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Littlepita -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 6:15:35 AM)

Love means you accept the person for who and what they are. Yes I would stay and I would not cheat. I would expect him to give to me what he could in way of complete love and attention and lots of fun toys. There are plenty of things to do sexually then penile penetration and I would want all I could get of what he could do.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 6:44:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Littlepita
Love means you accept the person for who and what they are.

Yes it does.

But it doesn't mean you choose to in a RELATIONSHIP with the person as they are.

I can love an alcoholic. But I won't be in a relationship with them.




TwinFlame -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 8:17:11 AM)

I hope you´ll succeed.




RosaB -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 9:41:11 AM)

Woooooo Nelly, When did love come into the equation, we're talking just starting out. lets take it one step at a time. The quy asked if we'd just started getting that comfy feeling and only if we would consider taking it further and seeing a future with the person. Yes, I would take him as he is, but he'd have to take me as I am as well. I'm not talking about cheating on the guy, when he reveals his info to me, I'd reveal my info to to him as well and he'd have to take me as the horny toad that needs to have a stiff one on occassion.

If the penis isn't important than in my rather warped opinion , I might as well just get all the love and kindness I need from a female companion. Becasue for me, When I think about it, if it weren't for the penis, who could most likely love you more like you need to be loved than another woman? Try to remeber, this is coming from a woman that has a penis fetish. Also remember in real everyday life most women have to fight tooth and nail to get men to pay them the attention they desire.

And no I'm not a man hater. I wouldn't want to occupy this earth without them, there are so many other wonderful things I love about men besides their members. Like the fact that they pick up the check. Just kidding, I can hear the spears, knives, armor, nails and such coming out already. This is what happens when you eat too much turkey.




Naturalchatter -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 10:08:22 AM)

THANK YOU ! (and please write more...).

I think two persons asked about how an impotent man can have chidren. I my case there is some erection which would allow to introduce sperms. However, this erection cannot be sustained long enough to continue the intercourse.
Other methods to become children have been mentioned in this discussion too, e.g. using different laboratory technics. Having children would not be a problem in my case. And I do want to have some with the right person. And I know she want to have two.

And: no, I do not like to be humiliated (that is about question 4).

Some asked about how long the relationship lasts: I did not start it yet. We just see each other very often at work and worked together some time. I have just never been with someone on the same waves: she is so weak, trusting and beautiful that I am just afraid to start it. I am sure she is a great SUB, and, as I am DOM, it would match I hope. I just want to see what you are thinking about it before I start something that could potentially ruin her or my life by revealing my "secret".
It would be hard for me to stay alone for the rest of my life (I am 32 now) so especially now, in winter, I do feel I need her.
[:)]






LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 10:22:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Naturalchatter
she is so weak, trusting and beautiful that I am just afraid to start it.

Weak???

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I am sure she is a great SUB, and, as I am DOM, it would match I hope.

Keep your presumptions in check before anything else. Specially as this seems to be a work focused relationship. Those are troubled waters all on their own.

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I just want to see what you are thinking about it before I start something that could potentially ruin her or my life by revealing my "secret".
It would be hard for me to stay alone for the rest of my life (I am 32 now) so especially now, in winter, I do feel I need her.

And needing someone due to being lonely is ALWAYS the best way to choose a mother and life partner.

Spare the poor weak girl and find your local kink community.




IrishMist -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 11:19:10 AM)

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If a man you feel good with told you something like that:

1. how would you react?
2. would you stay with him?
3. would you make sex/intercourse with other guys, still living with him (cheating...)?
4. would you tell other people who know you both so that they may laugh at him?


With sympathy first. Then, I would sit down with him and talk about it. Go over all the options, even the ones that he has stated he would not consider.

If I loved him, yes, I would stay. Sex is the not only criteria for a realationship, at least not with me anyway.

No, not unless he had stated before hand that this is what HE wanted.

