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kiwisub12 -> RE: Grace and Dignity in Submission (9/5/2008 6:05:50 PM)

lMy Sir isn't into grace and dignity - but having said that, he expects me to comport myself in such a manner to bring acculades to him.  Since , in the lifestyle, i am kept naked, i try to act like a lady. I know that sounds weird, but i try to act as if i am fully clothed, so that people aren't uncomfortable in my presence due to my uncomfortableness.

I'm not the most dignified person in the world, so at times my Sir has to rein me in, but i do endevour not to be crass.

I try to accept all things expected of me , thereby lending dignity and grace (not physical!!!) to things i do.



DesFIP -> RE: Grace and Dignity in Submission (9/5/2008 6:49:57 PM)

Anxiety is not something that I can experience with grace. It's a physiological response, faster breathing, eyes darting back and forth expecting a saber toothed tiger to attack, etc. I can't control my anxiety disorder, it's a result of brain chemistry problems. If I could control it, I wouldn't suffer from it.

Personally I'd feel as though I was being set up if he said this. He might just as easily tell me I wasn't to ever feel thirst after being in the sun on a hot day without water. Isn't going to happen.



charlotteS -> RE: Grace and Dignity in Submission (9/5/2008 10:19:46 PM)

That song sort of acted as my theme song a year ago as I was finally starting to explore my submission fully in real life.  I was realizing that I could be submissive and strong at the same time.  Finding that the further I went in my submission to someone specific the more whole and confident I felt in the rest of my life.  And I was discovering that all the goals I always strove for, physical grace and beauty as well as grace and dignity in my interactions with others and humility in my relationships were all things I could strengthen through exploring submission. 

Now that I'm in a full time relationship I find myself struggling with these things more as real life problems rear their ugly heads.  But after reading your post I put that song on again and felt immediately comforted.  Master always tells me that he cares about how I feel but that these feelings aren't an excuse to behave rudely to him.  I try to carry myself with grace even when upset and even though I am still bad at it I enjoy carrying that goal with me.  It is something I admire in others and would like to be able to exemplify in myself. 

So yes, I believe grace and dignity play a huge role in submission.  I believe that one of the most beautiful things a person can do is to carry themselves well even in a tough situation.  Of course different people will be striving for different goals but the woman I admire and strive to be and that Master seems to desire as well is someone who stands out for her grace, dignity, humility and beauty.  I see this employed every day in our relationship in how he makes me always dress nicely to go out, walk gracefully, behave respectfully towards others etc. 

Hope that helps.  Warm wishes,

charlotte

PS.  How'd you come up with your name? :P



dove967 -> RE: Grace and Dignity in Submission (9/6/2008 2:09:39 AM)

Whenever I think of service with grace and dignity, I can't help but reflect on the tradition of the Japanese Geisha(ms?).  I try to learn and model my submission "style" from them.  To take pride and care in not just my outer appearance-although I do work to be pleasing to the eye of both my Daddy and my Dom-but to also make sure I am always growing and learning on the inside as well.  To accept both my strengths and weaknesses and present as honest and sincere picture of myself  to both Doms and fellow submissives in all humility yet unashamed.  If  one keeps a quiet inner confidence in the value of thier own self worth and the service they have to offer, then Grace and Dignity just naturally shine through. Oh, you can try to ACT graceful and dignified, but, then those will be the first things to falter when the pressure is on. I try to focus on keeping an open mind and a teachable heart,  then Grace and Dignity will surface as a natural result no matter what the circumstances.  Just my 2 cents.

dove



softness -> RE: Grace and Dignity in Submission (9/6/2008 2:26:36 AM)

Grace and dignity are (for me) two defining factors of attractive feminity. Overtly feminine women are attractive in an overt way, but women who behave with grace and dignity are always attractive, even in situations where they are struggling and in difficulty. A woman who can maintain her poise in all situatutions, can really be called a lady. Doesn't matter who she is, how she is dressed, or what is happening.

Sometimes in play its ... fullfilling ... to be stripped of my dignity, but I wouldn't want or look for someone or a relationship where that was a factor in all parts of my life.







OttersSwim -> RE: Grace and Dignity in Submission (9/6/2008 10:01:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: charlotteS
PS.  How'd you come up with your name? :P


Hello Charlotte, thanks for your reply.  :)  That song is just really great as it about a person who is completely integrated and their spirit shines through and everyone around them feels it.  I think that everyone wants to be so, and for me it is a song that, like you said, represents something that I want to bring forth in submission.  I am glad that you listened to it again and I hope your current life issues diminish when you hear it and you feel stronger to deal with them and still be who you are/have become.  :)

I have always loved Otters.  Otter was my wife's pet name for me for a long time.  Otters are a bit awkward on land...but you put them into the water and they are totally immersed in their element.  They embody beauty and grace and playfulness.  In this new path, I want to be like the otter in the water, so I chose that name.



OttersSwim -> RE: Grace and Dignity in Submission (9/6/2008 10:18:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: dove967
...and present as honest and sincere picture of myself  to both Doms and fellow submissives in all humility yet unashamed.
dove


YES!  You have captured it beautifully.  :)



dove967 -> RE: Grace and Dignity in Submission (9/6/2008 1:05:12 PM)

Thankyou, OttersSwim.....amidst all my babble,  there jewels of common sense here and there. 


dove



VivaciousSub -> RE: Grace and Dignity in Submission (9/7/2008 7:48:57 PM)

They used to have a grade for this in school called "Comportment"!

Ah, I miss the good old days.

A true lady can be strong AND submissive.



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