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ourdestiny -> is there any fairness? (9/9/2008 12:13:28 PM)

I had a wonderful profile and met a german Master whom I adored, our relation is close to three months and during that he informed me that he needed many slaves and I really had no problem with that. He had access to my profile whereby he kept on searching under the pretext that it was me searching again I had no problem. But only last week was told that there was 20 something Mistress whom my profile was changed to her as hers, that rearly hurt me a lot. On the 8th I was allowed to talk the Mistress and out of nowhere during our chat online she said I was jealous, definately I reacted and the Master was all the way on her side. My question is "if this Dom take sites and is not fair, will he really be able to handle a poly family, whereby its normal for women to have fights. Im in my early fifties and think being a slave does not warrant any one to think that Im a door mat. The issue being again, during this conversation between the three of us, she showed no respect whatsoever, she just called him by his name continously and he neve objected.

NB. You know yourself out there, I dont think you can handle a poly family. And why bother contact older matured women knowing very well that your interests are in younger women. Good luck in your search and it would seem you will never get the reall one that you want. How deceiving and dishonest you are.




NuevaVida -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/9/2008 12:21:01 PM)

If I'm understanding you correctly, he used your profile, pretending to be you, to scout for other women?  And you had no problem with this?

I think you both need a lesson in honesty vs. deception.




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/9/2008 12:48:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ourdestiny
My question is "if this Dom take sites and is not fair, will he really be able to handle a poly family, whereby its normal for women to have fights. Im in my early fifties and think being a slave does not warrant any one to think that Im a door mat. The issue being again, during this conversation between the three of us, she showed no respect whatsoever, she just called him by his name continously and he neve objected.


Ok, aside from the blatant dishonesty of doing a search for others on someone else's profile, pretending to be them, there are several huge perception issue here that I feel needs to be addressed.

(1) multiple women in the same household do NOT necessarily have to fight. It is possible to be in a poly household where there are multiple women and have them behave as mature adults and discuss their issues reasonably. I am always concerned when I hear a person say that it is "normal" for jealousy and argumentativeness to exist in poly or multi-servant households. It may be 'common', but 'common' does not mean "necessary" or "normal".

(2)I would agree that being a bond-servant (the term we use in our household for a completely yielding servant) does not mean being a door-mat. It doesn't mean being belligerant or argumentative either. It requires being honest with oneself about what one is looking for, and not settling for relationships that are unsuitable just to have -some- relationship. There is a difference between being a 'doormat' and being capable of yielding completely, in a trusting, healthy, relationship. Your reaction, and your perception that being with other women in a relationship means that they will naturally fight, indicates to me that poly may not be something you are really, truly interested in being involved in -- it doesn't sound to me like you are graciously yielding to this idea, and that it is bothering you more than you are willing to admit.

(3) You mention that the 20 year old woman involved in your situation was a Mistress -- later on, you comment that she called the Master by his first name and he didn't say a word about it... well.. why would he? If she is his -equal- and not his servant, OR if they have not finalized her position with him, it makes sense that she would address him by some term other than one that would indicate her submission to him. Calling someone by name, if they allow or encourage that, is NOT being disrespectful. The only time it is disrespectful is if a submissive person is already -in- a D/s relationship with someone, and has agreed to use a certain appellation when speaking with that dominant individual, and then does not do so.

I would not continue a relationship with someone who lied to others during the course of our relationship and expected me to contribute to that lie by my allowing hir to use my profile to scout hir next acquisition... but at the same time, I think that you need to consider the choices that -you- made that contributed to the situation you find yourself in, and figure out before getting into another relationship, what will signify a healthy relationship for -you- and settle for nothing else. Otherwise, you will find yourself railing at the clouds for dropping rain for years to come.

Calla Firestorm




ourdestiny -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/9/2008 1:01:05 PM)

Thanx for the honest response and this is an eye opener and a lesson to be careful  in futures




KatyLied -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/9/2008 1:10:49 PM)

quote:

He had access to my profile whereby he kept on searching under the pretext that it was me searching again I had no problem.


You reap what you sow.




ourdestiny -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/9/2008 1:14:00 PM)

Thanx for the advice and I really appreciate it. This man is very dishonest as even now he is searching with my profile which was slavegerman and has even changed the password of which I dont have access, I had to create a new profile.




Huntertn -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/9/2008 6:03:03 PM)

Best to let this one go..way too slick for you..and for many I think..just too slick..




DesFIP -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/9/2008 6:06:21 PM)

You may want to contact the site administrators about the previous profile. It is possible they will de-activate it. Beyond that, you allowed him to write to others pretending to be you and didn't care that you were being used and were being equally dishonest.

Next time, take the high road, and don't do things you know aren't right. Don't ignore the red flags in the future.

BTW I'm submissive and I call him by his first name. What is a workable protocol for you does not necessarily work for anyone else.




Focus50 -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/10/2008 3:53:33 AM)

Whoa; it sounds like a plot from BDSM 90210 - and you say you're *fifty*??? 
 
