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auroraborealis -> RE: ABC Edits Out Palin Objection to ‘Holy War’ Question (9/13/2008 11:01:45 AM)
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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan
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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611
And none of this junk you are finding is going to take voters away from the conservatives. I've not seen conservatives this fired up since Reagan.
McCain hit a home run with Palin. The choice was political and nothing else, but he couldn't have hit that particular ball any further if he had Mickey Mantle standing at the plate. In one stroke, he brought conservatives into the fray by picking a candidate who pandered to their core beliefs, enthralled a decent percentage of women voters, corralled a portion of Hiliary supporters, and countered the sometimes silly thing we humans do when we want to be part of something historic. Regardless of who wins this election, it will now be historic. We will either have a black president or a female vice-president.
The only people he really side-lined with that choice were people like me, independents who vote person over party because I, and a lot like me, don't like the extremes on either side in power. About the only thing Obama has going for him is the fact that he is a captivating and powerful orator. Beyond that, there's not a lot of substance. McCain has the substance, and a history of bucking the Republican party on some issues, but he's shown too often that he's willing to toe the party line for political reasons. If you're a single issue voter or a voter who lumps many issues into one camp, e.g. abortion, liberals, conservatives, then your choice is fairly clear and already determined - and probably was before we even knew who the candidates would be. For people like me, this election has already devolved to choosing the lesser of evils because I don't like either one. Honestly, I'd have loved to have seen Colin Powell on the ticket. He was the only man in the Bush regime who kept my respect and a good part of that was because he so obviously hated doing what he was charged with doing.
The sad fact involved echoes something my brother says all the time, and that is that neither side really gives a shit about you. It's about power and not much else. Why else would political parties spend half a billion dollars to capture a job that will pay less than 2 million during an average 4 year stint.
I want to talk about two of your points here.. Yes I think Palin got a lot of the Hilary voters in the begining in her camp.. however when her actual views on womens issues.. and the issues in general came out.. a huge portion of them fled from her as soon as possible. I know some very staunch Feminazi's who instantly liked her for *just* being the owner of a uterus.. but the second her ideas came out.. all were in dismay.. and left her side. I am sure more will do the same. ( If they have *any* brains at all. ) being Female doesnt mean being pro-female issues.. they are seeing that. Hell you'd think folks like Ann Coulter would have proven that already.
Then we have Collin Powell.... I have wanted him to run for years. I *adore* him.. and he is a wonderful man who *truely* cares deeply for this country and it's people. However he became reviled in the Bush camp.. and they politicaly nutered him for having the *gall* to actualy speak up to Rove, and Dubbya. It was a sad sad day when we lost him as a statesman. They ruined all of his good reputation he had built up over the years.. in just a couple of years. They effectively blocked him from even being in the game.
There was a lot of buzz in DC about him being our first black prez. ( like when his book came out) So sad that isnt possible now. I sure as hell like him a whole lot better then Obama, and McCain isnt even a choice. Any one who will sell out like that... no thanks. We will get sold down the river just like his ideas.
So yet again it is the choice of lesser evils.
Gwyn
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