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bipolarber -> The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/18/2008 9:09:14 PM)
In a CBS/NYT poll of women voters, a surprising result was found: It seems that Sarah Palin's addition to the McCain ticket has actually become a detriment to his numbers with "likely women voters." Over the last few days, since Palin has been giving interviews, and the populace has had a chance to gain some information on the Governor of Alaska, there has been a 21 point shift.... away from McCain... and toward Obama by that demographic. Before the conventions, McCain was actually ahead of Obama in appeal to female voters.... now he lags behind by several points. It seems that, although they had a good bounce immediately after the election, that "bright, shiny distraction" is losing it's lustre... and Sarah is actually dragging McCain down.

bestbabync -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/18/2008 10:07:51 PM)
oh my[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m28.gif[/image]

TheHeretic -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/18/2008 10:16:38 PM)
Bipo, this roller-coaster can't be good for your blood pressure. The polls are...drum roll please... right back where we were before the conventions. Slight edge to the Dems, who should be out front by 17+. I understand the addiction. Try to follow the weekly and graph results, maybe?

slvemike4u -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/18/2008 10:32:07 PM)
So the trend doesn't alarm you Heretic?

bestbabync -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/18/2008 10:34:30 PM)
damn, i am alarmed![image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m20.gif[/image]

TheHeretic -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/18/2008 10:42:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u So the trend doesn't alarm you Heretic? No more than the suspense of whether they'll get off the island keeps me pinned to my seat if I happen to vegetate in front of an episode of Gilligan's Island.

Vendaval -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/18/2008 10:45:20 PM)
bipolarbear, Remember how many times Senator Clinton has been slammed on these Forums as being too polarizing? Or the bashing that Mrs. Obama has taken from several people? Now the same polarization is obvious with the current GOP VP nominee. Senator McCain could have made a more moderate and safer choice in a Republican woman with Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison. From a Conservative Web-site - "Sen. Hutchison has proven she can handle this challenge. In 2000, she captured the most votes in Texas history, tallying more than 4 million ballots. Hutchison knows how to win even when the Democrats are surging. After all, she was the first-ever Republican woman elected to the state legislature and the first female elected to the U.S. Senate from Texas. If Hillary Clinton’s bid fails, Hutchison will be ideally positioned to gain votes from voters wanting symbolic gains for women. As a bonus, Hutchison would burnish John McCain’s conservative credentials in Texas and elsewhere. The American Conservative Union confers a lifetime rating of 90.4 percent on the Dallas senator, higher than a conservative stalwart like Mitch McConnell (89.7 percent) or McCain himself (82.3 percent). The National Rifle Association awards Hutchison its highest rating. The pro-business U.S. Chamber of Commerce assigns the Texan a rating of 92 percent. And Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform gives her a 95 percent rating. In the school of conservative politics, Kay Bailey Hutchison is the super-smart girl who sits in the first row, an all-A’s student whom John McCain should want in his study group." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1973145/posts

slvemike4u -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/18/2008 10:53:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u So the trend doesn't alarm you Heretic? No more than the suspense of whether they'll get off the island keeps me pinned to my seat if I happen to vegetate in front of an episode of Gilligan's Island. Actually they do eventually get off the island....didn't you see the movie?

TheHeretic -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/18/2008 11:02:37 PM)
But Palin spurred the Christian base. McCain had to lock them down. Hutchison is old. She's also from Texas, and keeping the Bush stank off the ticket is critical. I want to see where we are in a week-10 days, and what the next move from McCain is. He still has a lot to work with in his pick.

Vendaval -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/18/2008 11:06:59 PM)
You think that just being from Texas would bring about comparisons to Bush? That is a different take on the matter.

TheHeretic -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/18/2008 11:21:41 PM)
Too easy and cheap a shot to pass up, Ven. It would stick, too. What percentage of the time has she voted with the President? Breaking news on the economy and banks is going to set the McCain campaign up to put a spotlight on Palin's very admirable fight agianst corruption in the Alaskan oil and gas industry. People went to prison, and Johnny has only teased us with that story so far.

caitlyn -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/19/2008 4:47:06 AM)
My understanding is that KBH had no interest.

bipolarber -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/19/2008 6:33:02 AM)
The point is, (and I do have one) that this "sudden swing of Hillary voters" toward Palin (or anything female) is pretty much just republican fart gas.

kittinSol -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/19/2008 6:37:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Hutchison is old. Why is that a bad thing [sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif] again? Is it that she's not photogenic enough, or is it because she's more likely to cark it? I thought old people were great, because of all the accumulated experience?

hoodie -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/19/2008 7:52:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bipolarber The point is, (and I do have one) that this "sudden swing of Hillary voters" toward Palin (or anything female) is pretty much just republican fart gas. And where has alot of that "gas" come from? The pundits on the idiot box in everyone's living room in America. I don't buy it for a second. It was to shore up the voting from the FAR right.

LaTigresse -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/19/2008 7:55:20 AM)
Yaaa, last I check she was still a few years younger than Mr Experience McCain.

popeye1250 -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/19/2008 9:13:49 AM)
Bipolar, you keep repeating that to yourself. Sleep well! "But Auntie Em, America WILL elect a global socialist Leftist!" "They MUST! They MUST!"

kittinSol -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/19/2008 9:17:20 AM)
Foreign aid! Foreign aid!

bipolarber -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/19/2008 9:33:26 AM)
Hey, Pop, I didn't make up the poll... hate the game, not the player.

Thadius -> RE: The "Palin Effect" a myth? (9/19/2008 9:37:15 AM)
quote: In a CBS/NYT poll of women voters, a surprising result was found: It seems that Sarah Palin's addition to the McCain ticket has actually become a detriment to his numbers with "likely women voters." Over the last few days, since Palin has been giving interviews, and the populace has had a chance to gain some information on the Governor of Alaska, there has been a 21 point shift.... away from McCain... and toward Obama by that demographic. Before the conventions, McCain was actually ahead of Obama in appeal to female voters.... now he lags behind by several points. We are talking about the latest CBS-NY Times poll, right? http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/Sep08b-Elec.pdf page 3 for the breakdown on gender. The one that shows a 12 point gain in support for Obama amongst women? He is now at 54% compared to 42% Sep 8. Or did I miss somethin?

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