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McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Program - 8/31/2008 1:35:54 PM

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ST. PAUL — The Republican National Convention has suspended all but the most necessary activities to constitute a convention Monday and then will adjourn, John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee announced Sunday.
The convention “will suspend all activities except those that are absolutely necessary,” McCain said. “We hope to resume some normal activities but frankly that is the hands of God.”
Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan said that no additional activities will be planned until the damage from Hurricane Gustav is known. He added that all activities at the convention will be procedural and not political.

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“We must redirect our efforts from the really celebratory event of the nomination of president and vice president of our party to acting as all Americans,” McCain told reporters. He and Palin received a closed-door briefing by officials with the Mississippi Emergency Management Agency.
“We’ll change our program and I’ll be announcing details of it in the next few hours. But there’s very little doubt that we have to go from a party event to a call to the nation for action, action to help our fellow citizens in this time of tragedy and disaster, action in the form of volunteering, donations, reaching out our hands and our hearts and our wallets to the people who are under such great threat from this great natural disaster,” he said.
McCain called on party members to “act as Americans” and “not as Republicans” because “America needs us now.”

Guess that answers some questions...

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 1:59:05 PM

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Well, I don't know it answers any questions, and it seems like as head of the party there was a president should have did that...

I will applaud McCain, briefly... a double edged sword.

Politically astute, and political suicide, lotta people looking for national recognition and could have tailored thier speeches to hand wringing soliloquies about the humanity of it....

But yeah, thats about all there is to do now.............

slow down and get a good seat to gawk at the impending train wreck.

While I can wish it, not everybody is going to be safe, or spared devastation (again).

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 2:19:11 PM

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Well, they did say that another attack on the country would work in McCain's favor. Seems it goes for natural disasters as well. Think of it: no pomp, no speeches... no possible misstatements by the newbie VP... just anoint McCain, and they don't have to lie or tap dance once about the record of the last eight years....

On the other hand... that means the GOP doesn't get it's moment to steal away the perk of the DNC last week. No, America will be left with two overriding images: one of Democrat Obama standing before a crowd of 84,000 cheering people, and one of Republican John McCain accepting his party's nomination in a state of emergency, crossed with news footage of Gustav slamming into New Orleans... harkening back to what the Bush administration failed to do three years ago.

Hard to say which way it will fall out, politically.

But as far as New Orleans itself goes, I just hope we DON'T end up with a repeat of Katrina. Obama has put out the word that he's opened his web fundraising network to co-ordinate donations, both of money and of water, food and medical help. to help those caught in the storm, and to help volunteers to make contact with the proper authorities to help out. I'm sure McCain will do the same. Politics aside, we have bigger fish to fry right now.

My thoughts and prayers go with the entire city, and especially to the several people I've made friends with after Katrina, who were evacuated to my small town when that hurricane hit. Last fall, they finally moved back to their old homes, and were starting reconstruction in earnest... and now this.

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 2:53:46 PM

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hmmm.........my first reaction to this is that it is against the spirit of the democratic process. i can see how it leaves fewer hostages to fortune and is, arguably, a sane respose to Gustav.......but surely postponing it for a week would have been better. That way they could have the full monty and still react appropriately to Gustav. As it stands the US public has been a bit short changed.......

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 2:58:20 PM

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well, phil it shows you are a foreigner....

we say:
and to the republic for which it stands....
not:
and to the democracy for which it stands.....

(I know this is serious shit Mohandas, but it was just so there, I had to do the troglodyte thing.

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 3:03:10 PM

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Also, the party is under legal obligations to carry out certain functions. The FEC and IRS would be interested in the moving of the convention dates, especially the day before said convention.

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 3:09:18 PM

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what happened when kennedy was assasinated they went ahead and played the nfl games on sunday
also will jerry not doe his mda telethon

yes it is a bad time with the hurricane but time will continue to go on

this is a damned if u do a damned if u dont

i am neither democrat republican or independent

i am an american

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 3:17:08 PM

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well, phil it shows you are a foreigner....

we say:
and to the republic for which it stands....
not:
and to the democracy for which it stands.....

(I know this is serious shit Mohandas, but it was just so there, I had to do the troglodyte thing.

Ron (no harm, no foul you who are not aware of dictionaries, or miniscule and majiscule differences thereof.)

.......good point. i've come across this notion in the past but i'd forgotten it.

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 3:26:26 PM

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Also, the party is under legal obligations to carry out certain functions. The FEC and IRS would be interested in the moving of the convention dates, especially the day before said convention.

I disagree...political conventions are strictly private affairs and are free to do or not do what they want. The FEC has no standing as these are not elections for office but only candidacies. The IRS is simply required to make sure they are...non-profit and only for tax purposes.

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 3:40:15 PM

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Actually, much of the public funding is based on dates of nominations and thus the convention. Therefore an interest in those dates being moved would be shown by both of those organizations. Contributions and other fundraising is also regulated based on where they fall in respect to the convention (nomination).

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 3:55:43 PM

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Also, the party is under legal obligations to carry out certain functions. The FEC and IRS would be interested in the moving of the convention dates, especially the day before said convention.

I disagree...political conventions are strictly private affairs and are free to do or not do what they want. The FEC has no standing as these are not elections for office but only candidacies. The IRS is simply required to make sure they are...non-profit and only for tax purposes.

There actually is serious business that has to be done by this convention. If this convention does not nominate McCain then the state parties cannot put him on the ballot for November.

I just saw a rather odd little piece of business that reflects the GOP way. The McCain campaign is using private planes to evacuate delegate and gop elected officials families to Minneapolis. Since those folks are obviously the "right sort" of people they deserve to be evacuated without dealing with the plebes on the roads or in evacuation centers. Nothing about flying in first respoders or medical personnel. Nothing about gathering donated supplies to fill the planes for the south bound flights.

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 6:50:32 PM

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Well, this answered the obvious question of post-poning the convention. From the news reports tonight it seems that a business meeting and legal procedures will happen rather than a normal convention. This seems expedient under the circumstances.

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 8:23:25 PM

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The GOP would be both commended and criticized no matter if they cut back on the convention or not. That said, I think they made the right choice.

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 8:43:57 PM

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Actually, much of the public funding is based on dates of nominations and thus the convention. Therefore an interest in those dates being moved would be shown by both of those organizations. Contributions and other fundraising is also regulated based on where they fall in respect to the convention (nomination).

It was my understanding that both candidates have forsaken public financing and contrary to what both sides 'promised.' Now neither side is willing to risk falling on the ethical sword that would prove to be.

While private contributions and fundraising is of FEC note, it is also my understanding that that is a seperate issue unaffected by the location or timing of the convention.

DomKen, it is also my understanding that either party having apparatus in all states, can have any nominee at almost anytime...placed on the ballot long before Nov.

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RE: McCain Suspends All But Necessary GOP Convention Pr... - 8/31/2008 9:59:33 PM

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McCain is taking public funding for the general election. The nomination needs to take place for placement on ballots in the states as well, each state has laws on when those must be submitted, while there is room for making changes, it is better safe than sorry. Not to mention that the rules of the RNC require the convention to be held during those specific dates, it would have to meet in order to change those dates, and a quorum would have to be present.

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