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Breath play ideas? - 9/7/2008 1:15:23 PM

meandmymistress

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Hi everyone,

My slave and I want to try some breath play and wondered if anyone can shed some light on how we could do this...is it as simple as cupping his mouth and nose so that he can't breathe or is there more to this...

I know he loves it when I muffle his cries and moans but how can I bring him to that point where I'm in total control of him...and his breathing?

Thanks for your input!

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RE: Breath play ideas? - 9/7/2008 1:18:58 PM

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Staying in the safer, more casual areas of breath control -
Hand over mouth stuff is always good as you know. Add gloves for a better effect. Or, force a pair of your wet panties over his nose and mouth so when you do let him breathe, he is overwhelmed with your scent.
Use your body to smother him -face sitting, using your breasts, etc.
Duct tape over the mouth, pinch his nose shut - this can also be effective, but of course, be careful.

I get all sorts of crazy, hot inspiration from the most tame forms of breath control - even just *telling* a man to hold his breath until I say to stop.

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RE: Breath play ideas? - 9/7/2008 1:23:11 PM

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Amazing how simple the ideas can be! I always find myself trying to come up with creative ways that I get stuck and give up...thanks so much for these ideas!!

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RE: Breath play ideas? - 9/7/2008 1:30:28 PM

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I like two forms of breath play.. but again we are dealing with someones life so you must always use caution.

a hand on the throat, in a C shape. Thumb on one artery under the side of the jaw, your fingers on the other. just for a couple of seconds does the trick.

Another lovely one is a deep kiss ~ be sure not to blow your air into them.. as this is harmful. and then clamp off thier nose with your free hand while still in that deep deep kiss. About 5 seconds of feeding on thier mouth and forcing them to kiss you back, and not allowing air should really get them over the edge. ~ and you as well.

I just adore hands on my neck.. but not every one does so the kiss is a good and much safer one for most.

You never want to push on the front of the throat.. you can make thier throat collapse.

always go slow and easy.. have a signal for them to use if it is too much for them. Some use they hold on untill it is too much, some use the double tap out method. A slient signal is always a good good idea. esp in the begining to build trust and to know thier level. I hope this helps.

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RE: Breath play ideas? - 9/7/2008 2:31:09 PM

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my mistress chokes my throat with one hand ..with her other hand she plugs my nose and then she gives me a full mouth kiss making sure her mouth completely covers mine ...while doing so she counts to 10 with a muffle sound voice to see if i can last that long

her kissing me is awesome and sometimes too she has my cock in her on top while she is riding me

yes the lady is multi -talented

love when she takes control ..mal

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RE: Breath play ideas? - 9/8/2008 8:48:07 PM

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I like to violate my boy's mouth with a dildo and make him keep it deep in his mouth, to the back of his throat. He has to hold his breath to prevent gagging. I like to count and tell him to hold it there until I pull it out. It's a major turn-on for both of us!

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RE: Breath play ideas? - 9/8/2008 8:54:41 PM

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The coolest thing I ever did that involved breathplay was an elaborate rope system that I used with my girls hair and her collar.

We used eye hooks at the end of the bed, she was handcuffed to that, then eye hooks in the wall at the head of the bed, she was shackled to those, then an eye hook over those. The rope was tied into her hair, and then into the ring at the back of her collar. I had two ways to pull, either just the hair, just the throat, or both. (Guess that's three huh?)

It was pretty time consuming to set up, but worked well and was set up, because the way the bed was in place, that I could sit on the bed beside her, which gave me a close proximity, so I could paddle her, talk to her and deny her breath and movement.

Of course there is the good old fashioned hand control. Dildo control. Cock gags. Belts...the list goes on and on.

I like the Full Metal Jacket version as well. Hold out your hand, place it on the throat, make them kneel and then put prtessure against your hand until they are passed out. Probably not the safest in the world, but visually and mentally stimulating.

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RE: Breath play ideas? - 9/8/2008 9:27:34 PM

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Masks and water bring many other options. For sake of RACK, Jay Wiseman has a bit about breath play; I think I read it at the end of SM 101.

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ORIGINAL: auroraborealis
Another lovely one is a deep kiss ~ be sure not to blow your air into them.. as this is harmful. and then clamp off thier nose with your free hand while still in that deep deep kiss.

We did this technique at a fetish show once. I am not sure if the person doing the kissing blew her air into the kissee or not. I am trying to understand why it might be harmful but am coming up empty. Would you tell us more?

