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MojoRisin -> How Common? (11/30/2005 12:01:12 PM)
Not everyone who lives this lifestyle is open about it. What percentage of the world population lives with Masters/slaves in relationships? How common is it to have a vanilla relationship where one is a Dom and one is a sub, and they dont have labels or scenes, it just plays out that way? Most relationships?

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: How Common? (11/30/2005 12:03:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MojoRisin Not everyone who lives this lifestyle is open about it. What percentage of the world population lives with Masters/slaves in relationships? I assume we're talking consensual...I'll go with 2%, and that's being generous. quote: How common is it to have a vanilla relationship where one is a Dom and one is a sub, and they dont have labels or scenes, it just plays out that way? Most relationships? I'd say 20%- these are intimate personal relationships that are BASED ON the people involved with them having a day to day authority dynamic. All relationships have an energy dynamic. All relationships have areas where one person is dominant and other areas where the other person is dominant. I don't consider that D/s.

Phoenxx -> RE: How Common? (11/30/2005 12:18:00 PM)
It is hard to say, as many people have to hide what their lifestyle is. As the gay community had to hide in the 70’s right now the BDSM community has to be careful. Two percent sounds about right... Tony

MasterRobert1 -> RE: How Common? (11/30/2005 12:39:09 PM)
I'd say two percent is the upper range. And, as LuckyAlbatross said, that's being generous.

TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: How Common? (11/30/2005 12:42:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross I'd say 20%- these are intimate personal relationships that are BASED ON the people involved with them having a day to day authority dynamic. I would say that it is much higher then that in Muslim world...probably most of the third world as well. Oh yeah, and in Utah. smile Taggard

sub4hire -> RE: How Common? (11/30/2005 12:43:39 PM)
quote: How common is it to have a vanilla relationship where one is a Dom and one is a sub, and they dont have labels or scenes, it just plays out that way? Most relationships? What is the divorce rate at today? Whatever is left is in a D/s relationship whether they know it or not. That was the question after all. Bondage is pretty mainstream as well anymore. Most sex shops have some form of toys. I don't know the current statistics but most couples have tried bondage in the bedroom. Now, whether or not they continue to do so I have no idea of. I'd say 40 to 50% are in a D/s relationship. Most just are not aware.

candystripper -> RE: How Common? (11/30/2005 1:15:48 PM)
I would use dogpile.com to find a current generation of sexology research, following the Kinsey Report. candystripper

AbstractSavant -> RE: How Common? (11/30/2005 1:43:34 PM)
To me, I don't care how common it is. I enjoy it and that is all that matters. This is with every aspect of my life. But alas, I wish someone had the balls to do what Kinsey did and do it in this modern age so we can find a somewhat valid representation of modern sex. I think the undertaking could be even to massive with today's technology.

RiotGirl -> RE: How Common? (11/30/2005 3:53:24 PM)
quote: I would say that it is much higher then that in Muslim world...probably most of the third world as well. Oh yeah, and in Utah. smile Taggard lol i completely agree. Definetly have that power dynamic over there. quote: I would say that it is much higher then that in Muslim world...probably most of the third world as well. Oh yeah, and in Utah. smile Taggard

jamesthehumanrug -> RE: How Common? (11/30/2005 9:03:07 PM)
mojo rizen greetings everyone has the potential sometimes conscious control(you hope so) sometimes its all unconscious but, it is all a matter ,of degree esp. how it is expressed and it is usually dependant on the reward ,[8D]or encouragement of the persons evironment ;negative influence has an impact on the self esteem,and s and m expressions,of a person,with another, if youre a vanilla -dom,or s and m dom : it's all relative,to your partner; but, s and m is in everyone and, within everyones' capabilities. ie do we have more doms in vanilla who are happy ,cause they are vanilla or more doms ,in s and m who are happy cuz theyre dom either way theres a measure of s and m in vanilla and kink.preferences are sometimes not known to the person if this cant ans your post then NEVERMIND;NO COMMENT I JUST hope if i meet a dom in vanilla or kink theyre conscious

Belladonna82 -> RE: How Common? (11/30/2005 10:10:16 PM)
Well this acctualy does happen. When Master and i first met ( in the very begining ) i did not know Master was a Master...i just thought him to be a normal demanding male and he did not know i was submissive. After talking awhile and getting to know one anouther we began a relationship...and just as we began our true natures shined and we told the other of our D/s lifestyle wants.So we began wanting a relationship with the other before either flat out said a word.... P.S We dont do scenes...we live it! bella

Focus50 -> RE: How Common? (12/1/2005 1:39:18 AM)
I have no idea of M/s relationships but I happen to think that the vast majority of vanilla relationships are anything but equal. Almost all that I know has one partner who generally defers to the other when decisions or actions are required - I'd guess mostly the woman has final say. Of course there's no formally structured or agreed D/s dynamic - it's just how it seems to function.... Focus.

LadiesBladewing -> RE: How Common? (12/1/2005 6:27:04 AM)
...And don't forget among the Hasidic Jewish population (including most of Israel), and among the Jehovah's Witnesses and many of the fundamentalist Christian sects. These are others that make a -point- of laying down rules of hierarchy, clearly establishing a power dynamic in the household that defines the roles of men, women, and the unmentionables as well. Also consider -cultural- preferences, including those within the Latin cultures, where there is still a clear hierarchy in the home, whether or not the women in the household have accepted some "westernization", and in Oriental cultures -- from personal experience, a powerful domestic hierarchy appears in Japanese, Chinese, and Tibetan cultures... I would hazard that "unspoken" D/s relationships are ranging well above the 20% mark, if the entire world is taken into consideration. Lady Zephyr quote: ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross I'd say 20%- these are intimate personal relationships that are BASED ON the people involved with them having a day to day authority dynamic. I would say that it is much higher then that in Muslim world...probably most of the third world as well. Oh yeah, and in Utah. smile Taggard

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: How Common? (12/1/2005 6:39:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadiesBladewing ...And don't forget among the Hasidic Jewish population (including most of Israel), and among the Jehovah's Witnesses and many of the fundamentalist Christian sects. These are others that make a -point- of laying down rules of hierarchy, clearly establishing a power dynamic in the household that defines the roles of men, women, and the unmentionables as well. Also consider -cultural- preferences, including those within the Latin cultures, where there is still a clear hierarchy in the home, whether or not the women in the household have accepted some "westernization", and in Oriental cultures -- from personal experience, a powerful domestic hierarchy appears in Japanese, Chinese, and Tibetan cultures... I would hazard that "unspoken" D/s relationships are ranging well above the 20% mark, if the entire world is taken into consideration. Lady Zephyr I don't consider doing something because it's a cultural norm as the same as being in a D/s personal relationship.

LadiesBladewing -> RE: How Common? (12/1/2005 8:36:23 AM)
I would disagree with you here, LuckyAlbatross. You cannot dismiss dominance and submission as a cultural aspect, if you accept the foundation of Greek, Roman, Turkish, Moorish, Christian, and other cultural forms of enslavement on which current D/s relationships are often based. Therefore, you cannot discount cultural D/s, in cultures where it is an inherent part of the way of life, or you discount the foundation on which non-cultural D/s is often based. That is like saying that because it exists in the real world, it isn't "real" D/s. Lady Zephyr

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