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peppermint -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (8/31/2008 6:14:33 PM)

If I were asked for my definition of 24/7 I'd have to agree with kiwisub12...living in same household.  I cringe on occasion when I hear of people who haven't even met face to face who consider themselves 24/7. 

However, if someone wants to consider their relationship 24/7 while living apart, it does not bother me. 



sweetnurseBBW -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (8/31/2008 7:26:10 PM)

I wouldn't worry about other peoples definitions. I would just worry about what works for the both of you. Don't let the ramblings of strangers on the internet create doubt.



natasha66 -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (8/31/2008 7:28:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sweetnurseBBW

I wouldn't worry about other peoples definitions. I would just worry about what works for the both of you. Don't let the ramblings of strangers on the internet create doubt.

I don't LOL.



RCdc -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 2:45:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

If I were asked for my definition of 24/7 I'd have to agree with kiwisub12...living in same household.  I cringe on occasion when I hear of people who haven't even met face to face who consider themselves 24/7. 

However, if someone wants to consider their relationship 24/7 while living apart, it does not bother me. 

I disagree with both peppermint and kiwi.  Leaving aside the whole assumption that just because you do not live together, you have never met, which we know isn't true for all relationships - if you were in an everyday relationship - insisting that 24/7 anything only occurs when you are living together negates most relationships.  People dating are still boyfriends and girlfriends 24/7.  I am still a mother 24/7 even when they are not with me.
 
There is an automatic assumption that 24/7 means 24/7 physical servitude and it isn't.  If someone did that, they would be collapsed in hospital after a few days.  The op was quite clear in stating 24/7 slave.  You don't 'have to' live together for that to be a fact.
 
the.dark.



UglyTruth -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 2:49:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

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ORIGINAL: peppermint

If I were asked for my definition of 24/7 I'd have to agree with kiwisub12...living in same household.  I cringe on occasion when I hear of people who haven't even met face to face who consider themselves 24/7. 

However, if someone wants to consider their relationship 24/7 while living apart, it does not bother me. 

I disagree with both peppermint and kiwi.  Leaving aside the whole assumption that just because you do not live together, you have never met, which we know isn't true for all relationships - if you were in an everyday relationship - insisting that 24/7 anything only occurs when you are living together negates most relationships.  People dating are still boyfriends and girlfriends 24/7.  I am still a mother 24/7 even when they are not with me.
 
There is an automatic assumption that 24/7 means 24/7 physical servitude and it isn't.  If someone did that, they would be collapsed in hospital after a few days.  The op was quite clear in stating 24/7 slave.  You don't 'have to' live together for that to be a fact.
 
the.dark.


Quoted for truth.



colouredin -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 2:50:23 AM)

FR

I love this debate, people so often freak out when i mention  24/7 they believe it means that i want to constantly be cuffed up to the radiator or something. 24/7 is a mindset.

It means that you arent playing a role in the bedroom it means that the undercurrent of the dynamic is always there. Not always overtly and its not about calling someone Sir or bowing your head its about the knowledge its that at any time he can tell you to do something and you do it, even the mundane (make him a cup of coffee) If it werent 24/7 then id respond ' make it yourself you lazy sod' 24/7 means you dont.

It doesnt mean you dont laugh or joke, it doesnt mean you dont have an opinion it does mean if you go to far you are stopped and you respect that (again something you dont always do outside of the dynamic)

of course this is all just what it means to me :)



natasha66 -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 6:13:21 AM)

colouredin, you put into words exactly what i meant to say, only much more eloquently - thank you!!!!



robertolapiedra -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 6:19:09 AM)

Hello pepperment. I agree but with adding this. If one  thinks of herself as a 24/7 submissive and is not living  full time with her dominant what would one call someone who is actually in full time Ds? The same?

I can see someone saying she is full time in a poetic sense but should qualify the meaning : I am a proud 24/7 in my heart but am not in reality in a 24/7 relationship. To me it's like saying ''I am married to someone full time'' but in the common understanding of these things the person would be ''engaged'' and living apart most of the time. Does not bother me, but don't tell me it is the same as in my 24/7.

I don't care about what labels people give themselves but in communication it is nice to have the same reference once in while. The whole ''as if'' argument is not very serious in my neck of the woods. RL



catize -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 6:23:14 AM)

I'm a nurse.  Whether I am at my place of employment or at home, the grocery store etc. I am still a nurse.



