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jamesthehumanrug -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/22/2005 11:26:32 PM)

greetings, lady son L,
23/7, so, as slave i get an hr., to do something, for myself ?
you said" buying" is ,that a freudian slip, or am i missing something ?
what will I do to earn it?I FIGURE YOU HAVE A CERTAIN NEED;
you want a slave
you know i'm it.
your hurt me ,in a million ways, and, we grow, together...i give you all i have ;like i was vanilla, but, i'm ,not, so: it's a sunday lets do worship.
my thot was: what were they ,b4 you ...
all this is built-in: ISNT IT?
-that 20 min. 5 a.m. walk thing; is almost the same thing i was told, by brass in ARMY d.o.d.headquarters who had spouses all m,o.s ,and, told me they jog at 5 am, cause SHE thinks, thats more sexy ,than anything ,else they can do...
she'd ,rather wait ,for her man ,to come back ,after jogging, at 5 am!
it's hot(edge)
i dont wanna get too personal ASSUMING ABOUT YOU now, but, i'd do it ,however, i can't start all, over ,now: i worked ,so G.D.hard, to be the best slave ,and, to get ,to the top(litterally); i never knew ,I'D HAVE, TO WORK MY way ,to the bottom?!,BUT, A WISE PERSON WILL I GUESS....
the dog thing;
all my tops loved their dogs, so much;
they never let anyone touch them,
to me her dog was an extention, of her;
another top ,
and, i was ,under ,everything ,about her....,
cause: i came last,
but, it never went ,any,further ;
i'd protest ,THAT....
I'D DO THE WAITER thing,
just ,for the clothes,
and,wait, on you there (while working) ,think ,about you , or ,at the limo, or car -all day ,and, forever;
i'd be glazing!
once: i loved a top, so much.i did'nt feel i did ,enuff,so i asked her, to tell me what else she wanted me ,to be;name anything ;i'd be a chiropractor; anything , just, cause she wanted me ,to...
she never said;
reality was stressful snuff, or worrying ,about snuff- threats ,or the money we couldnt enjoy but she had,and, there were takeovers, and, kidnappings.all we had was intimacy, but ,even, that was stolen, with all our words,and, my songs,and, i was stupid, enuff, to make more songs, to proove myself.,to her ..,now, i can't replace her; all were killed.i'm ,so guilty, and, ruined,so is anyone left alive.
the 5am thing;
i'd rejoice, if my top took my sleep.
you finish, by saying 24/7 vs.the 23 /7
...that hr is still yours guarenteed.you're, on my mind; heart, or i'm waiting, for you ;your return ,or, to resume.
i drove ,for an absent mistress ;all the limos, at 3-4-5 am, and ,nothing else was ever,on my mind, but, maybe, singing, for her, for more.....snuff took every penny; every life ,(didnt matter who,how close, or high up,or how many went,with them ),and, left me alive ,with no dignity,no-one has anything ,to show,if alive.
you didnt mention a holding factor
;what ,too many applicants,if you did,
or ,too much PRESSURE...,
WHEN you look, at it, from, that perspective
slaves are a dime a dozen.....
but, still you have a right, to ,and, you did'nt mention cruelty ,or habbits
no dynamic ...ya; it's a common should do ,for slaves ,in-service
and not unusual, for a top ,to be exploited,that's always a fear ,esp., w/. criminals; pimps ;mob, and, dirty- cops etc., but ,slaves ,for, that reason can't, just say:
DO ME....
.(,another song ;yours truly did).
I DON'T GET THE DYNAMIC....




slave4mzpatti -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 2:40:37 AM)

Ma'am,
i am a morning person and am awake at that time anyway and wake Mistress by rubbing her body at any time she wants. However, She is a wonderful Mistress and knows it is important to get enough sleep so my going to bed or nap time is almost always granted.
Would they be able to go back to bed or go to sleep early? As long as they are not chronically deprived of sleep they should not have a problem with that.
Mistress has made many compromises because she does not want a depressed Boy.
i think it always a good idea to have a trial period to see if it will be an acceptable situation.




sunshine333 -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 3:41:25 AM)

as long as i feel that my needs (not wants) are also being met ... and i feel cared for ... then i would adjust my sleep cycle to my Owner's desires.

sleep is vital. as long as getting up at 5am didn't interfere with your boys' quanity or quality of sleep they should be happy to do it for you.

on a side note:
i had a Master who used to get up at 4:30 to get ready for work. i took the initiative to wake with him in order to prepare his tea. he didn't seem to need or want anything else so i would go back to bed. after doing this for a while ... and pouring out full cups of tea later each morning ... i one day had the bright idea to actually ask him if he wanted me to wake with him. he said no. ... laughs ... (Lady Sonelle ... maybe i should send your boys to him. ;) )

~sunshine




Tapestry -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 4:53:34 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadySonelle

So, slaves and subs if your Dominant wants you to get up at 5, is this a deal breaker?

