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HersAllHers -> Lady Bosses (11/29/2005 12:59:24 PM)
Can a man be made more productive in his work? For the longest time I have been looking for a Domme who would be interested in putting the stirrups to my flanks (FIGURATIVELY!!) to make me more productive in developing my business - and as her just reward help herself to what I have - make me work harder and then 'cuckold' me, spending my money while she dates another man. I've not found this Woman, who can actually succeed in this. It should be simple, from a minimalist point of view, to ask for a list of things I plan to do (day, week, month, year) in the morning (5 minutes) then check progress later (20 min), and order prolongation of CB3000 or give permission for pleasure, and collect her check (at Her discretion) based on how much she has increased the earnings by making me work, by decreasing my grocery budget. A little more elaborate - she gets a piece of equity, she blackmails to make me work harder, she makes me jealous of her lovers. She humiliates me. She hypnotizes and suggests. Okay, there is some work involved, but better than a day job. Although women often register enthusiasm and confidence in doing this, it has never really worked. I don't really understand why. Thoughts? Comments? Oh yes, I know I'm a total dweeb and emotional retard for needing and wanting this kind of a Marine sergeant / taskmistress. I know I'm a dick. It doesn't mean I'm not fun to make me cry, to walk on.

LadyAngelika -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/29/2005 1:07:23 PM)
What you are looking for is a micromanager in essence. There are plenty of micromanaging Dommes out there. Of course, if you have a good business plan that has the potential to be lucrative, I'm sure there will be a woman out there who will be willing to be your drill Mistress. Good luck! - LA

AAkasha -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/29/2005 1:09:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HersAllHers Can a man be made more productive in his work? For the longest time I have been looking for a Domme who would be interested in putting the stirrups to my flanks (FIGURATIVELY!!) to make me more productive in developing my business - and as her just reward help herself to what I have - make me work harder and then 'cuckold' me, spending my money while she dates another man. I've not found this Woman, who can actually succeed in this. It should be simple, from a minimalist point of view, to ask for a list of things I plan to do (day, week, month, year) in the morning (5 minutes) then check progress later (20 min), and order prolongation of CB3000 or give permission for pleasure, and collect her check (at Her discretion) based on how much she has increased the earnings by making me work, by decreasing my grocery budget. A little more elaborate - she gets a piece of equity, she blackmails to make me work harder, she makes me jealous of her lovers. She humiliates me. She hypnotizes and suggests. Okay, there is some work involved, but better than a day job. Although women often register enthusiasm and confidence in doing this, it has never really worked. I don't really understand why. Thoughts? Comments? Oh yes, I know I'm a total dweeb and emotional retard for needing and wanting this kind of a Marine sergeant / taskmistress. I know I'm a dick. It doesn't mean I'm not fun to make me cry, to walk on. I think any woman with the initiative and smarts to want to be self employed would become easily bored and unfulfilled playing this "push the submissive to make him perform game." Why not motivate real employees and face work challenges using her smarts and tenacity and see the real rewards? There are too many pitfalls or potential problems with a man who is motivated to perform (work) only when his dick is hard. A smart businesswoman taps people that are motivated to succeed, are driven and get pleasure in working hard to attain a reward -- not ones that need constant supervision. The measurement of the system you describe would take a lot of work and the woman would have to enjoy micromanagement. I've found that submissives that desire this kind of "motivate me, force me to perform" relationship are incredibly high maintenance and in the end the woman is better off making her own cash. Sorry, just my opinion. Akasha (who runs her own business and has a man working for her, but doesn't need to use his cock to make him get work done)