DesFIP -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 7:10:11 AM)

For me it includes living together. That it is reasonable for him to choose to make any and all decisions that occur to him. I  think that when you live apart, there are an awful lot of decisions that will never occur to him to make. Such as choosing zucchini or broccoli for dinner. Should the toilet paper hang with the loose end down or over the top. I think in a non live in relationship, you simply have a great deal more latitude.



RCdc -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 7:27:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

For me it includes living together. That it is reasonable for him to choose to make any and all decisions that occur to him. I  think that when you live apart, there are an awful lot of decisions that will never occur to him to make. Such as choosing zucchini or broccoli for dinner. Should the toilet paper hang with the loose end down or over the top. I think in a non live in relationship, you simply have a great deal more latitude.


There are an awful lot of relationships where people live apart and the dominant chooses their s-types diet.  By your reasoning, your relationship isn't 24/7 when your partner is out at work, or you are shopping because he isn't making all the decisions.
 
24/7 doesn't = micromanagement.
 
the.dark.



KnightofMists -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 7:37:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark
24/7 doesn't = micromanagement.
 

 
I kinda of chuckled when I saw the previous post.  I can't tell you how many times I have seen submissive persons wig out at the idea of Micromanagement... but yet... when discussing 24/7... it is all about micro-management........... their inconsistency is rather amusing.



colouredin -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 7:38:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: robertolapiedra

To me it's like saying ''I am married to someone full time'' but in the common understanding of these things the person would be ''engaged'' and living apart most of the time. Does not bother me, but don't tell me it is the same as in my 24/7.



So does this mean that if a married couple live apart they are no longer married? And if they describe themselves as 24/7 but dont live together then they are the equivilant of being engaged why because they are all aspiring to 'your 24/7' because 'your 24/7' is the holy grail? Or maybe the point is that is YOUR 27/7 its no more or less valid than anyone elses, and if the relationship is fullfilling who cares what words you use to describe it yours isnt the architype no ones is.



kyraofMists -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 7:43:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
I think in a non live in relationship, you simply have a great deal more latitude.


That may be true in some relationships, but I know that it isn't true in all relationships.  He exercised authority over the things that were important to him.  The things that were not important to him, he told me to handle.  That did not change when I moved in about 9 months ago.  He still doesn't care how the toilet paper is put on, there just better be some when he needs it.

Some of the commonly stated lines of how live-in is "so much more" than living apart, I have found hold very little merit when it comes to my relationship.  My relationship did not become more emotionally intense, more structured or more restrictive once I moved in.  What did happen was that everything became so much easier once I moved in; our life is now so simple and fluid.  All the pieces just fit perfectly and we flow so smoothly together.

Knight's Kyra



Icarys -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 7:48:45 AM)

You can't serve someone 24/7 if it takes you a day to get to their house or if the next plane won't leave till Sunday. I agree with kiwi though, you can call it what you want. I call a duck a goose on occasion.



RCdc -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 7:54:11 AM)

You cannot 'serve' anyone 24/7 even if you are joined at the hip.
 
the.dark.



Icarys -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 7:55:23 AM)

It sure does make it available though.



Icarys -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 7:58:28 AM)

If your only available part time, you only serve part time. That's realistic in my view. Of course if someone wants to delude themselves into thinking pink is black they are welcome to. I kind of enjoy the terms, they still have real meaning to me.



ChampagneMojito -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 7:59:59 AM)

Control, whenever and however she wishes to exercise it. This can be very subtle, to significant, to little or no control, but the ablity to express her control of me is always there.



KnightofMists -> RE: What does 24/7 mean to you? (and a mini rant i suppose) (9/1/2008 8:06:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Icarys

You can't serve someone 24/7 if it takes you a day to get to their house or if the next plane won't leave till Sunday. I agree with kiwi though, you can call it what you want. I call a duck a goose on occasion.


service comes in alot of different forms......... it can be direct or indirect... it can be active or passive

I would agree that Direct Active Service must be in the presence of their Dominant....

But.. well... I can't have her on the end of my dick 24/7 nor can anyone else... so if you want to delude yourself thinking that 24/7 is always Direct and Active... then rock on with your deluded self.



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