You really didn't hear alarm bells from his horny-poly fantasies or the ensuing lies, deceptions and dramas befitting of teenagers?
 
Focus.




ourdestiny -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/10/2008 5:25:15 AM)

I really appreciatre your response and will in future listen to my sixth sense.




HeavansKeeper -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/10/2008 6:21:22 AM)

Destiny, I've not been here long, but I have seen ~40 threads started with very similar stories. They meet a guy they thought was great, he isn't great, but the hurt woman has trouble accepting that the dance he put on to woo you was temporary.

It is usually met with the same callous (though often "frank and truthful" are more accurate) responses.

I learned quickly just how many men use the guise of understanding the nature of power exchange to abuse a woman. I've never met a vanilla man who wasn't jealous or extremely intrigued by my blowjob toy, the one I call Pet.

The same forces that allow a woman to fall desperately for the wrong man could've allowed her to be a wonderful submissive to the right man. The desire for that position is so deep - she wants it so badly - she is ready to lie to herself.

Don't lose that fire, Destiny, or any other hurt submissives. You'll need it when -he*- comes around.





*Not Jesus.




daddysliloneds -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/10/2008 11:39:06 AM)

you both plotted to be dishonest through the whole profile bullshit, and now you have a problem with it because it came back and bit you in the ass---how the fuck old are you because you're acting like a three year old!

it is NOT common for females to fight and argue amongst themselves or with each other.  what planet do you live on?

i call the dominant man in my life, who i've been with for two years now, by his first name, or daddy.  others refer to him as my master.  he's good with anything i call him because he's secure enough in himself and our relationship to know how i feel and i certainly respect him.  perhaps you're just more protocol oriented than us, and even if you are, why in the world would you expect an un-owned person to call any dominant man  'master'?

to me, this whole post, especially with the mention of names and a personal note to the culprit(your master?  ha, ha,ha;  now that's a good one), reeks of a woman scorned and nothing more, who has been blocked in all ways, from any measure of contact of said man who she claims to belong to and is just reaching out to try and ruin him, his fun and/or his reputation...

you know, i always thought that blackballing someone on these boards was against the aup; guess we'll see if this whole forum topic and posts disappear.




ourdestiny -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/10/2008 1:17:22 PM)

Thanx for your honest response, it was a good encouragement




NihilusZero -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/10/2008 8:19:43 PM)

Trust and trustworthiness are the pillars of any good relationship.




candystripper -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/11/2008 11:25:05 AM)

ourdestiny, poly is hard...very, very hard.  I am monogamous, which isn't easy either, but at least it limits the primary relationship to two people.  Your Master should not have allowed another 'member of the family' to speak disrespectfully to you -- but dear, allowing him to use your profile to look for others (?) sounds deceitful in and of itself.
 
If you truly are poly, and not just attracted to this one Man, then you will have to work hard on getting clear on what your vision of 'poly' really is...and equally hard for the few rare Men who are up to the relationships it entails.
 
Best wishes.
 
candystripper [sm=pole.gif]




goodpet -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/11/2008 3:28:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50
Whoa; it sounds like a plot from BDSM 90210 - and you say you're *fifty*???  
 You really didn't hear alarm bells from his horny-poly fantasies or the ensuing lies, deceptions and dramas befitting of teenagers?
 Focus.


LOL, thanks.. i was thinking the same thing.. 50+ ?? when i read it i was thinking 20's..





patina -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/11/2008 4:23:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HeavansKeeper

The same forces that allow a woman to fall desperately for the wrong man could've allowed her to be a wonderful submissive to the right man. The desire for that position is so deep - she wants it so badly - she is ready to lie to herself.

Don't lose that fire, Destiny, or any other hurt submissives. You'll need it when -he*- comes around.

*Not Jesus.


Thank you for that remark as another 50 some yr old slave who got taken in by a few players she appreciates the encouragement.  We desire to please so bad, and in my case have been out of the --dating field-- so long forgot how to weed out the toads.  Am learning to a lot better now though.

patina   




Seeking2Pls -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/11/2008 5:15:45 PM)

This sounds to be as if it was a strictly "online" relationship? I just have to add,I have been with my "Dominant" other for well over 10 years now.During that time,I have never addressed him directly by his first name. I refer to him by his name often,but have never directly addressed him by his given name.

We are both professional,family oriented people. For me..his name is Sir...I wouldnt really know how to adress him any other way. Kind of like meeting someone named Bob,and then all of a sudden you need to call him Harry.

Thats just the way it has worked for us.




KnightofMists -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/11/2008 5:58:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

If I'm understanding you correctly, he used your profile, pretending to be you, to scout for other women?  And you had no problem with this?

I think you both need a lesson in honesty vs. deception.


this was my first impression as well.




ourdestiny -> RE: is there any fairness? (9/12/2008 11:38:57 AM)

your encouragement has made me stronger and Ive really moved on with my life, Thank you very much for your support Candystripper. kind regards




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