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BitaTruble -> Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 11:57:15 AM)

After watching the Gov debate with Sarah Palin, I switched over the Joe Biden's Meet the Press interview.

There is quite a stark contrast between the two candidates and honestly, I think Palin will be in a bit of trouble during the debate. Biden recalls with ease, specific legislation, is knowledgeable on all issues, doesn't hesitate to answer questions etc. He seems much more comfortable with the process of rapid fire so his experience in that area will be to his benefit.

On the down side, the man takes credit for .. well, just about everything good and places blame for just about everything that's bad. Typical politician stuff and it shows. On the other hand, he's pretty much a working shlub just like most of the rest of us.

I was a bit suprised to find out that he is considered one of the 'poorest' members in congress as personal wealth was not something I looked at when I checked him out when he was still a candidate for Prez so I researched it and he actually has an average net worth ($100,000 - 150,000) in comparison to others in congress even taking out a second mortgage on his house to finance the college education of one of his kids. I liked that about him even though I dislike that he sticks his foot in his mouth, glosses over his flaws and exaggerates his achievments. He's smart though, educated and knowledgable and that shows well in his interviews.

I'm looking forward to the debate.





pahunkboy -> RE: Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 12:14:22 PM)

if she was more like Ron Paul, I would vote for them.

the 2 choices are empire vs....  empire.

Palin is dynamic and could be a leader maybe.
But too soon.  What works in Alaska wont work in urban, suburban metros.

ask yourself this.   is this the best either party can offer?

a country of 300,000,000.  and this is the BEST?

all this spending- whose money?  Money that nobody has.


The more I see the more I think a separate barter, communications, system regiment has to happen.

how is it a entity with negative value can bail out Bear Stearns?  

that is like me loaning you my horse. I dont have it- but it is yours to ride all day long,






Termyn8or -> RE: Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 3:35:28 PM)

Biden, didn't I hear something about him having some kinfolk killed by a drunk driver but it turned out that he wasn't drunk, nor found at fault even, and has since died ?

Hey, I didn't say I liked any of them, all I say is Obama is the lesser of two evils. They are all dirty rotten and crooked, otherwise they wouldn't be there.

T




cloudboy -> RE: Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 3:43:43 PM)

Here's Alec Badwin's take on Sarah Palin.

It was very colorful.




Thadius -> RE: Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 5:18:15 PM)

I thought he was leaving the country and denouncing his citizenship if Bush won the election[8|]





Sanity -> RE: Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 6:37:23 PM)


Ha! Alec Baldwin says he was wrong, Senator McCain isn't George Bush - that Governor Palin is George Bush...

That's hilarious!!!

How desperate will these Hollywood types get when Obama really starts sinking in the polls?

That's priceless!!! Thanks for sharing that...   [sm=rofl.gif]


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Here's Alec Badwin's take on Sarah Palin.

It was very colorful.




bipolarber -> RE: Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 7:05:49 PM)

How did Sarah Palin do on Meet the Press? Face the Nation? This Week With George Stephanopolus, maybe? Anything? Not even "Church Chat" with the Church Lady?

Um... has she given ANY one on one interviews in the last two weeks since being nominated? Two weeks ago?

Uh-huh... : /

But, we ARE getting video of her talking to her church, telling everyone that God prefers HER plan for the pipeline, that God has a plan for Iraq, and it's our war...

They are making a HUGE mistake by keeping her out of the press. They're basically expressing their lack of confidence in her ability to stay on message, and not go "christian nutcase" in front of the cameras.

But, that's okay. The longer they keep her in an "undisclosed location", media-wise, the worse it looks for them. And the better for my preferred candidates.




SilverWulf -> RE: Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 7:18:28 PM)

Why should she go on any of these shows?

The talking heads are not entitled to ask her anything at all, they don't control her nor do they control the election process.  The arrogance of Chris Matthews and the others is astounding, thinking that they have the power to demand an interview.

The leftist media has spent the last 9 days tearing her to pieces with false stories, wild guesses, and horrible spin.  Not just her, but her family too.  Whatever happened to 'family is off limits'?

She doesn't owe these talk shows a damn thing.

What she is doing, is exactly what she should do.  Bypass the media and talk directly to the American People... which is what Reagan did and is part of the reason he won so deciseively in two elections.




bipolarber -> RE: Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 7:37:00 PM)

So you are willing to elect someone that you've never heard express their views, or defend them. You are willing to do this with the rough shape the US is in right now... You are willing to take someone who, if she weren't female, wouldn't have even been considered for the VP pick... and put her one heartbeat away from the single most powerful job on the face of the Earth... Someone who has direct access to our nuclear capability.

What does that say about you?




SilverWulf -> RE: Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 7:56:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

So you are willing to elect someone that you've never heard express their views, or defend them. You are willing to do this with the rough shape the US is in right now... You are willing to take someone who, if she weren't female, wouldn't have even been considered for the VP pick... and put her one heartbeat away from the single most powerful job on the face of the Earth... Someone who has direct access to our nuclear capability.

What does that say about you?


I am willing to vote for someone who has the guts to stand up to the media and tell them that they are in fact irrelevant.  I am willing to vote for someone I've met in person, someone that I've heard and seen speaking all across the country telling everyone what their views and positions on the issues are.  Someone who does answer questions, when those questions are posed by people who really want to hear the answers and not some media elitist who is trying to smear her.  Someone who knows what being a conservative means and isn't ashamed or apologetic about it. 

