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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

This is all part of the same fruitless war.

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ORIGINAL: hoodie

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

This is all part of the same fruitless war.

Which war is that?  The war declared on the West by Al-Qaeda operatives (remember it was off the coast of Yemen in 2000 that the U.S.S Cole had that huge hole blasted in it) or the war after 9/11?

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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

MC, you seem to be such a hater of the US.  While there is much about this country I want to see changed, there is also a great deal right about it.  I wonder why it is that you never seem to point out anything positive about the US .. or your own country of origin for that matter. 
Truth be told, this war has nothing to do with what you spoke of.  We're fighting a bunch of people who are still trying to fight the damned crusades.  They want to punish people for something that none of us did or were alive to do.  It truthfully has nothing to do with British policy or American policies.  Its just because we exist. 

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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

MC, you seem to be such a hater of the US.  While there is much about this country I want to see changed, there is also a great deal right about it.  I wonder why it is that you never seem to point out anything positive about the US .. or your own country of origin for that matter. 
Truth be told, this war has nothing to do with what you spoke of.  We're fighting a bunch of people who are still trying to fight the damned crusades.  They want to punish people for something that none of us did or were alive to do.  It truthfully has nothing to do with British policy or American policies.  Its just because we exist. 

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I don't know if you have a typical American view but America has been interfering in the middle east since 1953 when they with the British helped overthrow  a democratic Iranian government. The US has backed middle east dictatorships who have cruelly subjugated their own people, all for the access to someone elses oil. The idea that this war started with an unprovoked attack on the US is ludicrous.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Our supermodels bare their tits and in Bali people gyrate too wildly in nightclubs, that's all the reason al-Qaeda needs to kill millions.

Absolutely nothing more.

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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I don't know if you have a typical American view but America has been interfering in the middle east since 1953 when they with the British helped overthrow  a democratic Iranian government. The US has backed middle east dictatorships who have cruelly subjugated their own people, all for the access to someone elses oil. The idea that this war started with an unprovoked attack on the US is ludicrous.

We sure did help to overthrow the Iranian government in 1953.  I don't see what that has to do with Al Qaida.  They despise Shiites as much as they despise the West.  I don't know why you seem to have this view that they would all be joining hands and living in peace if it wasn't for us evil Westerners. 

I guess we should just allow the extremists to manipulate politics there instead of us.  It would be great to constantly be under the threat of having our energy supplies shut off at the whim of the crazies, wouldn't it?

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There are enough Americans on these boards that have said they would take up arms against anyone that tried to interfer in their country. Why should you think other peoples would think differently?

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

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There are enough Americans on these boards that have said they would take up arms against anyone that tried to interfer in their country. Why should you think other peoples would think differently?

Outsiders interfere with our country all the time.  Lobbyists from every country imaginable fill the suburbs around Washington.  Our bonds are held largely by the Chinese and Arabs.  We have had foreign corporations operating on our soil for 100 years.  I can think of two manufacturing plants in my own town that are owned by foreign corporations.  I know a lot of people aren't fond of this, but we aren't crashing planes into building overseas or driving truck bombs into foreign embassies here.  Our crazies make a lot of noise, but they don't have any real influence. 

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

We sure did help to overthrow the Iranian government in 1953.  I don't see what that has to do with Al Qaida.  They despise Shiites as much as they despise the West.  I don't know why you seem to have this view that they would all be joining hands and living in peace if it wasn't for us evil Westerners. 

I guess we should just allow the extremists to manipulate politics there instead of us.  It would be great to constantly be under the threat of having our energy supplies shut off at the whim of the crazies, wouldn't it?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Imagine if the West had left the Islamic extremists alone all along.

Never formed a crusade, never sent a navy to defeat the Barbary pirates...

Do you think meatcleaver would today be living in meatcleaver heaven?

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Sanity, with each post you just reinforce the fact that you know nothing about the history of the middle east.