thetammyjo -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/29/2005 1:19:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha I think any woman with the initiative and smarts to want to be self employed would become easily bored and unfulfilled playing this "push the submissive to make him perform game." Why not motivate real employees and face work challenges using her smarts and tenacity and see the real rewards? There are too many pitfalls or potential problems with a man who is motivated to perform (work) only when his dick is hard. A smart businesswoman taps people that are motivated to succeed, are driven and get pleasure in working hard to attain a reward -- not ones that need constant supervision. The measurement of the system you describe would take a lot of work and the woman would have to enjoy micromanagement. I've found that submissives that desire this kind of "motivate me, force me to perform" relationship are incredibly high maintenance and in the end the woman is better off making her own cash. Sorry, just my opinion. Akasha (who runs her own business and has a man working for her, but doesn't need to use his cock to make him get work done) And some of us just find the idea of micromanaging to be the opposite of being the dominant. So I'd say if you, HersAllHers, are this honest and you haven't found such a person yet who can keep it up, you may need to figure out what more you can offer. Not in terms of stuff related to you but to her alone. From what I read, it all revolves around you really and that probably gets tiresome after a while. Or maybe you could approach someone who sees BDSM as a business, a pro dom maybe, who would be interested in such a financial arrangement and have the organizational skills to micromanage you?

LadyAngelika -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/29/2005 1:22:55 PM)
quote: And some of us just find the idea of micromanaging to be the opposite of being the dominant. That's a very good point TammyJo. In fact both you and Akasha make excellent points. That said, what our OP is asking for might be exactly what someone else is willing to give... stranger things have happened! - LA

GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/29/2005 1:25:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HersAllHers Can a man be made more productive in his work? For the longest time I have been looking for a Domme who would be interested in putting the stirrups to my flanks (FIGURATIVELY!!) to make me more productive in developing my business - and as her just reward help herself to what I have - make me work harder and then 'cuckold' me, spending my money while she dates another man. I've not found this Woman, who can actually succeed in this. It should be simple, from a minimalist point of view, to ask for a list of things I plan to do (day, week, month, year) in the morning (5 minutes) then check progress later (20 min), and order prolongation of CB3000 or give permission for pleasure, and collect her check (at Her discretion) based on how much she has increased the earnings by making me work, by decreasing my grocery budget. A little more elaborate - she gets a piece of equity, she blackmails to make me work harder, she makes me jealous of her lovers. She humiliates me. She hypnotizes and suggests. Okay, there is some work involved, but better than a day job. Although women often register enthusiasm and confidence in doing this, it has never really worked. I don't really understand why. Thoughts? Comments? Apologies in advance to all...I am feeling very cranky today. Gee, you've got it all planned out, don't you? Not much for the Domina to do except follow your instructions and then take her share of the pie. Thoughts...you are older and say you are willing to relocate, but it sounds like you want a live-out or a roomate situation with extra benefits. You are willing to pay for them to the extent that the Domina has earned the money in the amount of your bigger bottom line. (No pun intended.) Comments...I am thinking that if you did actually find a Lady willing to go along with this program, you wouldn't last very long. Because a lot of what you are laying out here is not that hard. But most of the Dominas I know would not be content with what you are proposing. (As opposed to a girl who is willing to let you move in and boss you around.) And you sound fairly limited in what you want done to you. Nothing here about what you want to do for the Domina other than money. quote: Oh yes, I know I'm a total dweeb and emotional retard for needing and wanting this kind of a Marine sergeant / taskmistress. I know I'm a dick. It doesn't mean I'm not fun to make me cry, to walk on. Are you one of those worthless worms who needs to be made to feel pathetic? Careful...you really are narrowing your possible pool of potentials. Welcome to the boards...I do hope you will read and learn.

MistressFire70 -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/29/2005 1:28:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HersAllHers Thoughts? Comments? Oh yes, I know I'm a total dweeb and emotional retard for needing and wanting this kind of a Marine sergeant / taskmistress. I know I'm a dick. It doesn't mean I'm not fun to make me cry, to walk on. If you're really think you are all these things, what makes you valuable to an owner? Why would I want to own you? I wouldn't want a car that didn't run or a cat with no legs, so why would I want a human who forced himself to feel less than he is? Instead, be proud of yourself. you need motivation...you need to be cuckolded...you need chastity. Needs are objective, unless you're needing to HARM someone (harm is different than hurt). Self acceptance is the first step in learning who you are. Of course, these are my own opinions. There are plenty out there who will be happy to treat you like you're worthless. And, there are Western Unions everywhere. Fire

