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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 7:22:49 AM   
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Such as going to public court houses, search through records regarding thier victims child custody petitions and family court records.   Land titles, digging through Genealogy records.  Figuring out the people that are related to their victim.  The list of actions going to depths and extremes.  That well, is not just that of an average stalker. 


Okay. . .

I went and pulled out my Certification of Vital Record.  Ummm. . . there is nothing on there that I would not just tell you in the first place.  Nope.  Nothing secret.  What else is in the public records. . . Oh, my marriage and divorce certificates.  Again, nothing that is a secret. 

Figuring out people that are related to me?  Well, heck. . . THAT happens whenever I come across someone who knows someone from the town I was born. 

Oh, and the google search of my name is pretty boring also.

As to telling my boss or coworkers. . . go ahead.  The only drawback for me is that they usually have A LOT of questions.  Well, I can suck that up.  I do not plan to run for public office. 

Look. . . if you are feeling that you are being stalked or that someone near and dear to you is. . . call the police and file a report.  Period.  End of sentence.

Otherwise you sound like an alarmist.  So, STOP IT.  Do something productive.   

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 7:42:29 AM   
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It’s a mistake to antagonise people, you may know what you are capable of but do you know the other person isn’t capable of murder?
I had these attractive female stalkers once it was horrendous they followed me about everywhere, so I walked into a hotel room.

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 8:01:06 AM   
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I'd agree there. lol.I think the Op needs some help.As for the stalker, so many these days have a knee jerk reaction to someone pursuing them.Depends on what the person did.If they were threatening, i could see calling the cops.If they emailed occasionally to try and work things out..I think you'd have to keep perspective on it..it was just an email, not a dead cat in your post office box lol.Sure, there are nutjobs out there but try and keep perspective.What have they done?(i'm still reading)

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 8:03:00 AM   
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Does squeezing liquid aluminum into car door locks as a method of basically saying "you too, are mortal", count?

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 8:08:52 AM   
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It would just piss me off lol.I'm a tenacious Bastard.

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 8:16:11 AM   
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It would just piss me off lol.I'm a tenacious Bastard.


But I doubt you would feel quite so immune from what you were dishing out after.

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 8:21:02 AM   
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I think you have to be careful in dealing with humans because wild animals are more predictable in how they act.

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 8:28:09 AM   
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Especially when you are stupid enough to back them into a corner. And while you are busy under the hood of her car, the "mouse" creeps up behind you and puts a gun barrel behind your ear.

Click.

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 8:31:49 AM   
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That only happens in itchy and scratchy.

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 8:58:43 AM   
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That i would agree with.

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 9:00:18 AM   
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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 9:34:50 AM   
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The timing on this post is incredible.  I'll start with saying thank you, Whiplash, for bringing it up.

I was actually having something of this conversation yesterday.  Actually, male submissive, female Dominant in this particular situation.  Bottom line is it was a situation that didn't work out.  Fair enough.  That happens to everyone once, right?  This is usually the part where both parties accept that the dynamic isn't going to be pursued, wish each other luck, and that's the end of it.  Ok.  Let's just say that's how it happens in My world.

Well, it doesn't seem that it is the way it works in other people's worlds.  Suddenly, I'm hearing from male sub that Domme is starting to use all kinds of tactics to get him to respond to her.  Basically, the buckshot approach.  Try anything and everything to see what works.  We're talking everything from "I love you" to "I never want to speak to you again."  Ridiculous numbers of instant messages, regular emails, cm mails, and phone calls.  Caller ID on the cell phone is a wonderful thing.  Heck, I even get a message Myself from Domme about him.  Of course, Domme is being polite with Me, putting the best foot forward.

A few days of this goes on and it starts becoming apparent to Me that the behavior isn't subsiding.  In fact, I'm even seeing it as becoming worse.  I'm pretty liberal when it comes to people's emotions.  I'll even give them the benefit of the doubt that, maybe this Domme is hurt by this thing not working out, and maybe she's saying some things in anger.  I can get that.  I wouldn't tell anyone not to say what is on their mind if they are needing closure.  At the same time, I only see it as being valid for so long.  In My view, a person gets that opportunity, and I'll even excuse them for perhaps not being very nice about it, but then it's over.

Nope.  Doesn't seem like that's how that works in other people's worlds either.  The unwanted contact still doesn't stop.  By this point, even a fool can see that this is obsessive behavior.  Just plain not wanting to let go or be willing to stop attempting to force communication.  This is where I start becoming concerned.  In My view, obsessive people tend to become dangerous people.  It's a huge caution sign for Me.  Being the protective sort that I am, I take up those things that I can do.  I'm still polite to the Domme, but I put My foot down with the sub.  No more contact.  Block, delete, blah, blah so hopefully the message is finally heard.

The point of all this is, we throw some terms around pretty liberally around here.  Ownership.  Property.  Things of this nature.  However, we do also have to remember that, you can't own someone who doesn't want to be owned.  You can't claim someone who doesn't want to submit.  There are those among us who are obsessive people.  We have our share of the abusive types, just like the vanillas have.  Sometimes,  I think we have to watch out for them more because it's so easy for them to hide in this lifestyle.  When those true colors come out, we have to pay attention.

