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suhlut -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 7:58:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash


One thing I forgot to mention about the Steaks.....NO STEAK SAUCE allowed at my house. Someone even mentions something about putting a bunch of coverup on a steak I grilled and they will instantly see how fast I can become sadistic. (I have actually threatened dismemberment...lol)


do  sauted mushrooms and onions..count as part of the forbidden "coverup"?




kiwisub12 -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 8:25:18 AM)

oh no - mushrooms and onions are an enhancement - not a cover up.  Hope this helps.[:)]




DesFIP -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 8:31:06 AM)

But twice baked potatoes are far superior to baked with sour cream and chives. You want to roast garlic ahead of time, then hollow out the baked potatoes, mix with butter until it turns yellow, then sour cream until it turns white again, add the roast garlic, sea salt and white pepper. Finely minced diced leeks or portabellas are suitable additions also. Then restuff the shells and reheat as needed.

Ribeye please. Rare, warm in the center. And grilled zucchini or asparagus as the perfect side.




SilverMark -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 8:35:17 AM)

Damn, I get so hungry reading this thread!




soul2share -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 9:03:41 AM)

Well, I like steaks and other beef too....but it HAS to be well done or medium well....any pink in the sucker, it's going to go back to the kitchen!!!!  Still mooing beef is gross!  And all of my beef is dipped in ketchup/horseradish sauce.......'bout made my Mom cry one new years day...she had a $70 prime rib, and I slathered it with ketchup......but it was good...I got an end.....and nuked the second piece to finish cooking it!

Damn......put me on the list with all the hungry folks now!!!!




Thadius -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 9:23:00 AM)

I am sitting here enjoying some well prepared pork fat and loving it.  Sizzling piggies and cows are tasty.

Glad to see folks are enjoying this week's fat thread.  By the way, I am all for combining pork and beef in a meal.  Who could argue against a great filet wrapped in bacon, then smothered in onions and goodness?

Blasphemers, enjoy the flesh as it is meant to be enjoyed fry, broil, grill some meat today.  Take control of those instincts, and savor the flavor.  If you really need it, yes, you can have some rabbit food as a side.




Level -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 9:33:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: soul2share

Well, I like steaks and other beef too....but it HAS to be well done or medium well....any pink in the sucker, it's going to go back to the kitchen!!!!  Still mooing beef is gross! 


I used to feel the same way, until one time at lunch, I was served a medium rare steak.... we were already running late, so I decided to give it a shot.
 
Oh my...... [X(]....... how wonderful......




Aynne88 -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 9:43:24 AM)

 
Abolutely. I adore tartare, and carpaccio, sushi and oysters and raw eggs in my ceasar. I refuse to be a slave to the germophobes.  Americans are so overly homogenized, it is a wonder we have an immune system left. Wussies.[;)]

Oh, and the steak is rare, blood rare, porterhouse, with a sea salt and horseradish crust, grilled. YUM[:)]     


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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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Please don't tell your local neighborhood meat cutter, or service counter employee that is what you intend to do with your meat.  It makes some of us cringe, especially, when we know there really aren't great testing techniques to make sure you are getting a product free of bacteria & other unhealthy micro-organisms, that can only be killed when the meat reaches a certain temperature.  Once you grind that great cut of meat for Steak Tartar, if there was any bacteria anywhere that meat touches, it gets mixed in there.  Unless, you are working in your kitchen to prepare this, no matter how careful & clean a meat department is, you cannot be sure of the conditions your meat will be handled in.  You can't see bacteria. 

Also, keep in mind that the special piece of meat you pick out to have ground special, will get lost in most commercial grinders.  The heads hold up to 2lbs of meat.  What that means is that you will lose that much meat inside the grinder.  One trick meat personnel use is to take another piece of meat to push it through.  The only problem is that some of that other piece of meat will get mixed in with the piece you picked out. 

Most meat cutters won't even bother to tell you this stuff.  People just don't believe them when they try to be honest.  After awhile, they give up trying to tell people things & just do as they are asked.   


Life has it's risks, and I do tell the butcher what I'm doing if I make steak tartare.  I don't eat it that often, it's a rare pleasure.  I also enjoy raw oysters on occassion, which have their own risks. 