Of course not, as already stated, we are well past the 3rd grade :) Nor would I use it against him.




slavejali -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 11:42:47 AM)

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I got thrown in the deep end of dealing with a diabetic who had 5 hypos in 4 days one of which necessitated calling an ambulance.


i can really relate to that, my late husband had long term type 1 diabetes....and to adjust this statement to the topic....one of the effects of long term diabetes is erectile dysfuncton.

When we first came together, we did so as friends and i took it upon myself to look after him, he had a lot of health issues. in the four years we were together i dont think i ever had a good nights sleep, i would always be in a half awake state making sure he was still breathing or not starting to sweat in his sleep (which is a sign of a sugar low which can be very dangerous and require a hospital trip or a glucose injection). i knew his problems from the start, including his non-ability to have sex, this was never an issue for me, i recall a few times though as our relationship became closer than friends that he expressed a deep frustration the he could never make love to me.

i think those four years of no sex did me some good actually. i learned about love without expecting anything physical in return...we had a beautiful love and a relationship that was so solid and amazing.

im telling you this as i pick up from your questions that you wonder if any woman could love you totally and completely without having to go outside of the relationship. There are women that can, i did.

i think the only problem that could occur is if you withheld your sexual problems from your partner from the start. I cant think of a worse scenario than expecting a certain kind of relationship, expecting a wild sex life or whatever and then that never coming to fruition. Its deceptive and all those insecurities you expressed could play out..ie the woman going outside the relationship, the woman talking to other people about the problems within the partnership due purely to her expectations not being met because the relationship wasnt how you initially presented it, and yes she could even leave you.

There is a person for everyone, as long as you are honest from the start, you will find the right woman for you.





plantlady64 -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 12:52:25 PM)

Hello There,
I'd ask you to permit me to have an open relationship.
Maybe you could even decide who, when and how I get laid elsewhere.

I am allowed full contact during my 1st year in BDSM. I am free to sleep with any one I choose till 2/24/06. Beyond that only if Master selects someone for me will I be able to play with others. Master knows he owns my heart and He knows the others are just friends.
I think if you could get past your jealousy of others being with her your problem wouldn't be a big deal for me. If you required her to be faithful I don't know if I was her if I could accept.
Isncerely,
sub suzanne




Mylee -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 12:56:44 PM)

not to pick on you here and i'm sure some will think i am...but you say she is weak? What makes you think she is weak? Submissive does not equal weakness, and no i'm not saying you said that, i feel for you and your situation...but i'm not she SHE would like to be labled as weak...anway, best wishes to you




KatyLied -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 1:15:07 PM)

I also do not like the usage of "weak" when talking about a sub. It takes strength to submit. You can't do it if you are a weak person. Perhaps if you can explain why she is "weak" or why you perceive her as being "weak" and do you think this is a positive trait?




littleone35 -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 1:49:50 PM)

If i truely loved him it would not Matter to me i would not leave him just because he could not have an erection. I would be surprised but it would not make a difference to me. Sex is not the be all and end all of a relationship. I would only have intercourse with other guys if we discussed it and he was ok with it i mean REALLY OK with it. I would never tell other people and laugh about it. If you love somebody you don't laugh at them with them but not AT them.

littleone




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 1:57:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littleone35

If i truely loved him it would not Matter to me i would not leave him just because he could not have an erection. I would be surprised but it would not make a difference to me. Sex is not the be all and end all of a relationship. I would only have intercourse with other guys if we discussed it and he was ok with it i mean REALLY OK with it. I would never tell other people and laugh about it. If you love somebody you don't laugh at them with them but not AT them.

littleone


It's not about love. Just because a persons situation isn't what works for you doesn't mean they don't love you enough.

Love doesn't, and shouldn't, conquer all.