jamesthehumanrug -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/29/2005 2:16:41 PM)
greetings hers all i dont know .a mistress tried, to show me fantasy is very different ,than reality ,but, then all you have to say is: this is fantasy....,but, your dreams sound creamy, and, adapatable ,but, if half the , M's , knew where,to find such a perfect mate;they'd be ,off ,and, you would'nt see,or hear,of them. it is a pitty ,but,true:some doms have done things like this and,were very ;very good ,at it ,and, just trying their skills; some really good doms have been scolded ,and, doomed, by experience ,with bad-lovers,so - you ,just have ,to say what you want -no one can read your mind- and, say; it's really o.k.

HersAllHers -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/29/2005 3:20:44 PM)
Thank you, Lady Angelika, for the insight and constructive comments. And thank you, James, for the commiseration.

LadyJulieAnn -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/29/2005 7:36:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HersAllHers Can a man be made more productive in his work? For the longest time I have been looking for a Domme who would be interested in putting the stirrups to my flanks (FIGURATIVELY!!) to make me more productive in developing my business - and as her just reward help herself to what I have - make me work harder and then 'cuckold' me, spending my money while she dates another man. I've not found this Woman, who can actually succeed in this. It should be simple, from a minimalist point of view, to ask for a list of things I plan to do (day, week, month, year) in the morning (5 minutes) then check progress later (20 min), and order prolongation of CB3000 or give permission for pleasure, and collect her check (at Her discretion) based on how much she has increased the earnings by making me work, by decreasing my grocery budget. A little more elaborate - she gets a piece of equity, she blackmails to make me work harder, she makes me jealous of her lovers. She humiliates me. She hypnotizes and suggests. Okay, there is some work involved, but better than a day job. Although women often register enthusiasm and confidence in doing this, it has never really worked. I don't really understand why. Thoughts? Comments? Oh yes, I know I'm a total dweeb and emotional retard for needing and wanting this kind of a Marine sergeant / taskmistress. I know I'm a dick. It doesn't mean I'm not fun to make me cry, to walk on. I personally don't like to micromanage anyone, but if I did, it would be on MY terms, not the sub's. The difficulty I see with your "plan" is that you are the one in control. It's not really about a woman controlling you, it appears to be more about how you can control a woman to control you. Is that a bad thing? No- it's what you want. I would just encourage you to re-read your post and see that you already have the script written. Is it really a case of the women failing or is it that you are not able to imagine anything else outside of your "ideal"? Be well, Julie

HersAllHers -> RE: Lady Bosses or They Whip Horses, Don't They? (11/29/2005 8:57:28 PM)
This response is to Lady Julie, but only because she is the nth person to make such a painfully obvious criticism that as written a) I'm topping from the bottom and b) the nature of the situation is a well known challenge of management, how to manage people who are technically more astute than the boss. I am only humming the tune, Ladies. I plead guilty that I am sketching specifics that the Boss will want to draw. Any Woman with an ounce of brains and two ounces of leadership will step in and create her only medley, based on my melody, or else she will throw the whole thing out and make her own song. She'll know when to say "shut up - this is what you'll do". Is it absolutely necessary to throw the same obvious stone over and over and over again? In some cases with anger and derision? As for micromanaging, was the sin to mention checking in to work daily? Or when I discuss timelines (day, week, month, year), I should leave off day and add decade? The point - the question - is whether it can be fulfilling and successful for a Woman to use her domination in work, and how might this be done. NOT if it is NECESSARY and this is the ONLY way to get work done a la insinuationation de l'Akasha : quote: (who runs her own business and has a man working for her, but doesn't need to use his cock to make him get work done) This is intentionally misconstruing what I so humbly set forth for discussion and decimating it - the so-called "straw man" argument. Yes, you're right, it's a bad idea, like the Little Red Hen, I will continue my business on my own. (Stomps out of the henhouse in a huff !!! hehehe)

theRose4U -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/29/2005 8:58:39 PM)
Exactly, Sorry Hers you do come off as one of those lowly worm do me boys. I've managed 50 men at one time and had a small business on the side too. I did all these things on MY TERMS. The way your post comes off there should be a cut out in the background of your little picture that says insert Domme here. Not too attractive for a woman that actually has her act together. Akasha & tammyjo really kind of summed it up. I personally would be more interested in what you have to offer a Domme other than money...I can get that anywhere. Service, dedication, special skills are harder to come by. I'm more interested in how life can be easier rather than having to be a task master to get someone else to reach their potential. Regular life comes with enough to do lists without having to create them with the goal of having your sub get his butt off the couch, take a bath and DO SOMETHING. Just my .02