What would YOU do for 24/7 enslavement?

Lady Sonelle
Still waiting for The One!

Of course it's not a deal breaker!
And I had the same thought you expressed as well -
what part of 24/7 don't you understand!?
While it is of course, entirely up to Master what I do and how I spend my time
My expectation is that I will of course
keep his home running smoothly
walk the dog,
arrange for needed repairs,
manage the household,
pay the bills,
care for the children,
and all the myriad things
that he should not have to be burdened with.
Am I not there to SERVE?
It seems there is a difference between
wanting a 24/7 relationship
and wanting to have a live-in lover for play.




OsideGirl -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 6:35:30 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadySonelle

The silliest answers include "But I'm a *slave* not a dog-walker!" (honey, a slave is whatever the Master or mistress SAYS s/he is!) and "But five in the mORBING? I don't want to play THEN!" (1. we aren't play8ng and 2. what part of 24 don't you get? What part of 7?) I finally got tired of arguing and put the information on my site.

So, slaves and subs if your Dominant wants you to get up at 5, is this a deal breaker?



Some people lose sight of the fact that real life happens. We cannot be BDSM for 24/7, it's just not possible. Things like dishes, laundry....and even dog walking need to happen. Would I like to lay around being Master's sexual toy 24/7? You bet! But, the reality is that we do not have a maid, and the housework and domestic duties need to be done. I can tell you that if Master required me to get up at 5am, I wouldn't be happy about it, but I'd do it.

I don't think your issue is so much about becoming 24/7, but more about what their views of D/s BDSM is. I get the feeling he thought he'd be kneeling naked at your feet all day being your plaything, rather than what the reality of D/s is.




BalletBob -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 10:29:20 AM)

Hi Veronica. Are you happy being a hired hand? Do you get some Gagging and Tying up too, or is it all Domestic Servitude?

I don't think I would ever want a 24/7. It seems that all the Doms asking for it, just want someone to do the cleaning and every dirty job that comes along. I guess if that is what being a 24/7 sub requires, I'll stick with my once in a blue moon session, and cyber orders.

Still Happy Go Lucky, BalletBob




veronicaofML -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 10:59:43 AM)

Hi Veronica. Are you happy being a hired hand? Do you get some Gagging and Tying up too, or is it all Domestic Servitude?

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''

nope.............ALL 24/7 domestics ONLY........no sex.........no s/m............no romantic b.s.
unattached-----------uninvolved........able to pick up and go any time i want to and not look back.
i am ONLY a hired-hand here-------SAME as i was with my 1st domme.........

there is NO interaction personally nor will there EVER be.

take care




AAkasha -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 11:04:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadySonelle

If a Dom/me were to offer you a 23/7 lifetime slave position, what would you do to earn it?

I currently have two slave-trainees who are bying for that position and I have told them that they are to hold down a paying job for 1 year (both have achieved this) save up enough money to move themselves into My neighbourhood (both have said they are working on this) and finally that during the period of consideration they are to take lessons in massage, manicure, pedicure, chauffeur and waitservice training AND that from now on, they will get up at 5:00 AM each morning and go for a 20 minute walk.

This was met with screams of how unfair it was! One slave has threatened to drop out of the running. When asked why, I told them that they would have to (as My 24/7 slave, rise at that hour to take My dog outside for his morning walk! This was geeted with cries of protest. The silliest answers include "But I'm a *slave* not a dog-walker!" (honey, a slave is whatever the Master or mistress SAYS s/he is!) and "But five in the mORBING? I don't want to play THEN!" (1. we aren't play8ng and 2. what part of 24 don't you get? What part of 7?) I finally got tired of arguing and put the information on my site.

So, slaves and subs if your Dominant wants you to get up at 5, is this a deal breaker?

What would YOU do for 24/7 enslavement?

Lady Sonelle
Still waiting for The One!


