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lecherous -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 1:04:20 AM)

I don't want to become the kid who thinks he's unique cause he complains a lot, but personally I envy the older generations for this reason. Everything felt more special. Somehow I just feel like before internet and mobile phones were around, we had more appreciation for peoples' company and attention. To be talking to someone, to recieve a letter or a visit, is so much more comforting than a text or E-mail.



rookey -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 1:52:39 AM)

Yeah there's few things better than a well-written letter, e-mail or posting.  One that's well thought out and has a well chosen set of sweet and succient words.  Words that grab you, words with original meaning is what people want to read.  Not the sort of 'empty' words in off-the-cuff one-liner. 

Edited for spelling mastikes, [sm=bury.gif]



sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 1:55:02 AM)

from the email messages i've received recently, no one writes anymore.  there might be a couple of lines containing "hi, my name is whatever the domly/femdomly name of day is" and then followed by "let's chat" or the ever dreaded "add my msn/yahoo to your friends list now". or usually i get "here's my msn/yahoo - let's chat there ...i don't like sending messages here". over the weekend i received a message from a young femdom who automatically sent me her msn/yahoo ids and that's it.

for privacy reasons, i don't like giving away my yahoo/msn ids (especially not after first message) until i'm comfortable, trust and really know that person. so i prefer to write long, winded messages to express myself and my thoughts to them. many (male) dominants i've noticed aren't particularly too fond in a woman like myself who takes the time to write a well thought out message back to them. one dominant told me that it was the very first thing he would change about me - he didn't want a submissive who expressed herself like that ...he preferred them silent while he does all of the talking - of course he got blocked after that.

writing long letters are for sentimental "dinosaurs" ...mpst prefer instant chatting because it's quicker and less stress on the fingers.



RCdc -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 2:54:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl
writing long letters are for sentimental "dinosaurs" ...mpst prefer instant chatting because it's quicker and less stress on the fingers.


Cool, I'll be a diplodocus.
Well, unlike you, I do not find sentimentality a bad thing - I'm not an unfeeling person with no emotions.  You can communicate on paper, just as you can on IM or over the phone.  Writing is personal... you can record words verbally also as hearing letters.  I personally find people who do not take the time to write or express their thoughts in any medium too lazy for me.
If people did not write, then songs would never exist.
 
the.dark.



WhiplashSmile2 -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 3:34:50 AM)

I'll sit and write letter emails from time to time.   When it comes to hand written letters, I do this when I'm sending somebody a card.



StrangerThan -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 4:33:03 AM)

I've always equated the two or three line email and desire to jump immediately to IM as an indicator to the personality I have in front of me. Simply finding someone fell off my radar years ago. If there was not at least the potential for whatever developed to have some time and distance to it in terms of relationship, I wasn't interested. Been there, done that and it just no longer holds any value to get involved just to be involved - and that's how that type of thing comes across sometimes.

The first indicator to whether any longevitiy was possible has always been how much time a person takes in responding. Doesn't mean I think less of them. It means I don't want to be involved with them. In filtering out the social butterflies and players, the first sign to me is the inability to compose more than a couple of lines in response regardless of how you approach them. It's just about instant road-kill if there's text speak involved, you know the 'wow. ur hot!" kind of thing.

I think the stage was set for that during my one and only venture into a chat room years ago. After watching a ton of crap spew across the screen for a couple of minutes, a little window popped up with something like hotslutgirl's name on it, says, r u horny?

I wrote back. Depends

She didn't waste much effort on figuring out what depends meant. Just "on?"

My response was on whether you can compose a sentence of more than three words and spell them all correctly.

Basically it boils down to a handful of things. Either the person 1. suffers a decided lack of time, 2. is fending off the herd, which you have just become one of, or 3. either isn't capable or doesn't want to invest the time. None of those options appeal to me.

I'm verbose. I write a lot. I don't expect others to do the same. I do expect them however, to invest at least the time to figure out whether or not I'm an axe murderer or if they're going to be notch 93 on my leather strap this year. If they're not up to any of those things, well, it comes across to me as a supreme waste of time trying to communicate with someone I probably don't want to hang around with anyway.



Dnomyar -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 4:45:58 AM)

If someone writes a long post on here I just skip over it. Sometimes I ramble on a write a long letter but I like to get to the point. I have a very short attention span when people start telling me a long story. People tell me Im to curt. If I have a question to ask I skip the formalities and just ask the question. To me I am not being rude by not saying hello first. It is just the way I am. The other side of me likes to write poetry and short stories. Go figure.



