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GoddessJules -> One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 12:04:49 PM)

I people watch a lot. . .and one of the places that often rubs me the wrong way is a chat room. . .especially ones that are BDSM oriented. The journal entry I'm about to post is one that I wrote after watching how "dominants" act in a chat room. I don't think that most people got the irony or the sarcasm in it. (To their defense, maybe I'm not a very good communicator.) I did get *MANY* PMs and emails about how I "suck". . .but at the end of the day. . .it's all pixels. Was it THAT bad?? *snickers*

Discourse into Troll Understanding
Trolls. They are hated by all. No one seems to appreciate the inherent benefits that trolls offer to the cyber community. If you think about it, there are NO real-life equivalent to an online troll. The point of this discourse will be to foster understanding, good will, and appreciation to a segment of the cyber population that has been unfairly crucified.

First and foremost, if there were no trolls around. . .there would be no conversation in the chat rooms. Current statistics indicate that trolls directly account for 23% of chat room conversations. Indirectly (people complaining about trolls, chastising trolls, typing obscenities to trolls, recalling trolls of the past, trying to reform trolls, and copying and pasting what a troll said in PMs), they contribute to 41% of chat room conversations. With that kind of chat initiating power, they have become an integral and indispensable fixture in chat culture. Let's face it, we aren't all that interesting and if it weren't for these trolls. . .we'd have nothing to converse about.

Second, the resentment that people feel toward trolls is a manifestation of their own insecurities. The ability for someone to brazenly come into a chat room and declare "24/m/Ca/ with cam looking for fun," is something difficult to fathom for most. Who wouldn't want the endowment to be able to bear their naked soul to an assemblage of random and unknown people? This is a high-level skill that is lacking in most people. We are so concerned with outward appearances, that we are unable to expose our defenseless quintessence.

In conclusion, we all hate them because they are powerful. They make people engage in conversations they didn't want nor thought they would be in in the first place. They bring out the ugliest traits in people. With a few keystrokes, they send people into tirades and diatribes. They make people lose all perspective when it comes to common sense. They make you forget that there is an ignore feature. THEY are the movers and shakers of the chat world.


~Goddess~



LadyAngelika -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 12:19:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessJules
Trolls. They are hated by all. No one seems to appreciate the inherent benefits that trolls offer to the cyber community. If you think about it, there are NO real-life equivalent to an online troll.


I would say there are. Ever go to the local discotheque? Sometimes even in the park or on the street. There probably aren't as many because the repercussions are less online because of initial anonymity.

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ORIGINAL: GoddessJules
Second, the resentment that people feel toward trolls is a manifestation of their own insecurities. The ability for someone to brazenly come into a chat room and declare "24/m/Ca/ with cam looking for fun," is something difficult to fathom for most.


That they do it in a chat room, fine. That they PM, not so fine. I just close the window. If they persist, I ignore. I find it silly to go off on tangent about how annoying they are. They don’t however make my pressure rise one bit.

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ORIGINAL: GoddessJules
In conclusion, we all hate them because they are powerful.


Interesting theory. However, that is a pretty big all encompassing *we* there Jules ;) It takes a lot of energy to hate someone. I don't have that much energy to spend on a troll. I'd rather spend it doing something productive. I just don't care for trolls. Not much more dramatic then that I'm afraid ;)

- LA



GoddessJules -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 12:24:52 PM)

LOL. . .I guess the fact that I am being *TOTALLY* sarcastic isn't coming through.

~Goddess~



LadyAngelika -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 12:26:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessJules

LOL. . .I guess the fact that I am being *TOTALLY* sarcastic isn't coming through.

~Goddess~


Actually, for me it didn't. But that's ok. I found it an interesting read nonetheless ;)

- LA



melycious -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 12:54:05 PM)

~confesses..i didnt get the total sarcasm either.. mostly because at least part of what yu say is true...

trolls as they have come to be called, are annoying, they do send some folks off into tirades etc.. and i'm the first to admit, that when i'm Pmsy..i spend more time with them, then i need to.. i'm never rude..but simply put, i like to debate..and they generally debate well.. and as expected i'm not talking bout the 24/built m/with cam folks.. (i simply dont respond to them, its their dime.. let them use it as they wish) but more of the overblown egos that come in, expecting one to bow down because they have a cap in their name.. and get offended (back to the name topic).. however, i can also say..that generally speaking, this in my experiences comes from a lack of knowledge or experience and lack of self esteem, some of those folks with time, and some extra nice nice, come around and become contributing members of a chat room..

Basically i guess for me, the chat room is for everyone, some folks need some help to see that maybe what they are looking for, would be best served in a different kind of chat.. ie send them to biancas for cyber, but bottom line is.. when i'm in chat..and i cant take someone else anymore... i leave... its my issue, not theirs.....

but..thats just me..

mely



GoddessJules -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 1:10:23 PM)

mely,

I think my whole "rant" was about

1) Isn't it funny how people get their panties in a wad over a few inane comments?
2) For those that profess to be about to control another's life (as Dominants) they can't even utilize the tools to control their online experience.

If you really look at it, the situation isn't funny. . .but what can one do but laugh sometimes? [;)]

I just have a twisted sense of humor. . .mea culpa!
But I do agree with you and Angelica. . .don't get me wrong.

cheers!

