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Aneirin -> Is NATO doomed ? (8/24/2008 2:42:12 PM)

And so I hear tonight on the BBC news that America has sent a warship or two to help the people of Georgia. The warships will hang about off the Georgian coast, which will in turn provide some some comfort to the Georgians. So tell me, what exactly are a couple of warships going to do ? Perhaps it is, the US are now in position should the Ruskies try something else, but a couple of warships, surely they are dead meat if something should occur ? Is it that the US administration still feels they are a force to be reckoned with and everyone will back down in the face of US might ?

Lets face it, US forces are deployed in both Iraq and Afghanistan, neither conflict seems winnable in the face of world media, people in the US are not happy with these wars overseas and the US lives that are being snuffed out. Yet your administration continues to breathe fire over any who challenge.

Nato, a good idea when it was formed, but something I feel has grown out of proportion, since when did former Soviet states become part of the NORTH ATLANTIC, treaties organisation, they are not even in the same arena.

So what is going on, the world seems to be headed for a financial recession, no one can afford yet another conflict, I understand there are countries that will take advantage of this and chance their arm, but why does it seem as though other NATO members may voice their  oppinions, but it is always the US, often closely followed by the UK and some other European countries  that actually place their countrymen in the face of danger ?

Is Nato doomed ?




Thadius -> RE: Is NATO doomed ? (8/24/2008 2:46:08 PM)

The ships that arrived off the coast of Georgia are delivering humanitarian aid, and also acting as a deterant to Russia siezing another one of Georgia's ports..

I think NATO is more viable than the UN...

Just my thoughts,
Thadius




Politesub53 -> RE: Is NATO doomed ? (8/24/2008 2:56:25 PM)

Spain and Germany are also sending ships to the area, Nato has said this was a preplanned exercise. As i have said before, this is all about posturing. Russia is tied up in several deals with western Europe, who in turn rely on Russian gas supplies. The UK have firms drilling for Russian oil, so when push comes to shove, i can`t see much happening.




celticlord2112 -> RE: Is NATO doomed ? (8/24/2008 3:07:02 PM)

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Nato, a good idea when it was formed, but something I feel has grown out of proportion, since when did former Soviet states become part of the NORTH ATLANTIC, treaties organisation, they are not even in the same arena.

NATO is evolving beyond its original conceptualization.  It was inevitable after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the nominal end of the Cold War--the strategic imperatives that made the alliance necessary have changed, and the alliance must either adapt or dissolve.

NATO is not doomed.  Will it always be NATO?  Probably not.....but it will always be.




kittinSol -> RE: Is NATO doomed ? (8/24/2008 3:19:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Will it always be NATO?  Probably not.....but it will always be.



I'm glad to see surrealism is making a comeback. NATO won't be NATO anymore, but it will still be NATO, or the same NATO that was once, but that no longer is. Because it is what it was. Except different.




Aneirin -> RE: Is NATO doomed ? (8/24/2008 3:35:27 PM)

But warships delivering humanitarian aid, though it is admirable, is it not a double edged sword ?




Politesub53 -> RE: Is NATO doomed ? (8/24/2008 3:47:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

But warships delivering humanitarian aid, though it is admirable, is it not a double edged sword ?


My guess is Russia have stayed in the port, as much to check what is delivered, as anything else.




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