While I don't particularly care for the Uber title, I can certainly identify with the way you feel on the subject, Whiplash.  I'm ever so tempted to make My position known to the Dominant woman in this particular scenario to back herself the fuck up before I introduce her to what real sadism really is and not the fun kind of way I usually use it.  No, it's not the best way to handle things, but I'm also not willing to sit back while emotional harm is attempting to be inflicted.

I guess we just found another thing in common, didn't we, Whip?


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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 10:00:56 AM   
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I personally think it's probably past time for you to say something.I know i might not like it myself but in the long run i would understand another Dominant stepping in and giving a thoughtful nudge..even if i told them off in the beginning.Hell i would see it as my duty as a human being to do so..yet that is a fine line..better make sure you are doing it for the right reasons and you have all of the facts from both sides or at least as much as you can get.

I don't condone violence yet i know if someone were to go after a loved one of mine..i wouldn't have a problem putting and end to what was going on.One way or another..it is by far the very last resort.For the record..i don't condone vindictive behavior either..any of that petty crap.I know i've said some dirty things in my life as i'm sure we all have as a relationship was ending but that's the extent of it for me.


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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 10:06:21 AM   
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Yes after going over this with a few friend in the chat room we discovered at least 3 others had been harassed by this man.  His screen name dropped out immediately after I did my thing with him.  I guess his technique worked on at least one other occasion.
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You managed to turn the tables on him, good for you. I can only think he used this approach as he had some success with it, namely getting what he wanted by using blackmail ?



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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 10:28:19 AM   
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I guess we just found another thing in common, didn't we, Whip?


Simply Amazing, it is!

Anyways, I think this guy is pushing for the Guinness world record on daily phone call averages.  It's around 120 phone calls a day.

She's been getting used to the Beeps from call waiting coming in, when she's talking to friends and family.  Every time when we talk on the I can hear the small little cut outs from the beeps.

It's obvious some people have this what if idea, that this is not really going on, or that it's not as bad as I'm making this out to be.

Really, I'm trying not to go into too many specific details.  But yes, it's up to 120+ phone calls a day.   I'm not even going to share the email and IM stats that were racked up until she figured out how to block him, and only accept Emails and IM's from people on friends list, or whitelist.   Thank God for high level Spam filters.  Unless you are on the list you are not getting through.

In regards to the personal information collected, let's just say he's already contacted one of her family members and introduced himself out of blue.

He's also made direct threats to interfer in a child custody matter by contacting her Ex, all this information from public court records.

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 10:32:00 AM   
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I personally think it's probably past time for you to say something.I know i might not like it myself but in the long run i would understand another Dominant stepping in and giving a thoughtful nudge..even if i told them off in the beginning.Hell i would see it as my duty as a human being to do so..yet that is a fine line..better make sure you are doing it for the right reasons and you have all of the facts from both sides or at least as much as you can get.

I don't condone violence yet i know if someone were to go after a loved one of mine..i wouldn't have a problem putting and end to what was going on.One way or another..it is by far the very last resort.For the record..i don't condone vindictive behavior either..any of that petty crap.I know i've said some dirty things in my life as i'm sure we all have as a relationship was ending but that's the extent of it for me.


I'm thinking the above comment was in reply to what I posted.  If it is, I'd like to respond.

I do happen to agree with you.  Certainly about the caution about the situation and knowing about all of the facts.  There is a fine line between meddling in other people's affairs and taking a position of preventing unhealthy behavior. This is exactly why I haven't had the knee-jerk reaction that I would have liked to from the onset.

I can assure you that it won't be continuing if I have anything to say about it.


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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 10:39:03 AM   
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Yes it was for you.Only you can make the assessment of what to do.If you think it's warranted, go for it.

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 10:41:20 AM   
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I would say go to the law then..if the info is correct, that sounds like harassment.

On a side note...female stalkers..mmmmmmmmm..where do i sign up?


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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 10:51:20 AM   
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We're talking everything from "I love you" to "I never want to speak to you again." 

LOL... this guy is into the same thing.  Alternating between really beautiful loving things followed by extremely hateful threatening things.

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RE: Uber Stalkers - 8/25/2008 11:00:43 AM   
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I guess we just found another thing in common, didn't we, Whip?


Simply Amazing, it is!

Anyways, I think this guy is pushing for the Guinness world record on daily phone call averages.  It's around 120 phone calls a day.

She's been getting used to the Beeps from call waiting coming in, when she's talking to friends and family.  Every time when we talk on the I can hear the small little cut outs from the beeps.

It's obvious some people have this what if idea, that this is not really going on, or that it's not as bad as I'm making this out to be.

Really, I'm trying not to go into too many specific details.  But yes, it's up to 120+ phone calls a day.   I'm not even going to share the email and IM stats that were racked up until she figured out how to block him, and only accept Emails and IM's from people on friends list, or whitelist.   Thank God for high level Spam filters.  Unless you are on the list you are not getting through.

In regards to the personal information collected, let's just say he's already contacted one of her family members and introduced himself out of blue.

He's also made direct threats to interfer in a child custody matter by contacting her Ex, all this information from public court records.

It's time to take the phone records and hand them over to the proper people.   There's no way 120 calls a day couldn't be seen as harassment.

I'd have probably lost the control as soon as someone tried to manipulate anyone by involving the little people.  In My view, that's an area you don't screw with ever. 



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