~Jules~
Ju



TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 1:33:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessJules
Indirectly (people complaining about trolls, chastising trolls, typing obscenities to trolls, recalling trolls of the past, trying to reform trolls, and copying and pasting what a troll said in PMs), they contribute to 41% of chat room conversations.


Admitedly it has been a few months since I have been in a chat room and a few years since I was any kind of regular chatter, but your numbers seem off. Research shows that 68.21% of the chatter in any room is from people entering, leaving, and re-entering after they have been bounced.

Yours,
Taggard



GoddessJules -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 1:39:56 PM)

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Research shows that 68.21% of the chatter in any room is from people entering, leaving, and re-entering after they have been bounced.


Mea culpa. . .I was using the 1999 BDSM chat almanac and the figures could have changed significantly since then.

cheers!

~Jules~



Estring -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 4:09:08 PM)

And trolls are usually short and live under bridges. Who wants that? [;)]



GoddessJules -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 4:27:47 PM)

But in their defense. . .those big, long, noses they have. . . .HAVE to be good for *something!*

~*grinz*~


~Jules~



kiki blue -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 4:50:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty
Research shows that 68.21% of the chatter in any room is from people entering, leaving, and re-entering after they have been bounced.


But research also shows 75% of statistics are made up on the spot.



SherriA -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 5:11:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessJules

LOL. . .I guess the fact that I am being *TOTALLY* sarcastic isn't coming through.


I saw the sarcasm. I thought it was pretty damned funny too. Does that mean I spent way too much time in chatrooms at some point? Probably.....



TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 5:18:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessJules

But in their defense. . .those big, long, noses they have. . . .HAVE to be good for *something!*


This calls to mind a joke about Pinochio and Cinderella...all I can remember is the punch line...Cinderalla moaning "Tell the truth! Tell a lie! Tell the truth! Tell a lie!"

Yours,
Taggard



Sinergy -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 5:21:19 PM)

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This calls to mind a joke about Pinochio and Cinderella...all I can remember is the punch line...Cinderalla moaning "Tell the truth! Tell a lie! Tell the truth! Tell a lie!"


I remember reading about some cheesy 1960s porn flick called Pornochio with the tag line "It is not his nose that grows"

Sinergy



SherriA -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 5:30:35 PM)

Funniest porn I ever saw was called "7 Animated Quickies". It had Snow White doing a gang bang with the 7 dwarfs (and the evil stepmother too, I think), Pinochio and the whole lie/truth/lie/truth gig, and 5 other cartoon porn shorts. I can't remember the details cuz I was stoned outta my gourd at the time. (I also watched The Wall that nite, and have NO clue what it was about, but I know I really enjoyed it at the time.)

I'm not a fan of porn; it just doesn't turn me on in general. The exception to that is gay SM porn - watching guys beat each other and then fuck really works for me. (Yeah, I'm a total fag hag.) Other than that, though, the only porn I've ever enjoyed was animated stuff that basically mocked the entire industry.



GoddessJules -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 5:34:18 PM)

Yes. . .I find gay porn kinda hot as well. . .any psychoanalysts here?

Cheers!

~Jules~



TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 5:42:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SherriA
I'm not a fan of porn; it just doesn't turn me on in general.


When I was a kid, I used to love watching sports on tv. I watched baseball and football and hocky and tennis. Then I reached a certain age where I would much rather do the things instead of watching them. I found I just didn't enjoy watching sports.

Didn't happen with porn. I still like it.

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ORIGINAL: GoddessJules
Yes. . .I find gay porn kinda hot as well. . .any psychoanalysts here?


Well..I personally love the hot girl-on-girl action. But, as some comedian said (Paul Riser?) it's cause I agree with both of them.

Yours,
Taggard



SherriA -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 5:48:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessJules

Yes. . .I find gay porn kinda hot as well. . .any psychoanalysts here?


Doesn't take a psychoanalyst to figure it out for me. Two sizzling hot men (gay men seem to have cornered the market on out of this world bodies) enjoying themselves and each other...usually with a good dose of aggression and power/pain tossed into the mix (I did mention my preference was for SM porn, I think)...what more could I ask for? Lesbian porn that I've seen tends to be all soft and gentle and nice. Blah. That doesn't turn me on at all. And het porn is just cheezy, for the most part.

Of course, it could also be cuz it's something that I never get to see...I can watch chicks fuck, or guy/girl sex pretty easily, but for some reason I can't get past the door guy at GMSMA* parties, even if i crossdress. (Could be cuz it's damned near impossible to hide my tits....)

*GMSMA = Gay Male SM Activists, an all men SM group based in NYC



GoddessJules -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 6:32:00 PM)

Okay, okay, okay. . .

Any tips for me to crossdress *AND* pass at one of these functions?
LOL
All I need to do is get into the door.

~Jules~



SherriA -> RE: One of my last journal entries (7/30/2004 6:42:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessJules
Any tips for me to crossdress *AND* pass at one of these functions?
LOL
All I need to do is get into the door.


LOL, judging by the picture you have as an avatar, I'd say you'll have the same damned problem I do. It's REALLY hard to hide those tits well enough to pass as a dude!



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