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Focus50 -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/3/2008 10:53:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: silkenfire

However, I'm just trying to figure out what really is sensible. What most people think so I can approach it better in my relationship. Sorry for it being an odd question and not being specific enough...  

What's "sensible" is that everyone is different and what "most people think" probably won't have a lot of meaning for your specific intimate relationships.
 
Me, I've never gotten a lot out of "vanilla" oral sex but oral *service*, specifically as an act of domination, is a whole other animal...!  Since this is about ME doing her, she doesn't actually require alleged oral "skills" beyond doing as she's told.
 
I think the skill that needs the most polish for you is the art of communicating with your partners.  You may be better served asking permission to talk as equal, mature adults.  It's something I like to do a lot of and it's merely a matter of setting different headspace between woman and property.  If you can't even have that with your dom, I'd suggest moving on - it ain't gonna last anyway.
 
Focus.




ElectraGlide -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/3/2008 11:02:41 PM)

It depends if you have a agreed upon protocol ahead of time on how and when. Some slaves may find it tacky. Some may not.




Lordandmaster -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/4/2008 12:03:12 AM)

As most people have said...why can't we have both?




MissIsis -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/4/2008 12:09:10 AM)

Both, but I am not one that likes to hear begging.  Nothing worse than listening to a submissive beg for sex, even if they do want to give it.   I would think asking once & accepting a yes or no from me should be sufficient.  Of course, if I want it, I would expect no hesitation.  




LarabysLair -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/4/2008 2:28:44 AM)

I love to hear my girl beg to serve me sexually. Why would I ever want to silence her. :-)

L L
owner of the Lair
(edited to fix the missing r)




Dnomyar -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/4/2008 4:29:50 AM)

LarabysLair why would you want to silence a woman??? Your kidding right?




skeletoncrew -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/4/2008 11:03:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

As most people have said...why can't we have both?


there is a mental/emotional/communication block for the OP that makes it hard or difficult to iniate from what i got out of it...

personally, i like the two "extremes", sometimes i want my sub to just do what she is told...she likes to give oral, so "suck my cock" is usually enough to get things going and i can decide from there if she is going to mouth fuck me or i will skull fuck her or whatever combination of the two that happens....

but, sometimes it is nice to be a little less active and directing things and have her iniate and even "take control" a little bit...i'm even working on a scene from a thread i saw once(can't remember if it was here or somewhere else) to "test" her ability to please where i will be sensory deprived(eyes, ears, and mouth) and see how well she can please entirely by touch without rigid guidance...what happens if i end up like the guy in Johnny Get Your Gun(or the Metallica One video) and i can't hear, see, or speak???

but, in the end for you and your situation/relationship it is like everybody else has said, communicate as much and as clearly as you can and things should work out...




LaTigresse -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/4/2008 11:42:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

LarabysLair why would you want to silence a woman??? Your kidding right?


duct tape..........gotta love that stuff




CoffinDancer -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/15/2008 7:13:49 PM)

Both. I agree, her begging for oral is nice. 




badlilthang -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/15/2008 10:58:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

quote:

ORIGINAL: silkenfire

One of the major dilemmas that I see is:
Would you rather your sub asked you if they may go down on you, because it shows their desire in pleasing you

or

Would you rather being able to order your sub around to do it whenever you wished to receive?

Do you think there is a downside to either (and I do say "sub" not "slave" as I realize that a slave may hve different connotations)  

Looks like I'm a little different to most here....
 
The way I rationalise things, keeping my dick "happy" is one of my girl's main responsibilities so I first teach her the five instances or circumstances when she's NOT permitted to touch with her hands.  Once she knows them, she alone may go where I won't allow *anyone* else....


Focus.

**ok - i'll bite ( no pun intende..well..almost none....)...what are those 5 five instances or circumstances?**




SailingBum -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/16/2008 1:27:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: silkenfire

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This is sort of where I was trying to go with the post. I'm coming out of relationships where my skills were not appreciated, orally. And yet oral fills a very specific niche to me, and is something that I have worked very hard to perfect (always is however an ongoing learning experience).

