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Hippiekinkster -> RE: Barry's big flip (9/1/2008 2:36:40 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Thadius
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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster
Agreed. Thadius does a good job maintaining relevancy. I still don't know if he is able to change his position upon acquiring new data (flip-flopping, to the rigid ideologues), but I would like to think so. I give zero credence to one particular poster who claimed I said I didn't know where aspirin came from, but just couldn't seem to find where I said that, even after repeated requests.
I want to know what, if anything, McSame and Palin will do after ANWR has been drilled and the recovery proves to be inadequate.
I want to know why Palin believes it acceptable to teach the cultural creation myth she believes in in Science classes to the exclusion of all other cultural creation myths.
I want to know if McPOW is suffering PTSD after his years in captivity.
I want to know why McBush wants to deny Americans the same quality of health care that he gets.
I want to know why the anti-freedom-of-choice Palin completely ignores the soul in her beliefs about when life begins.
for starters...
I have no problem with changing my position if I find it to be the wrong one, I am a realist not an idealist, however at times I have idealistic goals. I'm very much the same, except I am on the other side of the aisle from you.
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You do realize the way that natural gas is found and recovered? So there is going to be lots of drilling regardless of which ticket is elected. Simply no choice on that one. I have a little familiarity with the oil patch. I spent almost 10 years with Shell E&P (Houston-Bellaire Research Center) working in the Enhanced Recovery Research Department. This is a decent primer on the topic: http://www.naturalgas.org/naturalgas/well_completion.asp
There won't be all that many wells spudded. It costs a lot of money to lease a rig, get it shipped to the Arctic, get all the drilling fluid components up there, build a camp, fly or truck in the food and other supplies, ship in the casing etc., build the rataining pond for spent mud, et cetera. As of today, I don't have any real environmental objections to drilling, as long as SOTA teks are used to prevent ground contamination. I oppose it because the US is not in dire need of ANWR and other restricted reserves yet. This is a whole other topic, though. No hijack.
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From what I understand of her position on teaching creationism, it is not an exclusive thing, it is supposed to be in addition to evolution, I would guess that if other creationist theories were presented they could be taught as well. Explain to me again why keeping information away from folks is bad? Shouldn't they be able to compare and contrast and then make an educated decision on the evidence or lack of that either or all present? First off, Creationism is NOT a competing theory. It is mythology, pure and simple, and has no place in a science classroom. There is no information being imparted. It does not meet the rigid criteria of being a Scientific Theory.
"Kenneth R. Miller, a biology professor from Brown University and noted author and commentator opposed to the intelligent design and creationist movements, was the first witness. He testified as an expert witness that "Intelligent design is not a testable theory and as such is not generally accepted by the scientific community." He said that the idea of intelligent design was not subject to falsification, but many claims made by intelligent-design advocates had been falsified. Asked what the harm was in reading the statement, Miller gave a two-fold response. 1) "[I]t falsely undermines the scientific status of evolutionary theory and gives students a false understanding of what theory actually means."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District
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One side believes that it is conception, and one side believes at birth. A particular candidate says he isn't sure when a baby is entitled to human rights, as it is above his pay grade. My point is that this is ultimately a religious question (when life begins), so it follows that a fetus isn't a human being until it acquires a soul. When is that?
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As Biden is just a couple years younger that McCain, should we worry about his brain surgery? Careful what you ask for in comparisons [;)]
Perhaps that is a valid question as well; however, Biden isn't running for POTUS, is he?
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