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RE: Breath play ideas? - 9/8/2008 9:50:17 PM

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Noted BDSM safety nazi Jay Wiseman would have you believe that any form of breath play might result in someone dying. That may be somewhat of an exaggeration, but there are dangers that should not be glossed over. There are many sports that are more dnagerous than breath control, yet people accept the risks for the thrill involved.

Just preventing someone from breathing for a few seconds is very unlikely to cause any problem, especially if it is done in such a way that active muscle tension on the part of the top is required to maintain the lack of breath, and that as soon as you release it they can breathe. Examples are the hand over nose and mouth, or the kiss combined with holding the nose closed.

Much more dangerous are forms where some action on the part of the top is necessary to release them from the control. Queening is an example here, or many forms of noose play, including predicament bondage that involves a noose or a bag over the head. A few moments of distraction at the wrong time (for example during orgasm, or maybe the phone rings...) and you have a dead body.

Practicing carotid artery control (the sleeper hold, the passout game etc.) has its own dangers. Bear in mind that in addition to the possibility of cardiac arrest, some amount of brain cell death occurs when the brain is deprived of oxygen long enough to lose consciousness. Brain damage is cumulative. Those cells never grow back, and the more you lose, the more chance that something important will be lost forever.

Cardiac arrest from vaso-vagal nerve response is one rare but possible outcome. Young healthy people are less likely to have problems, but a number of kids have died doing it. Although these chokes are commonly used in the sport of Judo, apparently without any reported incidents, the degree of supervision and training of the people who engage in that sport is vastly different than that of most people playing with erotic asphyxiation.

If you are going to do this, both parties must know and accept the risks involved. The chances are pretty small if you avoid the really risky practices. however they are not zero. Someone may die. If they do, the other party is going to jail, at the very least for manslaughter (negligent homicide).

In this respect, breath play differs from sky diving, or heli-skiing, or rock climbing. No one goes to jail if you die doing those things.

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RE: Breath play ideas? - 9/8/2008 10:16:31 PM

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Aside from the many forms of choking and smothering (which I'm certain more experienced people can inform you about), I really adore this one action that I can only really describe as 'sharing breath.' It's not quite breath play (as in it doesn't necessarily need to have a theme of control), but it will definitely give you a head rush.

This takes a lot of coordination with your partner but I feel it is very worth it.

It requires a very open-mouth kiss that is also tightly sealed, and good timing. In that open mouth kiss, you and your partner need to coordinate your breaths. Partner 1 breaths out, while partner 2 breaths in, then partner 2 breaths out and partner 1 breaths in. Repeat.

Every time you trade breaths, there is less oxygen and more carbon dioxide in the air that you are sharing. This means that your brain is losing the oxygen it needs, leading to the fun fuzzy light headiness and general sense of euphoria (brains do odd things when denied oxygen).

Due to this lack of oxygen, you of course must not prolong this kiss for too long. I wouldn't want to hold it for more than 10 seconds (without sneaking a breath of air). And believe me, 10 seconds is a plenty long time to get light headed.

One thing that I do like about this breath sharing kiss, is that at any time, if one parts starts panicking, he or she can easily take a needed breath of air in through his or her nose.

That's all, and have fun with experimenting! (And be safe!)

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RE: Breath play ideas? - 9/9/2008 6:05:48 AM

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Cardiac arrest from vaso-vagal nerve response is one rare but possible outcome. Young healthy people are less likely to have problems, but a number of kids have died doing it.

I don't remember the terminology but the reference to cardiac arrest seems to fit the gist of what I remember from Jay Wiseman's statement.

When the brain detects a depleting supply of oxygen, it sends the heart a signal to pump faster. If the signal from the brain reaches the heart at a particular point in its cycle, it can disrupt the cycle and lead to cardiac arrest--there is a question of timing and health of heart. The odds of the signal reaching the heart at that moment of vulnerability are very small. The odds increase the longer the breath is held and the faster the heart beats but are still small enough that one is more likely to pass out first.

I cannot remember whether this point was in the article but I expect that this risk would be greater for play that involves blocking the blood flow since the acceleration of heart beat would not bring any new oxygen to the brain even if there is still some present in the blood.

The point I took away from Jay's statement was that while the odds are small, they cannot be made zero, for which reason he advises against it. I have still engaged in breath play after reading the article. I appreciate that the article left me a bit more informed about it.

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