I question the ability of a man to be a 24/7 "houseslave" on top of being a submissive. There's just not enough "sexy stimulation" in the grunt work that goes with 24/7 service -- seriously.

If a man also has to be a 24/7 slave/domestic and:

1. Not be the primary, intimate, sexual partner of the femdom
2. Also work full time

I think it would be impossible. Can a man work full time and then devote a large chunk of his free time and energy to service that does not focus on his cock, his sexual needs or something nasty and fun?

My husband's full time job is as a "domestic slave" I would say, but I don't "treat" him like a slave because I don't have the time or energy to dominate him to get things done. Luckily, he doesn't need to be dominated. But the amount of stuff that has to get done on a daily basis is huge, and we don't even have children. He does not have a full time job out of the house but he works for me as needed, and his day is full, mostly with things like cleaning, cooking, running errands, taking care of pets and handling the financials.

My point is that it takes a special breed of guy to handle that kind of life day in and day out. Lucky for me, my husband is a fanatic about cooking, so he takes a lot of pride and time in meal preparation (the cooking portion of his responsibilities doesn't mean putting a tv dinner in the microwave), and he prefers the freedom and flexibility of his schedule. He also is free to use a large chunk of his daytime for leisure activities that are physically active because I like him to stay in shape.

The kink in our life is separate from the fact that he's running the domestic side of the house, and I do not "dominate" him to get things done. Most of the time I don't even have to ask, he's intuitive enough to know what has to be handled, and also know when to say "You need a break, pry yourself away from your desk and I'll drive you to the beach for a couple of hours," or "I booked a massage for you at the spa, I'm driving you over there tomorrow at noon." He drives me to and from hockey games even though I am fully capable of doing it myself, and finds work to do when he's caught up instead of playing video games or sleeping late.

I'm not sure how a 24/7 domestic could function if he was NOT the 50% partner in the relationship (ie, my husband maintains the household also because it's HIS house too -- he isn't vacuuming MY floor, he's vacuuming OUR floor. Although, he does clean MY ferret's cage and MY cat's litterbox without complaint) and also the primary receiver of love and affection. That would be tough for a man, I think. Maybe multiple men could split up the work?

Akasha





veronicaofML -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 11:30:56 AM)

I'm not sure how a 24/7 domestic could function if he was NOT the 50% partner in the relationship (ie, my husband maintains the household also because it's HIS house too -- he isn't vacuuming MY floor, he's vacuuming OUR floor. Although, he does clean MY ferret's cage and MY cat's litterbox without complaint) and also the primary receiver of love and affection. That would be tough for a man, I think. Maybe multiple men could split up the work?

Akasha
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except that "I" do fine w/o partner thing going on. don't want it..don't need it...
no love..no affection..no sex...nothing...........me by myself...i take care of MY needs.....i entertain myself..have done it all my life..i'm an only child..a loner.
i do-it-all and do it well..w/o help.
i take care of my Her AND Her hubby and the dogs and the house and shoveling snow like i did today............."I" do not NEED OR want help............

it IS how "I" function........i am an island unto myself..self contained zero maintenance....




AAkasha -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 11:37:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML


I'm not sure how a 24/7 domestic could function if he was NOT the 50% partner in the relationship (ie, my husband maintains the household also because it's HIS house too -- he isn't vacuuming MY floor, he's vacuuming OUR floor. Although, he does clean MY ferret's cage and MY cat's litterbox without complaint) and also the primary receiver of love and affection. That would be tough for a man, I think. Maybe multiple men could split up the work?

Akasha
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except that "I" do fine w/o partner thing going on. don't want it..don't need it...
no love..no affection..no sex...nothing...........me by myself...i take care of MY needs.....i entertain myself..have done it all my life..i'm an only child..a loner.
i do-it-all and do it well..w/o help.
i take care of my Her AND Her hubby and the dogs and the house and shoveling snow like i did today............."I" do not NEED OR want help............

it IS how "I" function........i am an island unto myself..self conatined zero maintenance....



He also does it with a sense of joy, pride and honor. He is playful, happy and affectionate, and provides love and tenderness when it is needed. We also cuddle and make plans together and share our visions. Without those things, the service is empty. I may as well hire a maid.

Akasha




veronicaofML -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 11:43:47 AM)

Without those things, the service is empty. I may as well hire a maid.