I don't give a damn that she's a female, she's a solid conservative with a good record to back up her words.  Whether or not you believe that record, or agree with her positions, is irrelevant.

What, you think that because she's female she isn't qualified to lead this country and that she shouldn't have access to the nuclear arsenal?  How very progressive of you.  Oh, btw, she's in the running to be Vice President, not President in case you forgot.






cyberdude611 -> RE: Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 8:12:52 PM)

quote:

switched over the Joe Biden's Meet the Press interview.

There is quite a stark contrast between the two candidates and honestly, I think Palin will be in a bit of trouble during the debate. Biden recalls with ease, specific legislation, is knowledgeable on all issues, doesn't hesitate to answer questions etc. He seems much more comfortable with the process of rapid fire so his experience in that area will be to his benefit.

On the down side, the man takes credit for .. well, just about everything good and places blame for just about everything that's bad. Typical politician stuff and it shows. On the other hand, he's pretty much a working shlub just like most of the rest of us.

I was a bit suprised to find out that he is considered one of the 'poorest' members in congress as personal wealth was not something I looked at when I checked him out when he was still a candidate for Prez so I researched it and he actually has an average net worth ($100,000 - 150,000) in comparison to others in congress even


Biden is a 35-year senator. Of course he's going to be up to date on legislative issues.

Bush lost 2 of 3 debates against Kerry (another 30+ year Senator) in 2004.

That's why John McCain is more than likely going to win at least a few of the debates against Obama.




cloudboy -> RE: Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 8:39:06 PM)

quote:

Bush lost 2 of 3 debates against Kerry


It makes me wonder, did Bush have a failed presidency or did the country experience a failed electorate?




bipolarber -> RE: Joe Biden: Meet the Press (9/8/2008 9:03:09 PM)

I am willing to vote for someone who has the guts to stand up to the media and tell them that they are in fact irrelevant.  I am willing to vote for someone I've met in person, someone that I've heard and seen speaking all across the country telling everyone what their views and positions on the issues are. 

Oh, so you've met her then! So, what's she like in person? You feel comfortable with her, even though she belongs to a church that claims to "cure" gays, speaks in tounges, and has preperation drills for the rapture? That when she speaks about her position, she brings up that God supports HER plan for the gas pipeline? That she wants Creationisim taught in every classroom across the US? That she once tried to have books banned in her local library?
 
Oh, and guess what? The press is NOT irrelevant. If you knew anything about American Democratic history, you'd realize that the founders felt that a free press was paramount to a well functioning democracy. Our system of government works best when you have a well informed electorate... not when they are voting for an unknown with a history of extremisim.

Someone who does answer questions, when those questions are posed by people who really want to hear the answers and not some media elitist who is trying to smear her.  Someone who knows what being a conservative means and isn't ashamed or apologetic about it. 

But you see, that's the problem: she isn't answering questions. So far, all she's done is stand at a podium and give speeches on the party line. She hasn't been interviewed by anyone, and has not been asked anything but the softest of softball questions from a crowd.
 
The fact that just today, she let slip that she had no idea that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were publicly funded companies, or what their importance was, is REALLY troubling. What the hell else does she NOT know, that is supposedly basic knowledge of all other conservatives?
 
 

I don't give a damn that she's a female, she's a solid conservative with a good record to back up her words.  Whether or not you believe that record, or agree with her positions, is irrelevant.

Well, her record so far is pretty piss poor, don't you think? She's only been the pick for VP for two weeks and already we're finding out she's telling us whoppers:
 
The "sorry kids, I had to fire that cook" lie. (She actually just transferred the cook to other duties, at a higher pay scale, but foisted this story off on the "drugged trout conservatives" because it made her look like she was saving the taxpayers of AK money.)
 
The "I sold the jet on ebay" lie (She actually sold it privately to a campaign contributor, and the state of AK took a loss on it, when she claimed it was a profitable sale on ebay.)
 
The "Thanks, but no thanks." on the funds for the bridge to nowhere lie. (She was for the bridge project, she accepted the money, then kept it after the plug was pulled on the bridge. THEN she decided she was against the bridge in the first place.)
 
The "I'm against earmarks" lie. (She herself hired lobbiests to get several million in earmarks for her small town in Wusszilla, AK.)
 
 


What, you think that because she's female she isn't qualified to lead this country and that she shouldn't have access to the nuclear arsenal?  How very progressive of you.  Oh, btw, she's in the running to be Vice President, not President in case you forgot.

If you bother to re-read my previous post, I said that she wasn't qualified, period. Not because she's female, but just because someone...anyone else... of her qualifications... isn't. Not for this job. She was the one who said, on videotape, that she had NO IDEA what the VP did. If McCain had picked a guy who had her same exact resume, he simply wouldn't have picked them to be on the ticket at all.
 
And yes, I remember she's running for VP. Do YOU remember what happens to a VP, when the President (say, one who is 73, and has had skin cancer twice, and a history of medical problems as long as my arm) dies in office? It's only happened 7 out of 43 times in the history of the US, and McCain will be history's oldest president of the US, should he win.
 
They even checked Insurance Industry Actuary tables, and found that McCain has a 1 in 3 chance of dying in his first year as President. (According to his age, health, and it being a high pressure job.) So, you REALLY want this pick as your commander in chief? REALLY?





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