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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 10:42:58 PM

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I think you`ve been spanked,again Al.

This time, by a girl.

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Anyway....

This is getting a lot of play .

Hilarious.

This is their wise choice?!?

Red Herring, totally irrelevant.

Next.

So irrelevent,you just had to respond.lol

FYI,it doesn`t look good.

Looks pretty bad really and it`s getting a lot of hits on Youtube.

As opposed to:

'this is so bad nobody is responding to it'

Two girls with a cup got a shitload of hits too, doesn't make it relevant.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 10:46:40 PM

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Hey Thadius,someone once told me that politics make for strange bedfellows...go figure
So Al the new rule is, no discussing of possible points of interest until and unless all evidence is in,I really wish someone would send me these memos...

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 10:49:56 PM

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"As opposed to:

'this is so bad nobody is responding to it'

Two girls with a cup got a shitload of hits too, doesn't make it relevant."

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If they were a heart`s beat away from a 72 y/o,it would be relevant.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 10:54:05 PM

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So Al the new rule is, no discussing of possible points of interest until and unless all evidence is in,I really wish someone would send me these memos...

'Discuss' away, if you fancy the high school debate team sophistry you've been putting out as 'discussing'.

And feel free to continue sniping at me for poking holes in the lies about Obama, or the BS about anyone else... that seems to be about all you can do.

Just don't expect me to not laugh at the logical howlers you refuse to discuss.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 10:55:38 PM

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After she took office, she clearly stated that the state would figure out the most fiscally responsible way of increasing transport to the island, with her recommending increasing the ferry service.

Meanwhile Sen Stevens was still lobbying for funding (like he always has) and trying to get the bridge project reupped. To which she said no thanks.

Is that a little clearer? Or is the info the blogger provided more believable because of who it is targeted at?

Yes, it's clear to me...
Getting to Know Her, Part I: Fairbanks Paper Hits Palin Veep Pick By E&P Staff Published: August 29, 2008 7:10 PM ET NEW YORK Since, even as her leading backers admit, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska is unknown nationally -- until today, when she was picked by John McCain as his running mate -- E&P will provide a number of pieces in coming days about her, taken strictly from Alaska newspapers and reporters for same.
"The first one comes from the Daily News-Miner in Fairbanks, Alaska. Surprisingly, considering she is now the highest profile political figure to ever come from Alaska, the newspaper in an editorial posted on its site today declared her flatly not qualified for the office of vice president. It also brought up an intriguing fact. Palin in her speech on Friday -- also a point used by McCain surrogates -- is that she refused to go along with the plan to build the so-called "bridge to nowhere" in her state, wanting to halt wasteful spending. But the Fairbanks editorial points out that the state still kept the money for the project."
"There was also some pandering right from the start. “I told Congress `Thanks but no thanks on that bridge to nowhere,’ ” Palin reported to the crowd in Dayton, Ohio. “If our state wanted a bridge, I said, we’d build it ourselves.” But the state kept the bridge money. That’s because Alaskans pay federal gas taxes and they expect a good share to come back, just like people do in every other state. We build very little by ourselves, and any governor who would turn that tax money down likely would be turned out of office."

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003844472

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 10:57:14 PM

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ahhh! What a relief.

Thanks for the permission.

But please be on hand to keep score and award/take away credibility points.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 10:57:41 PM

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Mike,

I was just surprised to see you jumping on this particular issue. Know what I mean? I have no problems with folks bringing up possible scandals and such. This one just seems like a mountain out of a molehill.

Let's even assume for a moment that Palin did contact this safety guy about "why was so and so still representing the department?". Would that not be a valid question about a police officer that has allegedly (I don't know the facts of if it was proven, but the guy that got fired said the cop was punished already for these things) drinking on duty, killing game animals out of season, and using a tazer on a 10 year old?

See where my problem with the story comes in is, if the guy was being pressured to do x,y, and z to somebody, and he disagreed with it, and still had his job, why not go public with it? Instead of waiting until sometime after he was fired and then claiming that was the reason.

Just my thoughts on this one,
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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:00:21 PM

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......She would be a terrific Domme...if she isnt one already....

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:00:57 PM

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And if she and her husband made calls and knew of others, why did she claim there was one call from a staffer and that was it?

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:01:21 PM

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So Al the new rule is, no discussing of possible points of interest until and unless all evidence is in,I really wish someone would send me these memos...

'Discuss' away, if you fancy the high school debate team sophistry you've been putting out as 'discussing'.

And feel free to continue sniping at me for poking holes in the lies about Obama, or the BS about anyone else... that seems to be about all you can do.

Just don't expect me to not laugh at the logical howlers you refuse to discuss.

Al I am distressed,do you actually feel like I'm "sniping"at you,my apologies .The last thing I wanted to do was upset you.BTW if my "high school debate team sophistry does not interest you,feel free to skip my post's.I for one will continue to read yours...they are a never ending source of entertainment to me and I of course thank you.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:01:24 PM

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Mike, hold the goddamn phone.

Now me and Al go cats and dogs alla time. But by god, he has a 'right reason' and he can butress his opinions by logic and the dint of history.

Dont matter if I agree with it, gives me pause.. and it don't matter if you agree with me....

