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Lillyheart -> horrediously 'nilla and testing the ropes (11/29/2005 12:01:18 PM)

alright darlings eres the deal,
I just walked into this lifestyle so to speak. Last weekend i went to my first fetish party. I've always been interested in this lifestyle but im not sure which side of the fence i sit on, weither im sub or dom. im happen to be in the school of thought you have to be a sub befor you can be a good dom. Now do any of you have thoughts on that? i would love to know...




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: horrediously 'nilla and testing the ropes (11/29/2005 12:07:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lillyheart
im happen to be in the school of thought you have to be a sub befor you can be a good dom. Now do any of you have thoughts on that? i would love to know...

It's a common idea. If that's what you want, then go for it. It's not for everyone.

For me, submissives vary greatly in their motivations, backgrounds, and general attitudes. So even another submissive isn't going to totally know what it means to YOU. And if the person isn't a submissive at all, there will be more of a disconnect as well.

As well, simply experiencing scenes or service won't help them understand ME as a person in a relationship, nor will it help develop skills as a dominant.

However, it can be an enriching experience for some people to top or bottom for awhile and see at least some of the issues facing that side of the coin.

And for some it's rather pointless. Figure out what works for you and go with that.

Oh and don't get into a serious commitment for at least 6 months.




JohnWarren -> RE: horrediously 'nilla and testing the ropes (11/29/2005 12:10:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lillyheart

alright darlings eres the deal,
I just walked into this lifestyle so to speak. Last weekend i went to my first fetish party. I've always been interested in this lifestyle but im not sure which side of the fence i sit on, weither im sub or dom. im happen to be in the school of thought you have to be a sub befor you can be a good dom. Now do any of you have thoughts on that? i would love to know...


I've known some who followed the "sub first" route and ended up excellent dominants. I also know some who went that route and are shunned by every submissive who knows them.

There is no one true way. Follow your heart. Do what turns you on. You might well be a switch. A majority of those I know from "way back" seem to switch to one degree or another.

Above all don't get hung up with labels. No where is it written you have to describe yourself or others with single words




Lillyheart -> RE: horrediously 'nilla and testing the ropes (11/29/2005 12:22:08 PM)

thank you guys!




jamesthehumanrug -> RE: horrediously 'nilla and testing the ropes (11/29/2005 1:10:41 PM)

greetings, lilly heart,
i don't want a top, that was ever a bottom.
humbled? nope,and,no thankyou,based ,on the premiss ,that
,if i was born ,for them ,
and ....,spending all my time trying ,to ,understand them ,
and ,....build my life ,under ,so, to speak;
ready,to die;
planned down ,to hoping i can control, that" last 2 seconds ,of my life "given,to a top....
how would i want someone who saw the, undersoles ,of ,another?
...,in ,other words:
they were concieved ,and ,or really ,not" born, to be top and ,to be served."
i guess ridgid is, as ridgid does;
one inflexable-bottom suited, for an, inflexible-top ,(we'd each get a brakedown,if forced,to be the opposit,)
or you really must be desperate,cant find your true compliment ,or you're,in a bind,or comprimized position,and,cant be choosey?.
don't get me wrong; an undecided,or a switch is ,not unlike bi. ,
both are ,to be considered, by ,both :the a.p.a. (american psychiatric, and, psychological-association's), to be the most "well-ballanced" you can be, but,
preference is an individual thing .
ask a top.
personally:NO;i can't worship a -once bottom -,now top,
....cause,TO ME :
it would be an , only, in the moment thing.
EVERYONE ,THAT KNOWS ME ;WOULD BE LAFFING ;LIKE ANYBODY WOULD ,THAT KNOWS A REAL STAUNCH-RED NECK; STRAIGHT-GUY ;who is GOING ,TO MARRY A TRANSEXUAL ,and, HE DON'T EVEN KNOW ,ABOUT, it ,yet,
BUT, EVERYONE-ELSE laffing DOES!!
,let me clarify,for the record:
i don't agree ,with any descrimination ,against t.s. , either
...it's prohibbited ,in massachusetts,by law now ,since: 2004.
i helped work,on the government organization ,that pushed it ,thru.... the multi-cultural psychological association.
i go ,for the "pure";
or reason, to die, for;....
or i won't die ,at all, to any degree ,for anyone who was once considered less(ie: a bottom).
sure: bottom,in life, (ie:pushed, around the bussiness-world , maybe.... )and ,always a must-be- "top" ; 'shake you ,up ,in bed' kinda' person;yes!
,but,
has, to be 100% no, other way "top/dom" ,
from start ,to finish....the i don't know any ,other way ,to be
more constant ; definate kinda' person,or
don't waste you're time,with me,
unless you're babysitting,
or my real top told you, to be ,on top ,of me.
you gotta' think ,in ,that :....
"what, if you were ,on a dessert - island "
kinda' situation.... would you ,then?
i'd have ,to say:
ya,
and ,only ,cause, before i die ,or ,only ,if i have, to i'm sick ,of coconuts ....




