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People should have one meat-free day a week if they want to make a personal and effective sacrifice that would help tackle climate change, the world's leading authority on global warming has told The Observer

Dr Rajendra Pachauri, chair of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which last year earned a joint share of the Nobel Peace Prize, said that people should then go on to reduce their meat consumption even further.

Pachauri, who was re-elected the panel's chairman for a second six-year term last week, said diet change was important because of the huge greenhouse gas emissions and other environmental problems - including habitat destruction - associated with rearing cattle and other animals. It was relatively easy to change eating habits compared to changing means of transport, he said.

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ORIGINAL: Thadius

First it was the use of certain aerosols, then the factories, then the vehicles... Now they want my steak?

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/09/07-4 

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People should have one meat-free day a week if they want to make a personal and effective sacrifice that would help tackle climate change, the world's leading authority on global warming has told The Observer

Dr Rajendra Pachauri, chair of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which last year earned a joint share of the Nobel Peace Prize, said that people should then go on to reduce their meat consumption even further.

Pachauri, who was re-elected the panel's chairman for a second six-year term last week, said diet change was important because of the huge greenhouse gas emissions and other environmental problems - including habitat destruction - associated with rearing cattle and other animals. It was relatively easy to change eating habits compared to changing means of transport, he said.

They can have my steak, when they pry the gun out of my cold (although allegedly warmer) dead hands.  I saw articles last year suggesting that a  "meat eater on a bike was more harmful to the Earth, than a vegan in a Hummer".  When will the fucking nonsense stop?  The UN has lost any credibility by selling out like they have and can kiss my American ass.

Well there is my rant.  What do you guys think about this one?

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*Hands Thadius a tofu burger*

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

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A lot of the concerns are due to factory farming methods.  If we'd just settle for more expense, we'd decentralize the pork, cattle, chicken industries and feed them what they've evolved to eat, instead of food that makes them sick so that antibiotics are required.  You could have your food source closer to the customers, and do away with sewage ponds, etc.

It's been done in the past.  We could do it again.

thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin
Maybe the survival of nature's lifeforms is all dictated by how well that lifeform adapts to changes in enviroment and as our enviroment changes, we must adapt to that change, allow change to happen, and work with it, not try to stop it, for it might be the key to our survival.

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So, the artic ice is melting, and at a far greater rate than what 'scientists' think should be right, but who says 'scientists' have got it right, sure they have researched, but in that research there are times when change was fast and change was slow, it is just we only seem to get to hear about what can be used to politically control.

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But perhaps we should be looking elsewhere for a cause of change, interesting that the Martian ice caps are melting too and as far as science is concerned, there is no devasting life forms on that planet. The common factor there, is the sun, a ball of burning gas we really do not know enough about to make judgements.

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But the long and the short of it, change happens and we must adapt to survive, the politicians, well anyone in fact that seeks funding by control does have a vested interest in the scares they create, it is just for us, to be aware and not take their word as gospel truth, but demand the full facts before any thinking may be done.

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But why the need for thinking to be done, we cannot halt the changes in our natural enviroment, a force far stronger than us controls that action. Sure we can do something about our own pollution, we can and should, clean up our own mess after us, but in the greater scheme of things, besides scare stories ,really, we have no control.

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A random thought maybe, maybe we evolved as an intelligent life form to cause change ourselves and there learn to adapt to that change ?
Cow farts = politics = control = wealth for those that learn how to control us and our wealth.

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ORIGINAL: Thadius

First it was the use of certain aerosols, then the factories, then the vehicles... Now they want my steak?

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/09/07-4 

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People should have one meat-free day a week if they want to make a personal and effective sacrifice that would help tackle climate change, the world's leading authority on global warming has told The Observer

Dr Rajendra Pachauri, chair of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which last year earned a joint share of the Nobel Peace Prize, said that people should then go on to reduce their meat consumption even further.

Pachauri, who was re-elected the panel's chairman for a second six-year term last week, said diet change was important because of the huge greenhouse gas emissions and other environmental problems - including habitat destruction - associated with rearing cattle and other animals. It was relatively easy to change eating habits compared to changing means of transport, he said.

They can have my steak, when they pry the gun out of my cold (although allegedly warmer) dead hands.  I saw articles last year suggesting that a  "meat eater on a bike was more harmful to the Earth, than a vegan in a Hummer".  When will the fucking nonsense stop?  The UN has lost any credibility by selling out like they have and can kiss my American ass.

Well there is my rant.  What do you guys think about this one?