Termyn8or
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This situation is a bit unusual, but nobody makes something like this up.
Buddy does some work on a house, a nice affluent area, nice work which he did nicely. It was a sizable job. During the job he noticed a Porsche in the garage and the customer said "You can have it for $1.500". Then a day or two later she says he can have it for a thousand. Now she has offered him the car for free.
I wish I could do this guy's job, masonry. With all this guy's faults (without them why would I even know him ?), he does very good work, at times exceptional. I guess this is sort of a tip. Like I said, this is an affluent neighborhood.
The paint is very faded and he says there are no numbers on it. I would think somewhere you would see 911 or 914 or something. It could be a Carrera. If it is it books for $21,000 on nadaguides. If it is a 911 it's $11,000. He says he looked it over and under and it seems to be in good shape, no rust through, only surface rust. The car starts and runs although he hasn't driven it. It also only has 47,000 miles on it.
Now I think maybe it is a steal at a grand. That would be like the penny you drop in the store and say screw it, it ain't worth bending over for. Whether it is free or a grand I told him to get it. He planned to paint it but I schooled him a bit.
When you get a car that old with the original paint you don't paint it. He has never dealt with anything like this before, 47,000 miles, no rust through and 33 years old with original paint, I would shoot you if you tried to paint that car. When you paint that car, you go to Italy, find the OEM paint manufacturer and have them mix you up a batch of the original paint.Then you take it and the paint to Roman Chariot or someplace like that, if not a Porsche dealership.
If you just have Earl Sheib or MAACO paint it, it permanently loses it's class in collectables. This destroys part of it's intrinsic value. Maybe if it's painted at a dealership they can get it right and not do this, so let's say that's two grand and the grand into the car. But you can sell it for around $20,000 ? Seems like a good deal to me. Even if you take ten grand for it, you made out pretty good.
A Porsche would not be his first choice in cars, nor mine. He is a Truck Man and likes big cars. The car will be for sale of course. I am wondering if there is enough paint left on it to polish and wax, and just leave the rust spots alone.
I know when you are selling a daily driver you make it look as good as you can, bondo and some touch up paint, things like that, even repaint the steering wheel, I have. This is a classic though, 33 years old. The rules change.
My involvement with this life has been limited, but I do know some things. I have heard about people buying classic cars and saying straight out "I'da give more if you hadn't painted it". They have classes of cars, IIRC a class A car has no bondo, all original paint, everything original, and that includes the windows. If they find one little piece of broken glass in the interior you are washed out of the class A.
From what I heard there is a class AA or something like that and the requirements are even more stringent. I mean all original parts, totally. There is an exclusion for things like oil and air filters and such, but that is all. Anything that is not considered a maintainence item must be from the factory. Those cars fetch the biggest money.
To illustrate how picky these people are, my neighbor has a 1972 Ford pickup with a 390 and a three on the tree. All original. It is a fine specimen, very clean and kept that way, and he is in a car club and has a couple of trophies from that truck. One year they bounced him right out of the competition. He was not happy after they spent all the time restoring it. Why did they bounce him out ? Because it had Tiger Paw tires on it. Those did not exist in 1972 so out you go. That's how these people are.This is not class A or AA or anything, but fanatics are fanatics.
If anyone has any advice on where and how to sell this car, or anything else concerning it, I would like to know. This is not the same as selling a 1996 Honda.
He plans to drive it home if possible, about fifteen miles I think. If it makes it, I am going over there and demanding to drive it at least once. I know how to drive a stick, let me rephrase that, I KNOW how to drive a stick. In the middle of the night in Cleveland, there is a place, no traffic, no cops, no nuthin. You can do 100MPH there. No spiel about endangering people here, I know the place, and there will be noone there to harm except myself.
We might kill ourselves in this car, which is another good reason to sell it. I need comfortable, reliable transportation, yes I like to have a bit of power behind the pedal, but except for a rare excursion here and there, my racing days are over. I have no desire. That is unless someone wants to meet me on I-71 and race the Porsche on the off ramp to Denison at W67th. That's the place I am talking about, it is miles long and at night it is empty. No traffic, no cars period. It's also wide enough so that if there is a car on the road you can just go around, no problem.
Anyway, after a bit of fun, it's time for it to go. This car is not in my dreams nor his, if I can't have a 1970 Toronado, I'll take a Buick Roadmaster. I mean the newer ones in the nineties. He would probably rather have a Chevy extended cab pickup with the biggest engine they offer, even though he is generally a reasonable driver. This car is really just an investment, but how to make it pay off the best is the question.
Something online ? EBay doesn't smoke my shorts anymore, I know there are other places but I really am not in the market for a classic, so I would be driving blind on the net. I know people will fly thousands of miles to pick up a car, where do I find them ?
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