To be honest, I'm so scared of rejection that for the most part I have dated only those that pursued or showed interest in me. Too scared of rejection to even show interest. So, too scared of rejection to ask for things in the relationship most of the time and that's also a large part of my psyche and something that no one else can really advise on... so that might be part of what started this.

However, I'm just trying to figure out what really is sensible. What most people think so I can approach it better in my relationship. Sorry for it being an odd question and not being specific enough...  






Well maybe you suck at giving blow jobs???  course I maintain there is no such thing as a bad blow job ...some are just better than others.

BadOne




SailingBum -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/16/2008 1:29:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

LarabysLair why would you want to silence a woman??? Your kidding right?



What he said!!

BadOne




IronBear -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/16/2008 2:33:40 AM)

Really you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. IKrrespective weather the submissive is a sub or slave, it largely depends on the individual dynamic. Personally, both work for me as long as the slave asks first and doesn't take it foir granted that my meat is available for taking when ever they wish.




VivaciousSub -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/16/2008 2:25:41 PM)

Sir and I have it both ways...He orders me to give him oral sex at times, but more often than not, I ask if I may please Him with it. It's one of my favorite activities in the world and we both love my enthusiasm. 




Cuffkinks -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/16/2008 2:40:52 PM)

I'm with the majority here...Both. My little girl may ask if I desire My cock serviced. She may ask if I wish to use My slut. She may even beg for the privilege of serving Me. (Begging is hot.) Or, I will decide I want My cock serviced, grab her and use her mouth as I see fit, whether she wants to or not. She is not however, allowed to just take it upon herself to suck My cock. She is not even permitted to touch My cock with out permission.




SirKaton -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/16/2008 2:57:51 PM)

Why "either/or" when it can be "both/and"? Each option has its place and time and depend on my mood and what it is I might want to accomplish with my subs.




tazzygirl -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/16/2008 3:14:35 PM)

ah, new relationships... can be the pits!!

~laughs~

seriously, you are just getting to know one another, just learning what trips your partners triggers.

someone mentioned an email about how it makes you feel to be rejected... and i believe thats a great idea.  it allows you both time to think about what is being said, how it is being said, and how it makes that person feel once its read.  new relationships arent always the best at communication

a few other suggestions... text messages while apart... they can help "set the scene".. teasing, flirting that way can really get the juices going for when you are both home

another suggestion... ask... just once... then, if you are told no, simply say... i understand, will you let me know when you are in the mood?  toss in something extremely complimentary like... because i adore how you taste and i miss tasting you... then let it drop

Men arent that much different than women... moody at times, as we are... they dont always feel sexual.. stress at work and at home can sap the desire from them as well as it does from us

so, if he says no occassionally, try not to take it too personally, let him know the interest is definitely there, then allow him to be the dominant and step forward for when he wants it

and, yes, that works for submissives as well as slaves




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/16/2008 3:16:44 PM)

Im surprised this even came back up. It was a very very new relationship issue which I believe they are both well past.

New relationships are so difficult sometimes, though, arent they?




NihilusZero -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/16/2008 4:21:48 PM)

Except in circumstances where something is seriously wrong, I do not discourage displays of deep affection, particularly sexually. I expect/prefer a sub to feel aroused and excited by being around me or thinking about things...so I leave the freedom to 'surprise' me freely available.

If I'm feeling a tad 'evil' at a certain moment, I may hold them off just long enough to get them to beg and whimper...and if something is actually wrong (physical pain, internal stress) I'd gently communicate that, so as not to leave a feeling of the attempt having been unwelcome.




Asherdelampyr -> RE: Masters Receiving Oral - question (9/16/2008 7:58:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: silkenfire

One of the major dilemmas that I see is:
Would you rather your sub asked you if they may go down on you, because it shows their desire in pleasing you

or

Would you rather being able to order your sub around to do it whenever you wished to receive?

Do you think there is a downside to either (and I do say "sub" not "slave" as I realize that a slave may hve different connotations)  

-silk


All of the above?
Plus random, unasked for is good to, ya know, when im just sittin around the house and she sees that I look stressed...
did I mention that I have the best girl ever? cause thats important to note here :D:D:D




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