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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/10/2008 3:52:49 PM   
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Yup, use to get that from woman all the time especially the model types.  When I was in my 20's I did ... well allmost anything with a pussy that would say yes...lol. Anyways, it was pretty common for me to run into woman that would tell me how great they were especially when it came to giving head. Lots of them turned out to be horible.  I have had several woman that could have easily graced the pages of mens magazines back then and they all had one thing in common... every one of them seemd to feel that being great at sex meant laying on your back ... and that was it.  I mean .... thats pretty much all they did...LOL. I have even walked out on woman before I was or them wree finished.
What did I do about it?   Dumped all of them....lol.  Didnt even try to improve anything just got rid of them.
Want to make a pretty model type girl cry her eyes out?  Go limp in the middle of the blow job after she has spent an hour telling you how great she was. Some people are just holes.


And some guys are just assholes.

She was probably *told* she was great at head- ever think of that?


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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/12/2008 6:32:07 AM   
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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/12/2008 9:10:56 AM   
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137 ways to give a blow job???  Prove it. Show me.


Wow. Who'da thunk it? That's 2.74 times the number of ways to leave your lover.

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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/13/2008 5:51:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		I always adapt myself when giving oral completely based on reactions and afterward if intending on finding myself in that situation with that person... ask how it went and what I messed up on. Usually there's something they like specially that I would not know-- every guy and his equipment is different.

Can I brag and say I usually get great compliments? To be honest though, I've been working on getting and using feedback for years... rather than assuming I can't improve...

On the other hand, I've had tons of sex and enjoy it immensely but know I'm not any good at it. My first boyfriend that I had sex with trained me very well not to move at all -- and I have discovered over the ensuing 3 years that this is not a good thing, but training myself out of that is... difficult. On the other hand, I do actually tell people about my problem and that I'm trying to fix it... most of the time before having sex. So... is it that big a problem if I admit to it?

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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/15/2008 1:21:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

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ORIGINAL: FRSguy

Yup, use to get that from woman all the time especially the model types.  When I was in my 20's I did ... well allmost anything with a pussy that would say yes...lol. Anyways, it was pretty common for me to run into woman that would tell me how great they were especially when it came to giving head. Lots of them turned out to be horible.  I have had several woman that could have easily graced the pages of mens magazines back then and they all had one thing in common... every one of them seemd to feel that being great at sex meant laying on your back ... and that was it.  I mean .... thats pretty much all they did...LOL. I have even walked out on woman before I was or them wree finished.
What did I do about it?   Dumped all of them....lol.  Didnt even try to improve anything just got rid of them.
Want to make a pretty model type girl cry her eyes out?  Go limp in the middle of the blow job after she has spent an hour telling you how great she was. Some people are just holes.


And some guys are just assholes.

She was probably *told* she was great at head- ever think of that?



Probably.  What guy will say to a girl that's giving him head, "Damn, you suck."  No guy if he wants to continue to receive. 

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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/15/2008 2:04:29 PM   
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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/15/2008 9:06:41 PM   
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Have you ever been with a partner that totally over exaggerates their sexual skills? Then to find out they are actually horrible and stiil talk about how great they are.


Yep.

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How do you redirect someone with an overblown ego???


There are a zillion things you can do, most involving communication... however, you can talk until you're blue in the face, but nothing will change unless he (or she) is truly interested in making an effort.

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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/15/2008 9:33:10 PM   
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 however, you can talk until you're blue in the face, but nothing will change unless he (or she) is truly interested in making an effort.


I don't mind drawing a map (with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back) but you know how some men are about asking for directions!

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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/16/2008 12:00:02 AM   
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Have you ever been with a partner that totally over exaggerates their sexual skills? Then to find out they are actually horrible and stiil talk about how great they are. How do you redirect someone with an overblown ego???

Alot of ppl do that, but I've found that well adjusted people don't seem to -- I figure it's a coping mechanism for people who feel lacking somehow.