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/29/2005 10:25:40 PM)
quote: I personally don't like to micromanage anyone, but if I did, it would be on MY terms, not the sub's. The difficulty I see with your "plan" is that you are the one in control. It's not really about a woman controlling you, it appears to be more about how you can control a woman to control you. Is that a bad thing? No- it's what you want. I would just encourage you to re-read your post and see that you already have the script written. Is it really a case of the women failing or is it that you are not able to imagine anything else outside of your "ideal"? Julie Ditto! M

LadyJulieAnn -> RE: Lady Bosses or They Whip Horses, Don't They? (11/30/2005 4:45:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HersAllHers The point - the question - is whether it can be fulfilling and successful for a Woman to use her domination in work, and how might this be done. NOT if it is NECESSARY and this is the ONLY way to get work done a la insinuationation de l'Akasha : I think if you had stopped your posting at "Can a man be made more productive in his work?", I am sure the responses would have been different. What you did in your posting was proceed to make it a personal statement of how you thought it should go, based on your ideas. I think that was where the confusion set in. Be well, Julie

Jasmyn -> RE: Lady Bosses or They Whip Horses, Don't They? (11/30/2005 5:05:46 AM)
Doesn't everyone more or less have their own script though? A fem sub wanting a dom to be this way and that; a fem dom with little or no interest in sissification; a poly sub wanting to be alpha of the group; a fetisher with a need to include his kink; a male dom wanting the 1950s housewife; subs with a laundry list of what they do and don't want, and doms with the same. We all in some way have our own script... Afterall without the fantasy, the mental picture, the savouring of images and ideologies...whatelse entices us to this lifestyle but our own desires? Does it make anyone less submissive, or immediately pegged as submitting on their terms only, when they communicate the framework their desires exist in. Ultimately at the end of the day domination is what he seeks...and the ability to be dominated is there. I just think sometimes we can be a little too harsh on people for voicing what may be their 'script' and labelling them as do-me boys for having one...

HersAllHers -> RE: Lady Bosses or They Whip Horses, Don't They? (11/30/2005 5:56:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jasmyn Doesn't everyone more or less have their own script though? A fem sub wanting a dom to be this way and that; a fem dom with little or no interest in sissification; a poly sub wanting to be alpha of the group; a fetisher with a need to include his kink; a male dom wanting the 1950s housewife; subs with a laundry list of what they do and don't want, and doms with the same. We all in some way have our own script... Afterall without the fantasy, the mental picture, the savouring of images and ideologies...what else entices us to this lifestyle but our own desires? Does it make anyone less submissive, or immediately pegged as submitting on their terms only, when they communicate the framework their desires exist in. Ultimately at the end of the day domination is what he seeks...and the ability to be dominated is there. I just think sometimes we can be a little too harsh on people for voicing what may be their 'script' and labelling them as do-me boys for having one... I melt before this peace and wisdom and obvious strength. Yes, it is a desire to serve with all my bein, that I have - to give EVERYthing, actively. Having admitted at the outset that I need to be focused, led, and corrected, I breathe a sigh of relief when one person can look at me and say, "I see where you are trying to go." Thank You, Mistress Jasmyn.