Samantha657 -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 4:57:56 AM)

I absolutely still write letters both email and handwritten. I design the card they are written on and have even been known to make the paper.

Letters are fantastic and I wish more people would write back.



sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 8:24:09 AM)

did i say it was a bad thing?

i'm a sentimental dino myself ...full of feelings and emotions. i still script letters in ink and quill handwriting to penning manscripts in notebooks before typing on computers. i still have my typewriter from college (in excellent working condition but i doubt if they still sell the ink cartridges) which i drag out time to time.  though i can send my UMs excused absences via email to their schools, i prefer the handwritten note.



DiurnalVampire -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 8:27:36 AM)

I still write long emails, to people who are not around here who I do not see often. I do not write long drawn out missives to someone I will be seeing that day or the next, becasue it seems pointless not to just say it to their faces.
I still write hand written letters and notes too, Fox has a collection of the little love notes he has gotten that have been laying around the house since we met.





FlamingRedhead -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 9:37:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha


But are you experiencing what I am about to describe also?


So I assume that like me, you all like to read a long letter and respond to it.  Or, is it just me?  Is the preference to keep it short and sweet and get right to IM and phone?  Is there any purpose for longer forms of communication?


Dear AAkasha,
 
I'm sorry that you've been a little miffed as of late.  I think it must be a sign of the times because I've likewise been experiencing a shortfall in effective communication.  I don't send email nearly as much as I used to.  In fact, I have only one pen pal.  People use email to forward silly chain letters but not any actual information about what they've been up to.  I prefer to talk on the phone, now.
 
I met Daddy via cmail.  He was outside of my demographics, but instead of just deleting all the bulk mail, I decided to open it.  Wonder of wonders!  There was a greeting, body, and closing.  I couldn't help but be polite and respond in similar fashion.  We communicated this way for a couple of weeks, eventually divulging our first names, yahoo IDs, and phone numbers.  We met shortly after talking on the phone.
 
I don't think the problem is that people don't want to write letters.  I believe the real issue is lack of etiquette.  People online are too familiar and don't practice what used to be known as common courtesy.  My one pen pal and I might start our letters off without a greeting and end without a closing, but we've known each other for over a year.  Our emails are like continuing conversations.  Until you develop a repoire with someone, a little formality should be used.  I suspect that the same people who send one-line messages such as "r u horny" are the same disgusting pigs who approach you at a bar and ask "wanna fuck?"  The sad thing is that it must work eventually.  Otherwise, you'd think they'd change their tactic.
 
If you're trying to meet someone online, longer forms of communication can help you determine whether someone has a little class.  It helps weed out those who want to move too fast.  If you're impressed by what they have to say, chances are good that they're worth meeting in person.
 
I hope this answer was helpful to you.  If you have any further questions, please do not hesititate to contact me.
 
Sincerely,
 
FlamingRedhead



justgemmie -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 9:48:03 AM)

greetings Aakasha

many, Many years ago i used to do a lot of speed.  when everyone else would fall asleep and i was the only one still awake, i'd hand write my friend P in Rhode Island.  the letters would end up 15-20-25 pages long  [:D]   when i quit getting high, she told me the only thing she missed were those long, rambling letters of everything in my life.

i don't care to hand write letters really, and have been that way for quite a while now.  i'm a secretary and tend to want to change to shorthand  LOL  but seriously, i love long rambling emails ..... both writing them and receiving them.  and i still do it, just not as often as i used to.  truth is, i really really dislike "chatting" on the phone.  although i don't mind IMs cause, again, being a secretary, typing comes easily and naaturally for me.

however, if there is an issue that is serious to me, i tend to write an explicit and detailed email to the person the issue is with.  like stated earilier in the thread, i can backspace, delete, reword, re-think a lot and get my feelings and emotions and thoughts across much more clearly by writing them.  if i just try talking first, i'll forget stuff, or it doesn't come out right, or i'll sometimes get emotional and lose track of where the discussion was going, etc.

dang, meant this to be shorter.  bottom line is ... i still write long emails, love to receive them, and wish more folks liked doing it too.

well wishes,
gemmie



LATEXBABY64 -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 9:55:41 AM)

oh yes pen and paper a true lost art form  but that just are techie way of life these days



Dnomyar -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 10:44:13 AM)

Readhead I like the way you put it. "A continuing conversations".



TreasureKY -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 10:45:00 AM)

I can empathize with what your saying, AAkasha, and to a certain extent I agree.  However, my experiences have also made me appreciate the value of IM...