-- Allen

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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/16/2008 2:49:12 PM   
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I don't mind drawing a map (with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back) but you know how some men are about asking for directions!


lol... I do understand, though diagrams and illustrations wouldn't necessarily help some.

The point is, unless someone is willing to really listen, look and learn... then put that new knowledge to practice, no amount of communication will solve the problem.

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ORIGINAL: cmatrix4761

Alot of ppl do that, but I've found that well adjusted people don't seem to -- I figure it's a coping mechanism for people who feel lacking somehow.


I don't really agree, cmatrix.  I don't see it as having to do with lack of adjustment or insecurity... more like apathy and over-confidence.  The men I've known who are similar to this tended to blame me for not responding like all the other women they'd been with... if I didn't thoroughly enjoy what limited ministrations they employed, then there was obviously something wrong with me and it was my problem. 

There was no insecurity on their part... they were perfectly confident that any compliments from previous lovers were genuine and well placed.  I don't find that surprising as people, in general, have an easier time accepting compliments and are more dubious about criticism.


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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/16/2008 3:55:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		LOL... the "circles and arrows" comment reminded me of a story a friend of mine told me one night. She had been seeing a braggart for a couple of dates, and was finding out that, although his dick size estimation was correct, his ability with it was less than compelling. To top it off, he had ZERO oral skills. None.

She solved the problem by first binding him to the bed, and taking control of the ride... secondly, after letting him up, and being informed how badly he went down, she drew a bullseye around her clit with lipstick and kept a crop in her hand... every time he didn't listen to her direction, or home-in on the target... Whap!

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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/16/2008 7:02:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		i think if people do that it's one big sign that tells all they are ...are phony.

i know hardly anything about sex...part of being raised where i was..haha. but instead of trying to deny it...its one of the things i say i am open to learning and let my master teach me too (which is fun).

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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/16/2008 10:09:44 PM   
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i think if people do that it's one big sign that tells all they are ...are phony.

i know hardly anything about sex...part of being raised where i was..haha. but instead of trying to deny it...its one of the things i say i am open to learning and let my master teach me too (which is fun).

While I don't share her enthusiasm, I have to second her meggy's remarks: I'm not horribly experienced sexually, but I'm not afraid to admit it and I'm always willing to explore (well, except for homosexuality, one of the few ventures I won't explore).  For me, it's probably because I don't really care much about sex -- I'd rather be either working or exploring new experiences.  Anybody that doesn't like it is reading too much into my life and not enough into their own :)

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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/18/2008 12:06:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Great thread, interesting read.  But I think I may have missed the part where the original question was answered. Although I did find bipolarber's scenario hilarious.  Did it work or did she find out he was actually a bottom in disguise?

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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/18/2008 12:10:40 AM   
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O yes.
 
I spent six months speaking daily by phone with a man who kept telling me all the wondorous things we'd do, if we were together.
 
Well, finally we met...and he was impotent.  There was no way we were going to do any of it.
 
I felt -- still feel -- I had been lied to and that investing in a man by phone is like pissing in the wind.
 
candysripper 


   Tis why you posted on ED !!
Besides venting at us, did you say this to him?
Probably only got ED after he met her.

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RE: Sexually Ignorant - 9/18/2008 1:29:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was with a Dom who bragged about how great he was at oral sex. How he could go down on a woman for hours and make her cum over and over. Seeing as how oral sex is a huge favorite of mine, I gave him a shot. He lasted way less than an hour and never made me cum. We ended up doing other activities, but after a few times I quit playing with him and sleeping with him to his chagrin. Whenever he asked me why I didn't want to have sex with him, I would try to be nice and let him down gently. One day he kept bugging me and bugging me so I finally told him the truth, "You've never made me cum, why would I want to?" He never asked me to have sex with him again. We are still friends though even after my brutal honesty.

I know there are plenty of women out there who would be more than happy to tell someone what they could be doing to make things more pleasurable, but I have a hard time with that. Now if you are doing something pleasurable, you will definitely know it by the sounds I make and the way I move my body. But that is a different story.

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