ginawithaB -> RE: horrediously 'nilla and testing the ropes (11/29/2005 1:38:43 PM)

Hey Lillyheart:

Welcome to the Life!

Wanted to add there are also some who try to do the sub thing and end up being miserable. Also, "switching," may be a possibliity for you...it's not necessarily abt sub vs. Dom. While I personally don't believe one has to start off sub to progess to Dom, but it is good to know how different forms of play feel, before trying stuff out on a sub. I don't think trying stuff necessitates "subbing," per se.

Enjoy the journey!

gina




littleone35 -> RE: horrediously 'nilla and testing the ropes (11/29/2005 4:03:06 PM)

I agree with lucky. you have to try both to see what fits you best. I alway knew i was a sub but since you are not sure try both. i wish you best of luck.

littleone




Manawyddan -> RE: horrediously 'nilla and testing the ropes (12/3/2005 6:42:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lillyheart
I've always been interested in this lifestyle but im not sure which side of the fence i sit on, weither im sub or dom.


What does it mean when people say this? It makes no sense to me. Do you fantasize about controlling other people? Then you're a dom. Do you fantasize about other people controlling you? Then you're a sub. If you fantasize about both, then you're a switch (probably).




snellbucket -> RE: horrediously 'nilla and testing the ropes (12/3/2005 6:48:23 AM)

I am also horrediously 'nilla and meeting a master (met already) this Monday for our first BDSM session.

I've had a long desire 20+ years (I am 35) to be bound and to endure bondage and I finally get my chance.

As you may have seen in another post, he wants to try Strappado the first time, slowly working me into it. It sounds hot but I just don't know if I am ready for it. Are subs ever ready?

He has 25+ years experience. He does doesn't, however, like safe words. He monitors breathing, skin color but wants his sub to endure and trust him.

So, unless some of you say "stay away", I'll be seeing him Monday.




Lillyheart -> RE: horrediously 'nilla and testing the ropes (12/8/2005 1:29:10 PM)

Thanks D/darlings! And i will take that 6 months advic, since i hear it very often it seems like an intelligent thing to do!




Hissweetshiv -> RE: horrediously 'nilla and testing the ropes (12/10/2005 5:30:59 AM)

Okay i have to ask.... what is "horrediously"?




theRose4U -> RE: horrediously 'nilla and testing the ropes (12/11/2005 12:11:32 PM)

quote:

He has 25+ years experience. He does doesn't, however, like safe words. He monitors breathing, skin color but wants his sub to endure and trust him.


As long as you have a safeword that he agrees to stop when you use it, you're golden. It's the ones that refuse any kind of safe word and if anything keep going that you have to be alert for. Unfortunatly tied up is NOT the time to have a miscommunication on safe words.
My boy is a newbie and has safe words. I have spanked his butt purple and stopped because my judgement says it's time to...he didn't have to safeword and was rewarded for his trust.




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