thinks subs are horny and doms arent....



Here's the thing.... This too shall pass.

I can understand how this situation would be upsetting, but it is an example of how perception becomes ones reality.  The more you let it bother you the more it becomes your reality.  A bunch of other Doms think you're a wanker, but all you can do is NOT be a wanker and all will eventually be right with the world.  The more you try to defend yourself against the words of someone else, the more you may tend to validate her words.  Living right, living well, it not only its own reward but is also the best form of revenge.

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RE: why? - 8/18/2008 6:30:15 AM   
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Everyone sees the relationship different, I try to see everyone first as we are all human, then male or female, then possibly submissive or dominant...and then possibly a piggie;)

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RE: why? - 8/18/2008 6:50:39 AM   
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OP, something didn't mesh with you and some Domme. 

You then made an assumption that it was due to your gender and submissive role, and asked a bizarrely oblique question here.

I would be willing to bet that if "others" believed her over you, that she has connections and people who have observed her and trust/believe her.  If they had been total strangers, they would have not gotten involved or cared.

Advice for the future:

1. Get to know others in the lifestyle and try to act in a way that they will respect.
2. Work on your communication skills.
3. If things get fuzzy and confusing, ask the other person what's going on in their mind.
4. Try not to complain about others, especially to their friends.  Say goodbye and move on.



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