Akasha
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it may be empty...........but that is what being a hired hand is about. this isn't Dallas...and JR is nowhere around.
i don't DO cuddles...maybe YOU need it but "I" don't. SHE....HAS a hubby for THAT!
just coz YOU got YOUR hubby to do it all? Hers is on-the-road........so "I" pick up around here and keep this house going.......while She is at work TOO.
i am thier sentinel guard...and houseboy...errandboy..grunt boy...i do it ALL!
the agreement IS that! NO personal interaction...

take care AAkasha
best wishes to You n Your guy
happy T day coming up.




AAkasha -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 11:48:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

Without those things, the service is empty. I may as well hire a maid.

Akasha
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it may be empty...........but that is what being a hired hand is about. this isn't Dallas...and JR is nowhere around.
i don't DO cuddles...maybe YOU need it but "I" don't. SHE....HAS a hubby for THAT!
just coz YOU got YOUR hubby to do it all? Hers is on-the-road........so "I" pick up around here and keep this house going.......while She is at work TOO.
i am thier sentinel guard...and houseboy...errandboy..grunt boy...i do it ALL!
the agreement IS that! NO personal interaction...

take care AAkasha
best wishes to You n Your guy
happy T day coming up.



If your service really is not based on mutual love, lust, affection or even friendship as it seems -- if you are totally unreliant and vice versa, and have no relationship per se, I have to ask why you don't offer your "service" to someone truly in need as an act of volunteerism?

Why not help the elderly and disabled, make a huge difference in a persons life? That would fill your heart with love and purpose and maybe chip away at some of that bitterness. If there's no intimacy or affection in your service -- it's just something you "do" -- then do it in a way that will change someone's life -- including your own -- forever.

You boast so much about how you don't need material things and how you can't take it to the grave. Volunteering and changing someone's life for the better is the richest deed a person can do, and you CAN take that to the grave with you, by filling your soul with purpose and joy.

Akasha




veronicaofML -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 12:00:59 PM)


If your service really is not based on mutual love, lust, affection or even friendship as it seems -- if you are totally unreliant and vice versa, and have no relationship per se, I have to ask why you don't offer your "service" to someone truly in need as an act of volunteerism?

Why not help the elderly and disabled, make a huge difference in a persons life? That would fill your heart with love and purpose and maybe chip away at some of that bitterness. If there's no intimacy or affection in your service -- it's just something you "do" -- then do it in a way that will change someone's life -- including your own -- forever.

You boast so much about how you don't need material things and how you can't take it to the grave. Volunteering and changing someone's life for the better is the richest deed a person can do, and you CAN take that to the grave with you, by filling your soul with purpose and joy.

Akasha
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ya wanna tell THAT to my HER and see what SHE has to say?
i don't believe MY service should bother YOU or anyone else.
i just state my case...to You.
either accept it or move on past my posts...it SOUNDS like YOU actually resent my kind of service?
does it really bother YOU all THAT much???????/

my gawd!

just take it or leave it.......why can't "I" be left alone to do as "I" wanna do in my life?
why ain't YOUR ole man doing stuff in the city instead of doing for YOU??????????

huh?

take care IF ya can? sounds like YOU are gonna have a major heart attack soon.




AAkasha -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 12:05:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: veronicaofML


If your service really is not based on mutual love, lust, affection or even friendship as it seems -- if you are totally unreliant and vice versa, and have no relationship per se, I have to ask why you don't offer your "service" to someone truly in need as an act of volunteerism?

Why not help the elderly and disabled, make a huge difference in a persons life? That would fill your heart with love and purpose and maybe chip away at some of that bitterness. If there's no intimacy or affection in your service -- it's just something you "do" -- then do it in a way that will change someone's life -- including your own -- forever.

You boast so much about how you don't need material things and how you can't take it to the grave. Volunteering and changing someone's life for the better is the richest deed a person can do, and you CAN take that to the grave with you, by filling your soul with purpose and joy.

Akasha
----------------

ya wanna tell THAT to my HER and see what SHE has to say?
i don't believe MY service should bother YOU or anyone else.
i just state my case...to You.
either accept it or move on past my posts...it SOUNDS like YOU actually resent my kind of service?
does it really bother YOU all THAT much???????/

my gawd!

just take it or leave it.......why can't "I" be left alone to do as "I" wanna do in my life?
why ain't YOUR ole man doing stuff in the city instead of doing for YOU??????????

huh?

take care IF ya can? sounds like YOU are gonna have a major heart attack soon.



Wow. Talk about heart attack.

