Termyn8or
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My take on it, Obama is not quite as bad as McCain. Things have been uttered on both sides, and some people seem to hang on to every sound bite, not realizing that what they say now before the election means nothing.
It never has, why should it now ? The people's memory is very short. Why should they worry about it ? Consider everything they say to be ad hoc for the purpose of getting your vote, that's all it is, and history proves it.
Again people get whipped up into a frenzy while the real issues go unaddressed. Let me query one of these talking heads for an hour, or better yet both of them. Neither one of them is acceptable, and we again choose between the lesser of two evils. Even celticL would have trouble rebutting that.
Really, they are not much more than figureheads. The powers that be are well known, but not the influence they wield. Nobody can live up to their campaign promises once they get the big chair. I am not talking about some clandestine uber-government that exerts control over our politicians, I am talking about overt control.
There are certain things the government cannot do, in part because we owe so much money. The dollar is propped up by foreign governments and it has gotten so bad that this is not going to change anytime soon.
The fact is, even if people wake up and realize that there are powerful unelected influences on our politicians, know what happens ? NOTHING. Knowing about it is not enough.
For example, in another thread I proposed creating "dirty zones" in the US and facilitating industry via tax abatements and relaxation of environmental restrictions. Offering these incentives to companies who have built plants or moved to China. I think it's a good idea, the only hitch is they build where we tell them to build, and their pollution is blown out over the ocean. While keeping a close eye on our internal environment, we pollute externally. Moral ? Not quite, but we are in trouble.
If elected however I would be very doubtful of my chances of making it happen. China now holds a significant amount of our paper, how do you think they would respond to us taking away part of their industry ? It matters not that we let them do it to us, business is business. They don't even have to start dumping our paper, all they have to do it to stop buying it.
When I was young we had a puppy. Not sure where it came from but it was underfed. Put down a bowl of food and a bowl of water. If left on his own, he would gobble down the food in record time, or the water. We had to shove him back and forth between the food bowl and the water bowl, otherwise he would get sick.
The US public reminds me of that puppy. The PTB put something in front of your face, and you waste time scrutinizing every word, even hanging even on what their peachers had said.
With all the bull that has been flying around, issues mean nothing because the promises made cannot be fulfilled. Some cannot because of the checks and balances installed in this system by the Framers of the Constitution, others cannot because we are at the mercy of the moneylenders, something the Framers warned against. Selling Tbills openly is wantonly creating moneylenders, and has made us debtors.
My guess is that even celticL will not be able to effectively rebut the mistakes made in the Bush (GW) administration, and they are grievous to say the least. Their economists say there is no recession, but let's take a quick look at that. Most of the money generated in this country is because of investments, speculation, or some sort of sucking at the public trough. With wars going on, sure some companies are doing well, but it is the taxpayer who foots the bill.
What we don't have is a manufacturing base that produces things Americans will buy en masse. That is just about all relegated to foreign countries. Anything war related might be doing well, but that is not quite a mass market. Not quite.
What do we do ? Become isolationists and nationalize the foreign debt and tell them to blow it out their ass ? Can't so that now that we import most of our food. We also have almost nothing in reserve. We have just about no oil in reserve, except for that which our refineries cannot refine quickly enough. This is only because the PTB won't let them build more refineries, it is a very lucrative business actually.
Certain people are correct, that refineries are actually making less money now, which is not apparent to the consumer because just to throw figures out there, if the price of gasoline in this country was solely dependant on oil prices and everything else remained constant, it would be about $8 a gallon now. One may wonder what they did with all the money they made in the past.
This is so much more complex than what people are led to believe, and REAL change is nowhere in sight. It simply can't happen.
Obama, while the lesser of two evils wants to give everybody a thousand dollars. This doesn't mean a thing. If he gets it done by February 18th the money will probably mostly go to purchase new Chinese high-definition TVs. You see, if we don't build anything, no economic stimulus will work. Really, Obama lost me with that one, it does about as much as the three or six hundred bucks the Bushies doled out. It means nothing. I see it as a more offhand way of sending the money out of the country, something at which the politicians seem to have become very adept.
Then there is McCain, who thinks those making five million dollars a year are middle class. Who CHOSE to stay in the POW camp, and with an Admiral Daddy, he obviously did not get the same treatment as the grunts on the ground, those who REALLY risked their lives. He is a pushbutton hero.
Any of these guys, if they couldn't be on a bomber, they didn't go. Actually Kerry did, but his story has had more holes blown in it than a collander has.
Neither of them has the slightest understanding of what their duties really are. As I say, Obama is, at this point, the lesser of two evils IMO.
There are only two things that are scary about that big chair. One is being Commander In Chief of the armed forces. The other is the power of Executive Order.
Even those powers are limited by the real PTB. If someone loans you money, and the debt is practically payable on demand, and they ask a favor what do you do ?
Think about that.
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