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Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 4:33:21 AM   
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A mental patient died after workers at a North Carolina hospital left him in a chair for 22 hours without feeding him or helping him use the bathroom, said federal officials who have threatened to cut off the facility's funding.

The state sent a team Tuesday to help Cherry Hospital in Goldsboro draft new procedures to ensure patients receive proper care.

An investigator's report released Monday found that 50-year-old Steven Sabock died in April after he at one point choked on medication and had been left sitting in a chair for close to a day at the facility about 50 miles southeast of Raleigh. Surveillance video showed hospital staff watching television and playing cards just a few feet away.


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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 5:05:34 AM   
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I'm disgusted.

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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 5:15:14 AM   
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in my humble opinion it is more than neglect on the part of the staff...it is abuse. I can only hope criminal charges will be filed.

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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 6:37:14 AM   
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"The state sent a team Tuesday to help Cherry Hospital in Goldsboro draft new procedures to ensure patients receive proper care."

New procedures ain't gonna cut it.

The man was starved for four days and choked on his meds, with no assistance.  Training and procedures won;t fix this problem.  Hiring halfway intelligent employees would be a start.

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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 6:39:59 AM   
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Back to the XIXth century 'mental asylum'  .

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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 6:42:29 AM   
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Since when is a mental patient left to take his medications on his own?



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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 6:46:59 AM   
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        Anybody surprised this is a government run hospital?
http://www.cherryhospital.org/

      

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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 6:51:36 AM   
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Any avoidable tragedy like this one is 'surprising'.

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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 6:54:00 AM   
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       Anybody surprised this is a government run hospital?
http://www.cherryhospital.org/

     


Sorry...i fail to see the connection. You have neglect in private hospitals as well.


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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 6:57:30 AM   
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I think heretic was trying to make a political point  .

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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 7:06:00 AM   
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I /family /buddy worked in the field.   It is a tough line of work.  The staff is stretched to the breaking point.

Due to a court ruling all of this was to change.  So no meds- no locks... and group homes for all.

This isnt really shocking.

In fact "Selinsgrove Center" is a facility for the MR.    I am familliar with it.

ANyhow the OP is the exception, not the rule.  I will note that silly-drama and not nice things go on.     The vids of these workers slacking is proof tho....

I think everyone ought to spend some time with the MR/MH.   It is more of a burden then you know. Often a thankless job.  The staff needs to be fired and charged.  Thats how the center handles it. AND yes a few have been charged there. One minute a resident is eating lightbubls- the next kicking the worker hard enough that the worker needs surgery..   

unless you spend time around it- you dont realize the burden.

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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 7:12:55 AM   
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       Anybody surprised this is a government run hospital
     


Have you ever been in a VA hospital?  No surprise here.  A county hospital...same thing.  Pretty much most hospitals seem to have this same problem.  Maybe not as bad as death happening.

When I was in the medical field there were certain hospitals that if anything happened to us we carried cards in our wallets.  Under no circumstances do you take me to this hospital.  Even if that means death.  Whether in the end or not, would it have worked I don't know.  Yet it gave us peace of mind carrying our cards.
Its good that this occurrence made the national news.  Perhaps something will be done to correct it.

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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 7:28:36 AM   
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honestly, i'm neither shocked nor surprised since i have experienced this type of treatment by a govt hospital and staff.

years ago when my oldest was 3, she had pneumonia (i didn't know that at the time) and took her to the county hospital which wasn't too far away. however upon getting there, i was told there was a 9hr waiting list no matter the emergency and the age of the patient. refusing to wait that long, i took her to a hospital further away however she was seen immediately.

story doesn't end there - since she was on HMO at the time, we had to be transferred to an HMO (as a govt) hospital across town. what a horrible experience that was. the staff acted as if they didn't know about her transfer, the security guard berated me in front of her for not having a visitor's pass though i came with the ambulance, the room was dirty and not prepared for patient arrival and the nursing staff didn't want to give her anything to eat but i insisted that they did.

i documented everything i saw, what was said and happened (including sick kids playing in the hallway because there was no playroom on the floor - it was being used as a patients' room) and sent copies to the administration as well as the state boards. the outcome, staff and changes were made.

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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 8:32:30 AM   
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wait times at Lewisburg -"Evan Hospital" have creeped up- to over 4 hours now.  They expanded and so did the wait.  

there is another choice- some say they would not send their dog- but I find it ok and better then the wait.

we dont have immidiate care centers...tho CVS might do something like it. the DRs staff coach the patients to try the primary DR first.   so sit in the waiting room and the DR peeks in per the morning runs.



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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/20/2008 2:49:07 PM   
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this addresses the long wait times - as long as people treat the ED as a convenient, all-hours clinic for minor ailments and injuries, the wait times are going to be horrendous.

I spent 10 years working in an ED, and people would use us instead of their doctor because they didn't have to upfront money. I had a woman come in at 3 am with lower abdominal pain - that she had had for 4 weeks. I asked her what made her come in tonight - trying to see what made it an emergency - and she replied that she didn't have anything else to do at that time. She had PID, which could have been treated at her doctors office at any time, if she had made any effort at all.

The people that are the ones that abuse the ED are the lower income people - the ones who have limited insurance, and limited access to affordable health care. They tend to be the ones who delay getting health care because they hope things will get better without doing anything.  As a result a cat bite becomes a surgery candidate instead of just a course of antibiotics, a sore throat becomes tonsillar abscesses, and PID becomes peritonitis.   None of these sort of things are lifethreatening, but need care that day, and waiting times reflect this problem.

Affordable healthcare and insurance is the only way i see to change this trend. I also think that an upfront fee in the ED will discourage the people who are using the ED for sheer convenience sake. I would say that demanding $10 would be enough to stop this.

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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/21/2008 6:23:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

I think heretic was trying to make a political point  .


      More social, really, Kitten.  Public sector employees vs. private.

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RE: Another hospital tragedy - 8/21/2008 10:46:50 AM   
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I am not shocked or surprised either.  The lack of funding, understaffing, lack of training and outright fraud at some of these institutions is appalling.

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