My "old man" and I *do* both volunteer. Right now, sadly, it's only about 10% of our time. But we're in training to start a long term volunteer position that will take 30% of our time probably starting in the Spring. I wish I could do more. I feel fortunate to have the opportunity to do it at all.

Akasha




veronicaofML -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 12:11:11 PM)



Wow. Talk about heart attack.

My "old man" and I *do* both volunteer. Right now, sadly, it's only about 10% of our time. But we're in training to start a long term volunteer position that will take 30% of our time probably starting in the Spring. I wish I could do more. I feel fortunate to have the opportunity to do it at all.

Akasha
============

i am happy for You..........

why can't YOU let these people on here do their THING here posting and talk to me one on one in emails and leave this for them to post? now go enjoy and let me and everyone else be???????

thanks, huh?
just be happy for me..i'm happy for YOU>!




fyreredsub -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 12:21:20 PM)

i didn't have to do anything but be myself. then it just happened.[:)]




theRose4U -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 5:51:30 PM)

quote:

So, slaves and subs if your Dominant wants you to get up at 5, is this a deal breaker?


I do foster care for special needs animals. My dogs have to be walked, fed & medicated every 12 hours every day on the same schedule. My boy has been instructed that all my dogs rank higher in my household than he does. He's also been instructed that their care and well being is an extension of me and any failure would likely result in the death of one of these animals as well as his immediate dismissal. For someone that doesn't own a pet this has been a large adjustment for him especially when I go out of town. I think that time and routine get past this hurdle.
Personally I tell people like you up front what the deal is & anything met with bitch, piss, moan just shows me that they aren't worth my consideration. With something like this I just tell them, there's the off ramp this is part of the package either get over it & quit bitching or get out. Either way they make the choice to obey.




dulcimer -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 6:09:13 PM)

Hm. Lots to think about here. Ramifications, horseplay and bullshit -- a regular barnyard, lol....

But honestly, I wouldn't want a 24/7 unless she was genuinely committed to me.
I wouldn't want her so committed unless she trusted me.
How could she trust me if she thought I would ask her to sacrifice without reason?

5am is early...unless you went to bed at 9pm.
If that's the household's cycle, then what's the problem?
But there's another issue here....
For me, to *accept* a committed 24/7 relationship, I'd have to genuinely care very deeply for the prospective slave.
I'd never *allow* such a title to be under my aegis unless it was sincerely desired.
If getting up at 5am was a dealbreaker, I'd question the relationship.

So to broaden the original scope a little (pardon me if that's gauche?),
is anyone here truly committed 24/7 to a master who doesn't take care of your needs?

If so, why do you stay?
And if not, doesn't that pretty much illuminate the point?




krikket -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 6:13:28 PM)

i'd get up at what ever time my Master wanted me to in order for his day to get off to a good start, whether that meant walking his dog, making his breakfast, or whatever else he came up, even if it was.."just because." As his slave, i consider my main priority to be his comfort, to make his live easier. Having said that, i believe that taking care of our partners is a two way street. i not only need the focus and direction i would find in him, but the security of being protected and trusted and cared for -- even at 5:00 in the morning.

cheers
jimini




sanita -> RE: To Be 24/7 What Would You Do? (11/23/2005 7:21:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadySonelle

This was geeted with cries of protest. [...]

So, slaves and subs if your Dominant wants you to get up at 5, is this a deal breaker?

What would YOU do for 24/7 enslavement?

Lady Sonelle
Still waiting for The One!



Ok. Currently, Master is in Miami while i am still in Texas. He calls me His "alarm clock," and when He told me that He wanted me to wake Him up at 4 AM His time... yes, i whined a little. But it most certainly was not a deal breaker. And despite the whining, i took it seriously. i set my phone alarm for 3 AM, called Him, made sure He was really awake, and not just saying it so He could roll over and go back to sleep, and then i rolled over and went back to sleep. i usually have to get up at 5:30, to be at work at 7 AM.

Now, i have to wake Him at 5 each morning, even on weekends, but He is all for me going back to sleep once He is awake enough to tell me to. This means calling Him at 4 AM my time. That goes for weekdays and weekends. It is just part of the job description.

When we are living together, or i am sharing His bed, i am responsible for waking Him, too. It just is.

Lady Sonnelle, You simply found someone who was not on the same page. *s* You'll find someone, and your criteria seem like good ways to give Yourself time to learn about their character, and commitment.




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