I also notice a lot of overall tap dancing around the obvious question of why would the labor union lie in order to help a Republican governor do such a thing? That 'investigation' is remarkably short on facts, for people to be drawing such broad conclusions.

Even if I were to say that McCain was a bathroom cocksucker, and his choice of VP was a pussy licker and there was a vast conspiracy to cover it up...........

I woulld have to (as a reasonable and not too pedantic human being) pause and give this some thought.

In a very few words, I would have to ask ol' Al here, do you have further cites, or is this an opinion..........what labor unions? widespread? good ol 129 Barrows with a chairman of John McCain?

I will do loutish out here, OK? You ain't god anything sardonic enough in you to equal it, well; maybe after the worms have chewed on me a couple of years.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:03:23 PM

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The Department of Transportation has approximately $36 million in federal funds that will become available for other projects with the shutdown of the Gravina Island bridge project.

Hardly the same money, or for a bridge.

That is from one of your earlier links.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:03:25 PM

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Sorry about that,didn't think it posted and redid it(Ilike the second response better,so this one got edited)

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:09:53 PM

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ahhh! What a relief.

Thanks for the permission.

But please be on hand to keep score and award/take away credibility points.

See, I have the fun part.. I only have to see through the BS, and make fun of it. Easy to do, to right wingers, left wingers, and fakes of all stripes.

You have to keep spinning the hatemongering, and obsess over everyone who is poking holes in it, and maintain the front of a faux liberal, while attacking anyone who brings up progressive issues... oh yeah and while ranting about those evil history books, and damn factual references.

I dont think you're up to the task.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:12:44 PM

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Well excuseee me Ron,but you know we all got to start somewhere...and Al seems as good a place as any to cut my eye teeth on.Sardonic I can do,its respectful and thoughtful I have a problem with.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:19:11 PM

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And if she and her husband made calls and knew of others, why did she claim there was one call from a staffer and that was it?

You are mixing up folks, the phone call from the staffer was to a big wig in the police department.

We is going in circles on this one. I will concede that she abused her power by firing a guy she had every legal right to do, if you will research the Obama/Biden/Rezko connections and post those results.

Deal?

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:21:10 PM

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Now you're talking buddy, you get him first, why; is it so ignorant for him to question (rather reasonably in my view) that a union would not back the play, as I gotta tell you, if there was a grain of truth to it, one might consider they would gnaw it like a bone, being lazy welfare sucking democrats and all......

You go, buddy......

I will back your play. You start the well reasoned argument destroying his impudence and i will fill in the blanks.

Or......

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:24:07 PM

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I don't begrudge her from firing anyone she wants to fire. It's the dishonesty. It's certainly rampant on both sides of the aisle, but I also certainly hope that we don't ever stop calling attention to it. This thread is about Palin and you seem to have no concerns about her as VP and possible P, based on as much information as I have to be concerned.

It's really cute how confused you think I am.

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:27:47 PM

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Mike,

I was just surprised to see you jumping on this particular issue. Know what I mean? I have no problems with folks bringing up possible scandals and such. This one just seems like a mountain out of a molehill.

Let's even assume for a moment that Palin did contact this safety guy about "why was so and so still representing the department?". Would that not be a valid question about a police officer that has allegedly (I don't know the facts of if it was proven, but the guy that got fired said the cop was punished already for these things) drinking on duty, killing game animals out of season, and using a tazer on a 10 year old?

See where my problem with the story comes in is, if the guy was being pressured to do x,y, and z to somebody, and he disagreed with it, and still had his job, why not go public with it? Instead of waiting until sometime after he was fired and then claiming that was the reason.

Just my thoughts on this one,
Thadius

Thadius to be sure ,I like you don't have all the facts in this case,and in truth I don't care.What I think is worth discussing,on a national level as opposed to this possible local scandle,is the thought process that went into the decision on McCains part.
Should not the appearence of impropriety have dissuaded McCain from making this choice.Coming as it does on the heels of the Bsh administrations own Justice Dept scandle doesn't this just butress the opinion of McCain representing a third term for Bush policies.
And how does this choice help McCain with independants or those Hillary supporters that he would seem to be wooing.This is a flat out reach and a foolhardy gamble that will not reap the benifits it is aimed at.IMO a McCain Presidency promises more inexplicable and questionable decisions.If this is how he chooses a running mate can you imagine the confirmation hearings when he selects a Justice for the Court..

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RE: President Palin? - 8/29/2008 11:30:27 PM

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So Al the new rule is, no discussing of possible points of interest until and unless all evidence is in,I really wish someone would send me these memos...

'Discuss' away, if you fancy the high school debate team sophistry you've been putting out as 'discussing'.

And feel free to continue sniping at me for poking holes in the lies about Obama, or the BS about anyone else... that seems to be about all you can do.

Just don't expect me to not laugh at the logical howlers you refuse to discuss.

Al I am distressed,do you actually feel like I'm "sniping"at you,my apologies .The last thing I wanted to do was upset you.BTW if my "high school debate team sophistry does not interest you,feel free to skip my post's.I for one will continue to read yours...they are a never ending source of entertainment to me and I of course thank you.

As entertaining as your story about how her ex brother in law was fired from his job as a state trooper? And accusing me of sarcasm for asking how long the man had been without work, because you knew he had never been fired? Talk about 'doth protest too much'