LaTigresse -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 9:43:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: soul2share

Well, I like steaks and other beef too....but it HAS to be well done or medium well....any pink in the sucker, it's going to go back to the kitchen!!!!  Still mooing beef is gross!  And all of my beef is dipped in ketchup/horseradish sauce.......'bout made my Mom cry one new years day...she had a $70 prime rib, and I slathered it with ketchup......but it was good...I got an end.....and nuked the second piece to finish cooking it!

Damn......put me on the list with all the hungry folks now!!!!


Ohhhhhhhh MYYYYYYYYYY GAWD!! This is just wrong on so many levels! Well done and KETCHUP??!!??!!?? [:o] [:@] [:(]

I absolutely refuse to allow any steak sauce or ketchup on a steak I grill, nor will I cook it beyond medium. If they don't like it, they can eat something else. I refuse to ruin a steak.




Aynne88 -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 9:45:02 AM)

 
Ack! If I was your mom you would have gotten cheerios instead, the horror![8D] Microwaved prime rib?

quote:

ORIGINAL: soul2share

Well, I like steaks and other beef too....but it HAS to be well done or medium well....any pink in the sucker, it's going to go back to the kitchen!!!!  Still mooing beef is gross!  And all of my beef is dipped in ketchup/horseradish sauce.......'bout made my Mom cry one new years day...she had a $70 prime rib, and I slathered it with ketchup......but it was good...I got an end.....and nuked the second piece to finish cooking it!

Damn......put me on the list with all the hungry folks now!!!!




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 9:55:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

I love beef.  What I don't understand is this trend about advertising Black Angus beef.  I don't know where this idea came from that cheaper grades of beef from a certain breed of cow were better.  It's the marbling and the cut of a steak that makes it good or not.  The breed of the cow matters very little. 

I do love a good T-Bone, a sirloin, or a ribeye cooked rare.  I love steak tartare, but it's rare (no pun intended) to find a restaurant that will serve it.  I love hamburger steak with french fries smothered in brown gravy.  One of my favorite things in the world is a good corned beef briscuit. 


I concur -- it is both a crime and a shame to overcook good meat.. As far as Steak Tartare, if there is a Whole Foods near you, go to the butcher shop/meat section, choose a sirloin steak, and tell them you would like to have it ground for Steak Tartare or Cannibal Sandwiches (or any raw-meat preparation). They will strip the grinder, bleach it, wash it, bleach it again, rinse it with fresh, running water, and -then- grind your meat. That and Central Market (same process in their butcher shop) are the only commercial sources I'll use for raw-food meat preparation. Make sure you bring an ice chest to keep the meat well below 39 degrees Fahrenheit until you get it home to prepare it.

Alternatively, I purchase meat pre-ground to order from a local farmer who grass-feeds his beef from birth to table, and who runs a AA-grade slaughter facility specifically for the meat, poultry, and game that he sells (all local meat, from beef and goat to wild boar). I pick it up within 30 minutes of his grinding it for me, and prepare it that same afternoon. Scrumptious! If you can find a local farmer who raises his own herd-cattle birth to slaughter and completely grass-fed, you'll find that there is a statistically significant lower risk for e. coli contamination (cattle fed on their natural 100% grass diet do not develop the intestinal pH issues that promote overgrowth of e. coli.)

I prefer to grind at home, but I don't always have the time, or the capacity to grind as much as I need (especially for raw-meat dinner parties), and these two alternatives have served me well over the years.

Calla Firestorm





ScooterTrash -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 10:14:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: soul2share

Well, I like steaks and other beef too....but it HAS to be well done or medium well....any pink in the sucker, it's going to go back to the kitchen!!!!  Still mooing beef is gross!  And all of my beef is dipped in ketchup/horseradish sauce.......'bout made my Mom cry one new years day...she had a $70 prime rib, and I slathered it with ketchup......but it was good...I got an end.....and nuked the second piece to finish cooking it!

Damn......put me on the list with all the hungry folks now!!!!


