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BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/29/2005 11:31:38 PM)
Where did you read this in my post? quote: vanilla relationships in which case are you saying gals want gifts everyday to keep happy? If thats the case im glad I have met no gal that only loves me for my walle It's a rhetorical question dude, I should have restrained myself before replying to you. My opinion is that a gentleman is considerate of a lady, and pays attention to what she says, and what she likes (yes a lady does the same for her gentleman). What you do in your relationships, is your business.. M

SweetDommes -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/29/2005 11:32:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: imtempting quote: ORIGINAL: EmoDragon but what if she wants to be a pro with some subs and not with others others that she has personal feelings for, for example? Her first post states she expects to be paid for Domming somone. Actually, if you read it, no it doesn't. It states that she told the "sub" in question that she is looking for multiple kinds of subs/slaves - including financial ones. That does not = "she expects to be paid" for anything.

SweetDommes -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/29/2005 11:33:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger M.... I think you may be misinterpreting Imtempting's post. I think what he is saying is : ''Try not to paint with such a broad brush, all of us are not Do-Me types. Have some confidence in us and know that we will do the right thing'' He's telling you that some have become just a little bit too cynical.[8D] - The Ranger We know that not all guys are like that, just like not all Dommes are the same. However, given Imtempting's history of posts, I think that M's interpretation is correct.

UtopianRanger -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/29/2005 11:44:26 PM)
quote: However, given Imtempting's history of posts, I think that M's interpretation is correct. Am I reading this correctly? Are you somehow trying to say that Imtempting is a little cynical in his own right, and even a tad bit rebellious? Never ever! I don't know what's come over you ladies, as thoughts like that have never even entered my mind ;} - The Ranger

imtempting -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/29/2005 11:45:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetDommes We know that not all guys are like that, just like not all Dommes are the same. However, given Imtempting's history of posts, I think that M's interpretation is correct. Actually he is correct. I did mean it how he said it. M's response about Ladies wanting gifts to be happy. I thought that was actually a sexist and steriotypical response. As for my past posts.Clarify what you mean...

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/29/2005 11:48:03 PM)
quote: Am I reading this correctly? Are you somehow trying to say that Imtempting is a little cynical in his own right, and even a tad bit rebellious? Never ever! I don't know what's come over you ladies, as thoughts like that have never even entered my mind ;} [sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif] Exactly! So why were you trying to project that onto the dominas? M

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 12:00:56 AM)
quote: M's response about Ladies wanting gifts to be happy. I thought that was actually a sexist and steriotypical response. I am sexist, but where did you read in my post that women want gifts to be happy? M

UtopianRanger -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 12:02:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig quote: Am I reading this correctly? Are you somehow trying to say that Imtempting is a little cynical in his own right, and even a tad bit rebellious? Never ever! I don't know what's come over you ladies, as thoughts like that have never even entered my mind ;} [sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif] Exactly! So why were you trying to project that onto the dominas? M Because, I think to some exent he is correct. But that doesn't stop him from being a hypocrite. Being cynical leads us down the path of self-preservation, however, that same path can also lead us to unfullfilledness. - The Ranger

Driver1961 -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 12:17:17 AM)
Enters, dips lid, smiles broadly to all.................. Well thankyou sub4hire,wildfleurs, slavejali, and any applicable others I may have missed in reading this thread................ To LadySonelle, like really M'am. What is your problem?! Sure you and others vent but just ask yourselves 'What am I offering?" If I put up a profile asking for interested subs to contact me, they open the door to my profile, look around, check to see if they are comfortable, then may speak(email) me to enquire about my knowledge of my product and 'we' may decide to do business/play. Now I ask you if that is any different to entering a shop looking for a purchase that you dont have much knowledge of? You ladies are infact (like this description or not) are operating a business. You have gawkers, timewasters, and people who like what they see/hear then may make a purchase. If you offer freebies as 'conditioning' for further business that is your perogative and also your peril. Your complaints are essentially of failing to understand the nature of your own business and failing to 'trim the problems' I walk into any business, look, enquire, obtain info then for various reasons may leave- no different than customers behaved in my shops. "It's the same ole shit man, don't you get it man (M'am)?....... The world goes around" The great JANIS J. A cheeky smile to all, and hugs to those willing.............. Departs.

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 12:17:31 AM)
quote: I think to some exent he is correct. But that doesn't stop him from being a hypocrite. Being cynical leads us down the path of self-preservation, however, that To some extent all people suck, and have sinned... So all of us need to be able to forgive others and let go of negative history, because we all hope to be forgiven, and accepted in the end. I don't go the cynical route because survival is not that important to me if the people I love/want to love find me an impossible jerk to live with/love. M

imtempting -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 12:31:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig Would you like her to drop you because you're an insensitive cheapskate before or after she tells you that is the reason? Insensitive cheap skate because I said classy gals would not ask for guys to buy them gifts. Thats where I read gals wanting gifts to be happy and as being sexist as I thought women have spent decades to get equal rights and not have guys be expected to pay for everything. quote: That is what it comes down to! She either asks and is called a money grubbing ho, or she doesn't and drops you because she becomes so resentful of feeling unapreciated and used. M So money is the only way she will feel happy and appreciated. Thats how it reads...