UtopianRanger -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/30/2005 7:41:17 AM)
quote: Thoughts? Comments? Oh yes, I know I'm a total dweeb and emotional retard for needing and wanting this kind of a Marine sergeant / taskmistress. The real question is : You've come this far to become self-employed, do you really need a taskmistress to make you more productive? Personally, I think not. Anyone who has been and remained successfully self-employed, knows that it's all about them and no one else. You and only you are responsible for your success and productivity. The second you believe you need someone else, it's time to throw in the towel and go work for someone else. Thoughts? Comments? Sure... I think it would save you a ton of money and a lota trouble if you went and saw a professional lady. - The Ranger

Jasmyn -> RE: Lady Bosses or They Whip Horses, Don't They? (11/30/2005 8:12:01 AM)
Your welcome ... seek and ye shall find is my motto.. ;) Take care out there

Jasmyn -> RE: Lady Bosses (11/30/2005 8:31:33 AM)
Agree in principal Ranger, but lol I can see many a business coach or mentor choking on their morning coffee if they read that. Many a self employed person will seek out a business mentor/business coach to assist them in keeping focused on goals of success and productivity. Been self employed can be a lonely life, existing in a vaccum, having some one help you set and maintain goals isn't necessarily a sign one should throw in the towel. Also, the desire to go to work for the benefit of someone else (ie: his Mistress) is not uncommon amongst submissves. Many men desire to be 'put to work' as such, knowing that every minute at work is to somehow better her life, and in return the subs, by virtue of being hers. Add to that, money affords freedom, to have that financial freedom curtailed is a must for a great number of men seeking to submit. Throw in humiliation, cuckolding, his dom's pleasure at his expense... its text book fem dom stuff. In answer to his original question: yes a man can be made to be more productive at his work.

GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Lady Bosses or They Whip Horses, Don't They? (11/30/2005 12:03:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jasmyn Doesn't everyone more or less have their own script though? A fem sub wanting a dom to be this way and that; a fem dom with little or no interest in sissification; a poly sub wanting to be alpha of the group; a fetisher with a need to include his kink; a male dom wanting the 1950s housewife; subs with a laundry list of what they do and don't want, and doms with the same. We all in some way have our own script... Afterall without the fantasy, the mental picture, the savouring of images and ideologies...whatelse entices us to this lifestyle but our own desires? Does it make anyone less submissive, or immediately pegged as submitting on their terms only, when they communicate the framework their desires exist in. Ultimately at the end of the day domination is what he seeks...and the ability to be dominated is there. I just think sometimes we can be a little too harsh on people for voicing what may be their 'script' and labelling them as do-me boys for having one... I don't disagree with you in principle, Jasmyn. In fact, I seldom do, and we often seem to be on the exact same page. Of course the idea is to satisfy the boy while at the same time making it enjoyable for oneself. I don't have a problem with that, and I don't see this as anything hard to do, until I read this... quote: I've not found this Woman, who can actually succeed in this. It should be simple, from a minimalist point of view, to ask for a list of things I plan to do (day, week, month, year) in the morning (5 minutes) then check progress later (20 min), and order prolongation of CB3000 or give permission for pleasure, and collect her check (at Her discretion) based on how much she has increased the earnings by making me work, by decreasing my grocery budget. I become concerned that this doesn't seem so difficult to Me, yet this boy has not been able to find anyone to satisfy this simple fetish. Especially when the financial rewards could be very nice. So I have to wonder how demanding things might become. Am I not doing it well enough? Am I not spending enough time? Is there a lack of understanding in how I am directing the situation but he needs yet more, and more, and more? With the amount of detail the OP felt necessary, and the additional examples, I got the feeling that this boy might not ever be quite satisfied and the Domina might not ever be quite good enough. I can't live like that. In addition, I did not see anything regarding living arrangements or any other services. Maybe they would not be necessary. Maybe it is not necessary to live-in. Shrugs It is hard to make an initial determination with so much in the way of his specific needs in this one area being addressed. Your own tag line says it all. I'm not saying a boy should have to give up any hope of having his needs satisfied. That is not right. That is where interest compatibility comes into play. But I also am not sure that he will accept a Domina's style of Domination. I am not sure his fantasy would mesh with a D/s reality. I got the feeling he wants to orchestrate exactly how he is Dominated in this area. That I can't and won't do. I can achieve the same goal My way, if he is flexible and accepts that. But does he? Will he? Therein lies My problem with this scenario. Perhaps I read way too much into the whole thing.

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