It doesn't matter how much I love someone, I'm not going to be monogamous. If someone finds that having actual sex with an actual erect penis on a regular basis is part of what they need, I say more power to them and be honest about it.




nenakajira -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 2:00:58 PM)

Wow, I must be the only selfish woman on the boards *chuckles*

No, there is absolutely no way I would stay with him. While sex is not the most important thing in a relationship to me.. it's in the top five. And while there are many other ways to find pleasure... I am definitely a fan of intercourse. I would not stay with a man who could not achieve an erection.
Then again, I tend to sleep with men on the first date so I'm sure this would have come up (no pun intended) well before I was overly emotionally attached to him.

-nena{R}




Naturalchatter -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 2:06:28 PM)

Thank you for your answers.

here is my attempt to address some of the issues you brought to light:

1. By describing her as “weak” I mean she just smiled and felt happy every time I did something for her and looked so great knowing that she just does not have to do some hard things at the job. She is a real astrological “cancer”, and I can almost touch all the deep feelings which life evokes in her. She reacts IMPULSIVE to things I would even not think about or not even noticed at all, her world is full of deep FEELINGS anywhere I can look. She is 33, speaks little but has a terrible sharp sense in observing things, on the other hand often not knowing how to use it to her advantage. Being 33 and beautiful she could have the richest guys with Porsche but she lives with 3 friends in a relatively small flat and does not “date for money” (well, I do not plan to buy a Porsche). Her world is so childish…, yet so extremely fascinating. Her IMPULSIVENESS makes her weak. And I like it soooo MUCH!

2. Some of you are writing about a relationship without sex. Please consider, most humans have TONGUE, fingers, CLITORIS, “GLANS penis”, nipples, TOYS and a LOT OF IMAGINATION. Having so plenty of things and a possibility to have children, but no stiff penis, should a man be left WITHOUT HOPE? Or maybe……




Mylee -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 2:29:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Naturalchatter

Thank you for your answers.

here is my attempt to address some of the issues you brought to light:

1. By describing her as “weak” I mean she just smiled and felt happy every time I did something for her and looked so great knowing that she just does not have to do some hard things at the job. She is a real astrological “cancer”, and I can almost touch all the deep feelings which life evokes in her. She reacts IMPULSIVE to things I would even not think about or not even noticed at all, her world is full of deep FEELINGS anywhere I can look. She is 33, speaks little but has a terrible sharp sense in observing things, on the other hand often not knowing how to use it to her advantage. Being 33 and beautiful she could have the richest guys with Porsche but she lives with 3 friends in a relatively small flat and does not “date for money” (well, I do not plan to buy a Porsche). Her world is so childish…, yet so extremely fascinating. Her IMPULSIVENESS makes her weak. And I like it soooo MUCH!





Ug, soo much to say here to this....but i will hold my tongue...for now, i've got to think about what you've just said here




Sensualips -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 3:12:37 PM)

Impulsiveness and deep feelings equal weakness? Being happy because you did something for her makes her weak? What types of "hard" things does she is exempt from that makes her happy?

Your definition of weakness is peculiar to me.

I am not sure being inately trusting is a general submissive trait either though. Perhaps innocent or childlike goes hand in hand with trusting?

If you feel you "need" her because you are lonely and it is winter...well, I slow it down and maybe ask her on a date first. A simple date rarely ruins anyone's life. I think yu are skipping ahead a bit.




RiotGirl -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 3:41:22 PM)

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1. With some shock at first, then with curiosity, some degree of sympathy and acceptance of the situation.
2 .Yes. why would I not?
3. No...not into cheating.
4. Please! I'm not in the 3rd grade anymore...Your medical condition is not a laughing matter.


ditto




fyreredsub -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/28/2005 3:49:35 PM)

if i loved him i would stay, children can be adopted, i wouldnt cheat and no its no one else's business.




Dracironsgirl -> RE: Would you start and feel good in this relationship? (11/29/2005 1:15:46 PM)

hello Sir .....if i loved Him then yes i would stay with Him no matter what.




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