UtopianRanger -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 12:43:58 AM)
quote: I don't go the cynical route because survival is not that important to me if the people I love/want to love find me an impossible jerk to live with/love. M Myself included. I've always said that one needs to better develop their periphery and avoid overly cynical people. - The Ranger

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 12:52:51 AM)
quote: Insensitive cheap skate because I said classy gals would not ask for guys to buy them gifts. I think a guy who can afford but never buys his girfriend (or the woman he regularly plays with) a present is an insensitive cheapskate. quote: Thats where I read gals wanting gifts to be happy and as being sexist as I thought women have spent decades to get equal rights and not have guys be expected to pay for everything Wanting to be treated as a valued human being does not mean (to me) being the same as a man. I'm a feminist to the extent that I get to live my life on my terms, and want to get paid no less than male counterparts with similar education and experience (of course what I want and what I get...). However, that has never in my life/mind translated to my wanting to be a man or my not wanting my man to be a man and treat me like a lady. quote: Thats where I read gals wanting gifts to be happy and as being sexist as I thought women have spent decades to get equal rights and not have guys be expected to pay for everything You misunderstood me. Gifts don't make anyone happy. Being with a generous, open minded, and thoughtful/considerate partner can make a significant amount of difference on one's happiness continuum (IMO). Money has never been nor will ever be the only way women feel apreciated. Apreciative words, being available when she needs you, making her tea when she's sick, rubbing her feet when she's tired, calling her just to say you thought of her, cooking her dinner, etc.... There are a million and one ways to be generous that require more thought, and consideration with limited or no money than with money as a matter of fact. M

imtempting -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 1:24:42 AM)
Maybe next time you will write with a bit more clairty as what you wrote was saying all guys were cheap skates.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 5:31:15 AM)
Please note, that I am NOT speaking as a pro dominant here.... Well, Imtempting, I do remember that you have harped on the theme of women only wanting gifts in the past....I don't know if that's a factor of your age, or your experience, but IMO you have made it clear that your wallet is off limits for everything. I agree fully with M, that gifts do not have to equal money. But.... Do I expect something financial from the man I am with? You bet. I expect that HE will be buying dinner when we go out. HE will be paying for my iced tea at the club---and the cover charge, too! If we're out shopping, and I see that he is always buying things for himself, and never buys anything for me---I will notice. If he says that he is broke, but somehow always has the latest and greatest---I will notice. Will I say that he is cheap? Possibly. Will I say that he is SELFISH? Absolutely. This goes back to the "courting" issue. I have had some men bring me flowers, and others that didn't even buy me a coffee---and their personal income didn't enter into the picture! Is there a correlation between their success with me/other dommes and their willingness to cough up two bucks for a Starbucks cocoa? Yes, there is! F

LordODiscipline -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 5:42:13 AM)
Darling, I read your post. ~J

imtempting -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 5:57:50 AM)
Yes but to make a discussion we need oposing views. I just seem to have an opposing view on alot of matters. My wallet is not off limits, I just refuse to have to buy gifts or Tributes as people use in the lifestyle or pay them money to play. Being in a relationship and playing games is two different matters.

orfunboi -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 6:18:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: imtempting Yes but to make a discussion we need oposing views. I just seem to have an opposing view on alot of matters. My wallet is not off limits, I just refuse to have to buy gifts or Tributes as people use in the lifestyle or pay them money to play. Being in a relationship and playing games is two different matters. Every relationship i have ever been in with a women, i bought her gifts. In fact i often buy gifts for women i am not in a relationship with, because i know women like to get stuff. Basic Women 101 to me. They like to get stuff, they like to think you have thought about them and they like to be wined and dined. It doesn't have to be expensive, just something that says "hey, i was walking through the store and saw that and thought about YOU today" or "i saw this rock in the park and it was shaped like a heart and it made me think of YOU" and yes i have brought home a rock and she loved it. If i ever went to a pro domme, i would expect to be charged, just like if i went to the barber shop for a hair cut, i would expect to be charged. If i dated a pro domme, i would expect to give her presents, just like if i dated a hair dresser, i would expect to give her presents. Women are women and you will never change that....but when they look up and smile at you, you know they are worth the effort.

imtempting -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 6:21:33 AM)
Says to everyone I know all this about relationships.

orfunboi -> RE: Why Does Money Make a Lifestyle Domme "Not Real"? (11/30/2005 6:35:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: imtempting Says to everyone I know all this about relationships. Huh?

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