Ohhhhhhhh MYYYYYYYYYY GAWD!! This is just wrong on so many levels! Well done and KETCHUP??!!??!!?? [:o] [:@] [:(]

I absolutely refuse to allow any steak sauce or ketchup on a steak I grill, nor will I cook it beyond medium. If they don't like it, they can eat something else. I refuse to ruin a steak.
I rest my case!!!




popeye1250 -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 10:16:51 AM)

"Your Mamma's so fat the back of her neck looks like a package of hot dogs!"




slvemike4u -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 10:22:49 AM)

Place me squarley on the side of those who have issues with over-cooking meat,if you want shoe leather look in your closet.Don't even talk to me about ketchup on steak...I have a niece I love dearly but there are times....after marinating and grilling to perfection to watch porterhous or rib-eye dipped in Heinz Ketchup is enough to make a meat lover livid.....p.s.prime rib in a mcro-wave is as good an argument for the death penalty as this poster has heard..




hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 10:49:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88


Abolutely. I adore tartare, and carpaccio, sushi and oysters and raw eggs in my ceasar. I refuse to be a slave to the germophobes.  Americans are so overly homogenized, it is a wonder we have an immune system left. Wussies.[;)]

Oh, and the steak is rare, blood rare, porterhouse, with a sea salt and horseradish crust, grilled. YUM[:)]     



Aynne, we may not agree very often on other things, but this time we're 100% in accord!  I still enjoy freaking out the various 'good ole boys' around here who blanch about Sushi and Soshimi and say "yer eattin BAIT???"  Raw Oysters? You betcha!

Scooter - can I sneak in a bottle of A1 just for the beating?  [8D]  (Com'on - it's not like I'd actually Use it - that would be blasphemy!)

Calla - fortunately for me, all of the meat producers with the local coop are birth to table grass feeders. Soooooo superior in flavor and quality to anything I can get at the store that what the grocery sells should be considered criminal to eat. 

Got that whole leg of Goat thawing currently - gonna roast it later for myself and a couple of friends - mint, rosemary, and greek oregano, with a touch of sea salt and freshly cracked black pepper.  But lunch was grilled Buffalo Burgers with horseradish aoli and sliced avocado.  (Think I may send the recipe in for next year's Build a Better Burger food network challenge for the Alternative Burger catagory... )




Jeffff -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 11:02:01 AM)

I want marbleing....and I want it WELL DONE!... and if the waiter sneers. I remind him that his tip is dependent
on hos ability to deliver my burned steak with a smile.

I want my steak identified by it's dental records..:)

Jeff




LaTigresse -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 11:33:17 AM)

Oh Ward, I've lost all respect for you.




Jeffff -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 11:37:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Oh Ward, I've lost all respect for you.


It's just a steak.. it's not a metaphor for life.....:)

Bobby Flay





Aynne88 -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 11:38:54 AM)

I think Rhi if we just hang out and eat and drink together and do *not* discuss politics we would have a blast!

So....what time is goat?[:D] 


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ORIGINAL: hizgeorgiapeach

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aynne88


Abolutely. I adore tartare, and carpaccio, sushi and oysters and raw eggs in my ceasar. I refuse to be a slave to the germophobes.  Americans are so overly homogenized, it is a wonder we have an immune system left. Wussies.[;)]

Oh, and the steak is rare, blood rare, porterhouse, with a sea salt and horseradish crust, grilled. YUM[:)]     



Aynne, we may not agree very often on other things, but this time we're 100% in accord!  I still enjoy freaking out the various 'good ole boys' around here who blanch about Sushi and Soshimi and say "yer eattin BAIT???"  Raw Oysters? You betcha!

Scooter - can I sneak in a bottle of A1 just for the beating?  [8D]  (Com'on - it's not like I'd actually Use it - that would be blasphemy!)

Calla - fortunately for me, all of the meat producers with the local coop are birth to table grass feeders. Soooooo superior in flavor and quality to anything I can get at the store that what the grocery sells should be considered criminal to eat. 

Got that whole leg of Goat thawing currently - gonna roast it later for myself and a couple of friends - mint, rosemary, and greek oregano, with a touch of sea salt and freshly cracked black pepper.  But lunch was grilled Buffalo Burgers with horseradish aoli and sliced avocado.  (Think I may send the recipe in for next year's Build a Better Burger food network challenge for the Alternative Burger catagory... )





sirsholly -> RE: Obligatory fat thread of the week... (9/6/2008 11:43:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I want marbleing....and I want it WELL DONE!... and if the waiter sneers. I remind him that his tip is dependent
on hos ability to deliver my burned steak with a smile.

I want my steak identified by it's dental records..:)

Jeff


that's generally the way they turn out when i am doing the cooking.....[8|]




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