The few doms that I spoke with before meeting Firm were the kind who wrote email.  We'd have long back and forth conversations, but for the most part, they were confined to email.  We'd only use instant messenger rarely, and the phone even more rarely. 

What I discovered, was that for the most part these guys stuck to email because it enabled them to engage with me on their own terms.  They could write what they wanted, take their time to think about how they wanted to respond, ignore my questions, gloss over and bs whole topics of conversations, and communicate when it was convenient for them (ie, when "the little woman" wasn't around).  Plus, they also had the advantage of previous emails to other subs that they could "recycle" to save themselves time while making it look like they'd made an investment of time in me.

As much as I do enjoy the depth that can be had with lengthy emails, with IM, the person you are talking to has to think on their feet.  It's harder for them to "miss" a question you might ask.  You have the immediate opportunity to ask for clarification or call them on their bs.  You know you aren't receiving some canned email, subtly personalized, that's gone out to a dozen other subs.  And though not perfect, you get a better idea if there is someone else who might be otherwise dominating his time.

Firm and I exchanged relatively short introductory emails but went immediately to IM, then phone.  Aside from a couple of emails that I sent him sharing some thoughts during our "courtship", we just didn't communicate like that in email.   While it doesn't work for everyone, I have to say, I'm much happier with the results.  [;)]



ExSteelAgain -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 2:33:21 PM)

Years ago delivering mail by the Pony Express was a radical way to communicate, I suppose. People probably said you better slow down if you got a letter a week. Who writes regular mail now? Why? Who even writes email now?

IM's are instantaneous and let us play on each other's feelings. If you are compatible intellectually, IM's are a blast and a great way to get to know someone.



masterofdrkness2 -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 3:48:58 PM)

I think it steams from the instant response , back when we use to have to write letters .. you would spend a good part of your day writing the letter, go mail it ,then if you was lucky the person you sent  it to  got it in 3 days . then if they wrote you back that was another 3 - 4 days . you had to tell them everything you wanted at that given time or wait a few days later to tell them. in many cases by the time they got the mail things had changed .. now you can in the blink of a eye send some one a quick note and before you get your inbox closed they have answered. it is more of a constant comunication  , you don't have to think about every thing you want to tell some one at one time . but now you can tell them as it happens or as you remeber it. I do not think it is  less personal  or even inpolite  but more of a constant comunication, we may send 25 e- mail's to tell what we use to in 1 letter . just because it is so convinant , now we have text messaging . no need for phone calls anymore right? I know this because my daughter text's me from the back seat of the car . lol



AAkasha -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 4:08:45 PM)

FR:

Interesting responses - thanks to everyone.

Femdoms, for those of you with an active profile and who receive the dozens and dozens of emails from subs asking for consideration, what would happen if you told them "In order to be considered, you'll need to handwrite your letter of application and mail it to me via the postal service. I'll email you once I receive it." How many do you think would do it?

I wonder only because I think it would drastically reduce the number of men who are insincere.  If a man read your profile and the only way to contact you was by putting a stamp on an envelope and writing a good old fashioned letter, it requires some effort - not just cut, paste, send. And not just type a few words and then hit send. 

For those ladies who think maybe asking for a tribute or gift is a way to weed out those men who are not serious, I think this letter writing idea is a great one.  I mean really - if a guy cares, he will take the time to sit down and compose a letter and put it in the mail, and the process will take him some time and also demonstrate he has patience.  I get a sense that 98% of the submissives that contact femdoms on here just want the immediate gratification of a response. Any response.  Period.

Akasha



sodsta -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 4:10:16 PM)

To be honest, I much prefer emails to IM or phone because it gives me time to think about what I'm going to say. I can edit and correct things when I'm composing an email, and if I read it back and think something sounds stupid, I can change it. Can't do that with IM or email... I feel very on the spot with those and that freaks me out a bit sometimes.



AAkasha -> RE: Rant: Do people write letters anymore? (8/27/2008 4:14:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sodsta

To be honest, I much prefer emails to IM or phone because it gives me time to think about what I'm going to say. I can edit and correct things when I'm composing an email, and if I read it back and think something sounds stupid, I can change it. Can't do that with IM or email... I feel very on the spot with those and that freaks me out a bit sometimes.


Ahh and this is why your emails are always so lovely!! :)
I think that's why a good mix of email and IM/phone is good.  But too many subs around here just want to do IM or talk on the phone and don't like to write emails.  I am not one to make subs write "journals" but maybe that's the solution - by the very nature of it, it should require some thought and introspection and be a bit wordier....

Akasha



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